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    Understanding God’s election

    The Efficacy of God's Saving Grace There's a passage in scripture wherein Paul poignantly attests to the nature of God's saving grace; and I think many of us miss what he's saying because his comments come in the context of the central passage in all scripture that pertains to Christ's...
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    Understanding God’s election

    It's about that, as well! This is why Gen 3:15 is often referred to as the woman's [primary] seed which is the promised Messiah; but that doesn't mean that she didn't have other seed, as well. There's a reason why Adam named her "Eve", for he knew she would "become the mother of all the...
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    Understanding God’s election

    I see a choice being made by the son. You merely ASSUME that the son made that choice entirely by the power of his own "freewill", apart from any enabling grace.
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    Understanding God’s election

    I guess you didn't understand the passages I cited? I'm equally astounded that you apparently aren't aware that there are only two kinds of spiritual children in the world: The children of God and the children of the devil. And Eve has everything to do with Gen 3:15. After all, God reconciled...
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    Understanding God’s election

    But that's not what is in view in Gen 3:15. In fact, it's not even about the serpent who the devil possessed. It's all about the devil and the woman...and her seed and his seed. Christ will one day crush the head of the devil -- not the serpent's or "Nephilim". Connect the dots with these...
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    Understanding God’s election

    Wrong! The Serpent's seed is about the devil! And the woman's seed is about her spiritual seed. Physical seed is not ultimately in view in Gen 3:15! After all, the devil does not procreate; but he is the spiritual father of all unbelievers, just as Abraham is the spiritual father of all...
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    Understanding God’s election

    I agree! The Law can never save anyone. But that doesn't mean that law and grace are incompatible with each other! The Law is good, holy and righteous. And we saints are enjoined to learn how to use the Law lawfully -- which, of course, would be by grace through faith.
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    Understanding God’s election

    If this were true then none of the OT saints born under the Law could be saved! All the elect OT saints born under Law certainly battled the flesh, but the efficacy of God's grace (including his gifts of faith and repentance) guaranteed their victory. The reason why Israel was for the most...
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    Understanding God’s election

    But Yeshua is not in Adam's lineage! He's in Eve's! If Adam was saved after the Fall, why doesn't Jesus descend from Adam's seed, instead of Eve's? It's only fitting that Adam is listed in Luke's lineage since he was created by God directly -- not procreated as the rest of the people included...
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    Understanding God’s election

    I totally disagree with that! There was indeed saving grace in the Law for all those who by faith embraced God's gracious, redemptive, atoning provisions that He embedded into the Law through the Levitical Priesthood.
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    Understanding God’s election

    The "sheep" metaphor is yet another figure of speech that FWers play loose and fancy with! Sheep are not only among the dumbest animals on the planet but they also lack physical strength and speed to protect themselves from all their natural enemies. Sheep always required the care of...
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    Understanding God’s election

    A great passage that proves that God cannot possibly be biased for or against anyone, since there is NOTHING in man to warrant such bias or favor.
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    Understanding God’s election

    Surely, there was grace in the Law of Moses in terms of redemptive provisions that was extended to all Israel, so does this mean that God saved all Israel? Was not the nation known for paying huge lip service to the Lord while Israel's heart was far removed from Him? I just cannot proclaim...
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    Understanding God’s election

    (cut to save space) FWers are long on boasting and bragging about their volitional prowess and powers but come up totally short on the virtue of humility. Just like the ungodly within the world system, FWers must find something upon which to take credit for their own salvation. The sin of...
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    Understanding God’s election

    All the many strikes (about 14 of them if I recall) against Adam are most certainly revealed in scripture and make for very compelling evidence. Where in the scheme of progressive revelation is anything spiritually positive said about Adam? Yet, we do have positive spiritual statements made...
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    Understanding God’s election

    Actually, the bible is quite specific! Unlike scripture's positive testimony about Eve's faith, there is no such explicit testimony regarding Adam. And this fact is just the tip of the iceberg regarding all the many problems surrounding Adam. The most pernicious and persistent of these...
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    Understanding God’s election

    God made coverings for both A&E; but where in scripture does it remotely hint that Adam embraced God's provision by faith? Also, didn't God make atonement provision in the Law of Moses for all Israel, but does that mean that all Israel was saved? Or...were only those who availed themselves of...
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    Understanding God’s election

    You are correct. I was just making the logical inference to Studier's appeal to Abel as, apparently, being the first believer. Re Eve, there are two passages that provide evidence she was indeed a believer after God reconciled her to Himself in Gen 3:15. Conversely, no such evidence exists...
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    Understanding God’s election

    So, tell us what your point was to highlighting (underlining) "we understand" in Heb 11:3? Exactly who are the "we" in the text? Is the "we" in the passage the entire world in the distributive sense? If not, what is the point to quoting the text in the first place...beside the point on top...
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    Understanding God’s election

    Then explain to me how all unregenerate unbelievers are not idolaters. This dark, fallen world is filled with idolaters! Of course, your refusal to simply come out and honestly give a simple "yes" or "no" answer re Jer 13:23a speaks volumes as to what you really believe. You, like PT...