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The Gospel, Is simply the "GOOD NEWS" of JESUS paying our debt as opposed to a system of LAWS, ORDINANCES, etc....by HIS ultimate sacrifice and payment in full..at the cross..... I trust what your thread implies, is that what and old church I attended used to say " A GOSPEL THAT HASN'T CHANGED...

obedience to WHAT?

NAILED IT!!!!!

My point is this, all mankind are spiritually dead, dead men can't act, thus an outside force must resurrect them. that is the irresistible GRACE OF GODS SOVEREIGN ELECTION...im not a calvinist, but I do believe in election as the bible clearly teaches......

LET ME ASK A QUESTION? AFTER THE FALL IN THE GARDEN WHAT PERCENTAGE OF MANKIND WOULD BE GUILTY OF SIN DESERVING DEATH (CONDEMNATION)? IS IT FAIR OF GOD TO CHARGE ALL MANKIND AFTER ADAM GUILTY OF HIS SIN? THE BATTLE RAGES TIL THE LION ROARS! Clarence

also in the original language the word "IF" has several meanings known as conditions, one of those carries the same as "SINCE" I suspect though, haven't checked this is one of those passages where multiple declensions are being used.

I think you may have misunderstood my post... I am well aware of how true salvation works....been saved since 1994. read and study my bible daily!! but great post anyway!!!

It seems to me what you are referring to is known as CHEAP GRACE, say a special prayer and your in forever no matter what... thats nonsense!! at a church I attended there was a saying that said, "A FAITH THAT HASN'T CHANGED YOU, HASN'T SAVED YOU!!!"

I pray for President Trump and our leaders every day..and have for many years...

100% CHRISTIAN

“And HE (CHRIST) will make a firm covenant with the many for one week, but in the middle of the week HE (CHRIST) will put a stop to sacrifice and grain offering..." WHAT HAPPENED IN THE TEMPLE WHILE JESUS WAS ON THE CROSS?

the HE IN DANIEL 9 is JESUS

NO IT CANT AND WON'T HAPPEN

false prophet

HOGWASH

there are NO references to an angel REFERRED TO AS SHE anywhere in scripture... there is a reference in one of the apocraphal books, and an obscure passage somewhere in O.T that some claim is a female angel but no real clear passages. THE BATTLE RAGES TIL THE LION ROARS!!! Clarence

Hello, It is my Belief that the RESTRAINER IS MICHAEL the ARCANGEL..

NOT ME

HOGWASH