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    Understanding God’s election

    Explain why. Jesus said nothing is impossible for God! God raised the totally dead Jesus from his tomb but he has no power to save the totally depraved?
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    Understanding God’s election

    So...the God who created the universe out of NOTHING doesn't know how to save the totally depraved? The totally depraved have stumped God Almighty, while at the same time possessing this "sovereign free" will that can overcome their total depravity. IOW, the totally depraved can do something...
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    Understanding God’s election

    Don't know how...what?????????????????????????????? Can you be any more vague? :rolleyes:
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    Understanding God’s election

    So many read the scriptures irresponsibly and recklessly. You nailed it perfectly above. They don't pay close attention to the order of words or phrases in scripture. Eph 2:8-9 clearly places grace BEFORE faith. We're saved BY grace through faith when means faith is a byproduct of grace. And...
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    Understanding God’s election

    The only "dogma bucket " I have is that physically dead people have no ability to do anything. (Common sense.) Ditto when it comes to the spiritual dead. God must raise up the dead before they can believe.
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    Understanding God’s election

    Your post is incoherent. I can't understand what you're saying.
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    Understanding God’s election

    But without the divine gift, the hearers will remain dead (deaf) to the gospel. The gift of faith must come from God before anyone can respond positively.
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    Understanding God’s election

    Well...if Adam wanted to lay down this life on behalf of his wife, why didn't he abstain from eating and then afterward when approached by God ask God to take his life instead of Eve's? Did Jesus have to sin in order to lay down his life for his Father's elect?
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    Understanding God’s election

    No, it's not be inferred. To infer that God made a covenant would be unprecedented and none of us should just glibly do unprecedented because it helps to support your personal theological agenda, especially since all the other covenants in the bible are explicitly stated. Furthermore, if God...
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    Understanding God’s election

    Where is there mention in the bible of this mysterious covenant? The first explicit mention of a covenant is the one God made with Noah. And the second mention of a covenant is with Abraham when God determined to make a particular people his chosen people. And if you had read my 15-pt...
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    Understanding God’s election

    That's easy. God raises the dead. Once they're raised they become his NEW CREATION. Now that they have spiritual life "coursing through their veins" or their skin or whatever, they become free to be able to positively respond to the gospel.
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    Understanding God’s election

    I'm wrong because......???? I'm wrong because I refuse to make assumptions or read my personal biased presuppositions into passages? If that's case: I happily plead guilty as charged! When you guys can come up with one piece of BIBLICAL evidence that Adam received God's gift by faith, by all...
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    Understanding God’s election

    There's nothing illogical or worldly in what I wrote. It's common sense! Suppose someone gets arrested for a crime and the only evidence the police have is from one eyewitness who claims he saw the suspect run from the scene of the crime. The case goes to court and the defense provides...
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    Understanding God’s election

    Talk about God's providence. I'm having my evening devotional in the Psalms, and Ps 4:5 jumped out at me and is pertinent to what I've been questioning all along about Gen 3:21 with regards to the assumption made by many (if not most) that Adam received the animal coverings from God by faith...
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    Understanding God’s election

    On the other hand, you and others have to hang your hat on one verse (3:21) whereas I cam up with a large number of verses that form the preponderance of evidence to the effect that God did not redeem Adam. And it wasn't until years later that I expanded my argument to show how Adam was also...
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    Understanding God’s election

    Yes, I do for about 15 different reasons that I unearthed from scripture. The fact that he had empirical proof of God's existence is only one of those reasons. Another is that Adam must fall into one of the two seeds in Gen 3:15; and it sure isn't the Woman's seed since he did not proceed...
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    Understanding God’s election

    So...is it God's work, the believers' work or both? Also, Jesus did not answer them telling them the "work of God" is that you work faith into yourself.
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    Understanding God’s election

    Prove everything you've said from the bible. It seems to me that if the brain of man plays such a big role in his moral/spiritual obligations to God, then scripture would command us to transform our brains. Yet, it instead it tells us to transform our MINDS which is the immaterial part of the...
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    Understanding God’s election

    In the heart.
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    Understanding God’s election

    And there's a great reason behind what you just stated. The angels have empirical evidence for God's existence whereas humans do not, which is precisely why faith is the mode of man's salvation. The one exception to what I just said is Adam. Adam talked and communed with God in the Garden...