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    Audio Bible vs. Reading the Bible

    I think it depends on the person and how they learn best - I take information in better via audio than in writing. I have this one…
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    The problem of the statement of “never saved to begin with”

    I certainly thought along those lines for a time. More recently, I have been surprised that despite the claims of critical text advocates, it appears that the text of the Bible has been preserved more faithfully than is popularly believed..
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    The problem of the statement of “never saved to begin with”

    1 Corinthians 3 sets out the big picture: 9For we are God’s fellow workers; you are God’s field, you are God’s building. 10According to the grace of God which was given to me, as a wise master builder I have laid the foundation, and another builds on it. But let each one take heed how he...
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    The problem of the statement of “never saved to begin with”

    You raise an interesting question - the knowability of what we are terming “black box” doctrines. Certainly some black boxes can be safely opened and understood by suitably qualified engineers. Others are intended to be for the manufacturer only. I still attend both a Methodist aligned and a...
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    The problem of the statement of “never saved to begin with”

    I found this metaphor helpful as well… You may be familiar with fractals and the Mandelbrot set. It deals with numbers on the simple AND the complex plane. Together they form a mathematical pattern of infinite depth: In order to arrive at these patterns, math in all planes is required, most...
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    The problem of the statement of “never saved to begin with”

    In philosophy, binary logic indicates the “law of the excluded middle”…. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_excluded_middle The assumption is that Calvinism and Arminianism represent two logical poles, and that either one is true or the other is. The two historic positions are not the only...
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    The problem of the statement of “never saved to begin with”

    Have you ever knowingly entered a sinful route after being saved? Have you subsequently repented and been restored?
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    The problem of the statement of “never saved to begin with”

    I have spent time in the Methodist church as well as the CofE before becoming “non-denominational”. I have heard the Arminian interpretation for a long time and it seems to me that it ignores the completed work of Jesus and the sealing of the Holy Spirit. The hard Calvinist perspective seems...
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    The problem of the statement of “never saved to begin with”

    I find it interesting that the context of Hebrews is of shaky Hebrew Christians who are at the milk stage, needing to be reminded of what Jesus accomplished for them. They are reminded of the rebellion at Kadesh Barnea and the failure of the Hebrews to enter into the land the Lord had bid them...
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    The problem of the statement of “never saved to begin with”

    Further, (if anyone is interested) the perspective I hold was exposed by Roger Price in Eternal Security (parts 1-3) available on Spotify and YouTube. More recently, Andy Woods has articulated a very similar view that incorporates free will, God’s forknowledge, judgement of believers works etc...
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    The problem of the statement of “never saved to begin with”

    Are these verses from Philippians 2 Calvinist or Arminian? 12Therefore, my beloved, as you have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling; 13for it is God who works in you both to will and to do for His good...
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    The problem of the statement of “never saved to begin with”

    I found this perspective concise and well argued. Btw, I am neither a Calvinist or an Arminian…
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    Conspiracies are a conspiracy.

    I found this teaching by Jon Courson was right to the point. Be simple concerning evil. So many conspiracy theorist are experts on evil and novices on goodness…
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    How non believers may view Christian's.

    OK, to illustrate, North Korea, officially the Democratic People's Republic of Korea. Whilst the country chooses to include the word “democratic” in the way it presents to the world, those who are politically aware know otherwise. Likewise the descriptive “Catholic” as universal applies to an...
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    How non believers may view Christian's.

    I tend to regard the word “Catholic” as a branding position rather than a self-evident truth. Many communist countries include the word “Democratic” in their national identities but fail to practice this aspect. In the same way, “catholic” means universal but the application to the Roman...
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    The Error of KJV-Onlyism

    I think the real question is whether we should embrace or reject critical text influenced versions. Codex Alexandrinus, Sinaiticus and Vaticanus were used extensively in producing Wescott & Hort’s RV. They are often touted as being the “oldest and best” but examination of what they say casts...
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    What to do in church meetings Protestant Tradition v. Scripture

    I have heard this claim before but never found a scripture reference that supported that specific an interpretation. What led you to that conclusion?
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    Kristallnacht 2:0

    Jeremiah 16 14 Therefore, behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that it shall no more be said, The Lord liveth, that brought up the children of Israel out of the land of Egypt; 15 But, The Lord liveth, that brought up the children of Israel from the land of the north, and from all the lands...
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    Kristallnacht 2:0

    With Jeremiah 16 in mind, I thought this one was worth posting up: