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    Meaning Baptism of the Holy Spirit

    Dear Under Whose Wings You obviously don't speak with other tongues ... which speaks to the fact ... neither have you been BAPTIZED with the HOLY SPIRIT ! Your doctrine is typical of a "limited" CENSATIONIST ! Misconstruing scripture, in order to support your FALSE teaching and your obvious...
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    The Corinthians were speaking in languages that they didn't understand themselves? Yes exactly ! They did not understand the other tongues they spoke ... on certain occasions ... as the scripture implies. Clearly, this was reason Paul (God) reprimanded them on the proper use of the gift. No...
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    The above is not an impossible thing for God to do, but it doesn't make sense when we consider Paul's instructions to the Corinthians. Clearly, some of the Corinthians spoke with OTHER TONGUES ( 1 Cor. 12:10 ) = LANGUAGES THEY DID NOT UNDERSTAND ... otherwise, Paul would not have had to...
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    INTERESTING response. So you don't speak in tongues ... which Acts 2 describes as the ONLY proof the 3000 Jews COULD HAVE SEEN ... that the Joel promise ... Spirit poured out ( upon ) all flesh had happened ! Which is same proof seen in Acts 10 and Acts 19. It is the same today. TOO BAD...
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    I hope what I said ... is NOT my view ... but what God ( scripture ) says ... is the purpose .. who can receive ... how to RECEIVE ... etc. Do you speak in tongues. I gave my testimony in earlier thread ... did you see it ?
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    OK. A logical response .. is pray ... Dear God, protect me from false doctrines ... I cover myself in the Blood of Jesus ... however ... if tongues are for today ... you want me to have this gift ... I want what you want for me ... I open myself to your will in this matter ... asking you give...
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    What's the PURPOSE of tongues ? Paul ( God ) describes some of this Purpose in 1st Cor. 14. THEE IS SO MUCH TO UNPACK in Corinthians, BUT lets start breaking it down some of it. 1. Since Paul ( God ) takes a whole chapter to instruct the Corinthians ( who obviously have and is...
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    Hi Vindicator . Yes I'd like the name. So ... you are Born Again ... then do you believe you have also been BAPTIZED in/with the Holy Spirit, with the following/accompanying gift of other tongues ??? I happened to me in stages. Turned to God on my death bed 1980 ... asked if God was there...
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    1. WOW ... Not a bad argument ... except ... what did the 3000 Jews SEE ? 2. The 3000 were not in the upper room ... so they DID NOT ... see ... the Holy Spirit come UPON the heads of the 120 ... like TONGUES OF FIRE ... or FILL them ( as your correctly say ) . What did they see ??? 3. We...
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    Dear NEHEMIAH 6 Please explain, what you think happened to the 10 disciples on the evening of the Resurrection [ 12 less Judas who died and Thomas who wasn't there ] . Jesus walked into the room ... where the 10 were hiding in fear of the Jews. John 20: 19 - 22 says: vs 19 Then the...
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    WOW NEHEMIAH 6, DISHONEST ? ... maybe not best or correct word I could have used ... I think you are sincere ... but sincerely WRONG. You cannot mix together ... Luke 3.16 with 3.17. They are talking about TWO DIFFERENT matters. You know chapters and verse numbers were inserted by...
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    Me too ... not paid member yet ... and debating. I feel Nehemiah 6 is a "sincere" person ... but his unbiblical aversion to the REAL tongues ... causes him to mix up scripture references ... blinds his eyes ... from seeing ... that what born again Christians need ... is the BAPTISM OF HOLY...
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    Meaning Baptism of the Holy Spirit

    YES ... I totally agree with Vindicator ... Nehemiah 6 ... is unnaturally mixing up Luke 3.16 with Luke 3.17. In Luke 3.16 ... John says the BELIEVERS ... will be ... baptized ... with FIRE. That cannot mean hell fire as Nehemiah 6 is trying to say. As you [ Vindicator ] ... correctly say...
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    Meaning Baptism of the Holy Spirit

    OK Vindicator. I think you agree with me ... Luke 3.16 John says Jesus will Baptize the believers with HS AND fire ... and this truth is evidenced/fulfilled in Acts 2.3 " And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them. "
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    Sorry I'm new to this forum and still having trouble navigating. I cannot see what you are referring to. " It means your mind is closed, Lol. " What is my mind closed about ?
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    Meaning Baptism of the Holy Spirit

    Nehemiah 6. Please ... Luke 3.16 ... John says ... Jesus is going to BAPTIZE believes with HS and FIRE. Do you say that means HELL fire ? No, the proof is ACTS 2.3 " cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them [ ALL 120 ]" Clearly, Luke 3.17 HAS TO BE talking about...
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    Meaning Baptism of the Holy Spirit

    ANSWER TO YOU ! YOU use MATTHEW 3.10 -12 ... to wrongly INFER THAT ... LUKE 3.16 ... MEANS HELL FIRE. Wow that's inventive and dishonest ! Read Luke 3.16 John answered, saying unto them all, I indeed baptize you with water; but one mightier than I cometh, the latchet of whose shoes I...
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    Meaning Baptism of the Holy Spirit

    Balance of thoughts to : Nehemiah6 WHY? When the Jews from all nations ... saw and heard the 120 ... they said to Peter ... What does this mean ( = tongues and speaking wonderful works of God ) ??? Because the JEWS were NOT in the Upper Room to see HS FALL UPON the 120 ... the question...