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  1. sawdust

    Loss of salvation???

    Which was to prepare Israel for their King and the Kingdom He would have established at the time if they had not rejected Him as a nation Matthew 3:7. John's baptism was a baptism of repentance Acts 13:24 Acts 19:4, it was a preparatory baptism. Christ's baptism is a baptism of power Acts 1:8...
  2. sawdust

    Loss of salvation???

    This is what is confusing. If we still sin, then sin is not gone is it for we still have the capacity to sin. You keep making it sound like sin is abolished at baptism when clearly you recognise it is not. Do you believe we have a sin nature (law of sin) dwelling in our body as per Rom.7:23?
  3. sawdust

    Matthew 24:40 Is the rapture secret?

    Where? It says they are taken, nothing about being gathered together. Once again you prove you don't listen. The wicked are not gathered before the tribulation. They are removed at the end on the Day Christ returns to Earth. It is not saying the earth will be half and half, it is...
  4. sawdust

    Loss of salvation???

    You've already said that. It is what you mean by "get rid of all sin" that eludes my understanding. How do you get rid of the law of sin (generally termed the sin nature) that resides in your body? (Rom.7:23) The sin we are born with and the sins we commit while alive are the totality of our...
  5. sawdust

    Loss of salvation???

    I asked if you think we no longer struggle with sin as per my post #2553 which I repeated below. I don't see where in this post that question is answered.
  6. sawdust

    Loss of salvation???

    Because it sounds like when you say "get rid of our sins" that you think we no longer have a sin nature and all sin is non-existent now because we are in Christ. Baptism is what God does to us, not what we get done. Matthew 3:11 Mark 1:8 Acts 1:5 Why do you think the Holy Spirit indwells us...
  7. sawdust

    Loss of salvation???

    Because you keep saying "get rid of our sins". Our personal sins are forgiven but our inherent sin nature remains, it is not done away with.
  8. sawdust

    Matthew 24:40 Is the rapture secret?

    You're the one who has made it a mess. There is no gathering for the wicked. There is no Rapture for the wicked. Those in the flood were never gathered together, they were destroyed by the waters. Some would have been swept away, some would have drowned trapped in their hiding places but there...
  9. sawdust

    Matthew 24:40 Is the rapture secret?

    Which is analogous to the Rapture of the Church prior to the beginning of the Tribulation period. The Church is in Christ and lifted above the Earth just as Noah was in the Ark and lifted above the waters. Then at the end of the Tribulation the Coming of the Son destroys the wicked by taking...
  10. sawdust

    Poll about how you see predestination/freewill

    I don't know about those terms but there is scripture to show God's will is expressed in what He wants, what He allows man to do with conditions attached (in spite of it not being what He wants) and there is what God allows man to do but will override his attempts if he tries to go beyond His...
  11. sawdust

    Matthew 24:40 Is the rapture secret?

    The word "paralambano" is also used of Satan taking Jesus to the temple and high mountain in His temptations. (Matt.4:5&8) Hardly sounds like the sort Jesus would associate with. Also used of the soldiers taking Jesus away to be crucified. (Jn.19:16) The word is not solely used of good...
  12. sawdust

    Poll about how you see predestination/freewill

    No. Go read my post again and ask yourself did you decide to be born in the Church age in what ever country reside? Did you decide as a believer that you would be given the Holy Spirit as a seal of your salvation? Along with all the other decisions God decided in regards to believers throughout...
  13. sawdust

    Matthew 24:40 Is the rapture secret?

    You listen to Perry Stone (assuming it is the one I think)? It explains a lot.
  14. sawdust

    Matthew 24:40 Is the rapture secret?

    The Son returns at the end of the Tribulation period (7 years). The Rapture occurs before the Tribulation begins. The Rapture is not the Second Coming. They are two separate and distinct events. The Rapture is the Church being taken to heaven as Jesus promised in John 14:3. It will occur in a...
  15. sawdust

    At what point in our salvation is the blood of Christ applied?

    God appointed pastor/teachers, not translator/harmonizors. Anyone can teach what they have been taught, some do it better than others but the appointment of pastor/teacher is specially equipped beyond what the average person can understand from simply reading scripture and praying about it, no...
  16. sawdust

    At what point in our salvation is the blood of Christ applied?

    When did God fill Chat GPT with the Holy Spirit so it can spiritually discern the truth?
  17. sawdust

    At what point in our salvation is the blood of Christ applied?

    He never said that. He said teachers of the word need to learn the languages and the history if they are to teach accurately and in depth. If we, as disciples, are to learn beyond the elemental principles then we need to learn from teachers who devote themselves to understanding the word through...
  18. sawdust

    Matthew 24:40 Is the rapture secret?

    And the passage of scripture is making you look bad. I'm not even a post-tribber so I have no clue what you are rambling on about. There is nothing in the passage about being in bed or caves or 1/3 of the population. I find your thinking to be quite incoherent and nonsensical. The setting is...
  19. sawdust

    At what point in our salvation is the blood of Christ applied?

    Proverbs 9:10 “The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom, And the knowledge of the Holy One is understanding. How do you think you got your English translation?
  20. sawdust

    Matthew 24:40 Is the rapture secret?

    No He didn't. Is English not your first language? He said all who were eating, drinking and marrying were taken away by the flood. If we were to use your logic, anyone who wasn't doing those three things at the exact time of the flood would have been safe as well, but no-one was safe except for...