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Look, I'm a humble guy, er, more correctly, I'm trying to learn how to become humble. many here have HUGE egos... which makes things harder for me. So, I apologize to you and everyone here. Beyond that, I think many get caught up in minutia... people think that if we apply "free will" to the...

Do you debate God over what's in Scripture... oh, never mind, I'm bowing out. Thank you for responding though!

Hi Magenta... I didn't mean to draw anyone's ire over this. I'm not as smart as others here, so I humbly apologize if my thoughts offend. I would have thought that if I had the ability to make choices, it implied that I had, at least a measure of free-will. It might not bring about my freedom...

Thank you, Cameron! I have long believed that the indwelling of the Holy Spirit was the gift and seal to those who were Saved, after Salvation. This idea that the Spirit must indwell the unsaved in order to regenerate us in order that we might even begin to seek and believe and then call out...

Thank you, Roger for your response!

Hi…. Am I understanding you correctly? So you believe that free will is not taught in the Bible? Me? I say that both election and free-will are taught in the Bible. I agree. I don't see freewill taught or spoken on as a subject, in and of itself... but it's clearly implied through...

So, you believe that the Holy Spirit must be indwelling a person even before we are drawn to reading the Word, understanding enough to believe and crying out for Salvation? Interesting.

Just a question Roger... Is it your belief that the Holy Spirit has to indwell a person in order for Him to be able to influence a person?

I was trying to be funny... but let's let it go and let the thread resume. :)

Hey, to be fair... you didn't qualify that you were talking about spiritual hearing...

Sorry then... I didn't mean to interrupt.

Thank you, Roger... so, just to be clear, you believe that the Gospel message includes much more than "Christ and Him crucified", and of course the need for repentance and to be baptized?

Most people are born with it... others buy it from an audiologist.

Forgive me if I misunderstand this line of questions... I do like what you're asking. Perhaps there's a difference in what people believe "the Gospel" is? It seems that some here believe that it contains many nuances of particular doctrines that need to be fully understood...

A man is driving down the road with a truck full of penguins. A police officer pulls him over and says, “You can’t drive around with all those penguins in your truck! Take them to the zoo!” The man agrees and drives off. The next day, the same officer sees the man driving down the road with the...

A man walks into a library and asks for a book on turtles. The librarian asks, “Hardback?” The man replies, “Yeah, with a little head and legs.”

I'm not sure that I could agree with that idea. There too many places in scripture that say we must believe in order to be saved... in that order, which excludes the idea that we could be saved prior to believing. I'm sorry, it's just not there in scripture.

It seems to me that Scriptures say both sides are true... some Scripture talks about election and predestination, God calling and choosing; other Scripture talks about us needing to believe, accept, and receive. It might seem paradoxical, but both aspects are there, equally, in Scripture.

Geez, what a snooze-fest that is!

That makes sense to me, since there is no "child" at conception. I'm glad that we found something to agree on.