Users being bombarded by an unChristian emergent Church industry

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Chuckt

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Users being bombarded by an unChristian emergent Church industry here. You have pastors who sit in a room all day who decide their mission is to attack the established Church and write articles against us.

I think it isn't a level playing field where you have pastors who don't believe and who are writing articles against Christians and the Church because they are here to draw away disciples after themselves which is poaching against your rules.

Acts 20:29 For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock.
Acts 20:30 Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them.

In one sense you are asking for donations and in another sense, you are allowing an industry to attack us here which isn't safe or healthy. And we're supposed to sit by and play by the rules.

I think Christian Chat and the users examine what is going on and speak up because this isn't normal for a lot of people to be subject to this travesty.

Do you lock your doors at night or do you leave your house unlocked so that criminals can try your doors?

When you don't protect the sheep, love ceases to be love.
 
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Ugly

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This section is for making suggestions on how to improve the site. So... not sure how this ties in.
 
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Users being bombarded by an unChristian emergent Church industry here. You have pastors who sit in a room all day who decide their mission is to attack the established Church and write articles against us.

I think it isn't a level playing field where you have pastors who don't believe and who are writing articles against Christians and the Church because they are here to draw away disciples after themselves which is poaching against your rules.

Acts 20:29 For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock.
Acts 20:30 Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them.

In one sense you are asking for donations and in another sense, you are allowing an industry to attack us here which isn't safe or healthy. And we're supposed to sit by and play by the rules.

I think Christian Chat and the users examine what is going on and speak up because this isn't normal for a lot of people to be subject to this travesty.

Do you lock your doors at night or do you leave your house unlocked so that criminals can try your doors?

When you don't protect the sheep, love ceases to be love.
The jury's still out on this, but in the less-than-two weeks you've been here, not that much love seems to be coming from your own posts.
 
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Chuckt

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The jury's still out on this, but in the less-than-two weeks you've been here, not that much love seems to be coming from your own posts.
I volunteer my time out of love. My family says that I shouldn't spend time on you all because it doesn't make any money.

Love that doesn't protect ceases to be love.

You also have to understand that I'm a Christian first and that our relationship is not a two way street if you want me to accept heresies or wolves attacking sheep.

What would Jesus say?

Revelation 2:20 Nevertheless, I have this against you: You tolerate that woman Jezebel, who calls herself a prophet. By her teaching she misleads my servants into sexual immorality and the eating of food sacrificed to idols.

In light of Revelation 2:20, whose version of love is correct? Your version or Jesus' version of love?
 
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Users being bombarded by an unChristian emergent Church industry here. You have pastors who sit in a room all day who decide their mission is to attack the established Church and write articles against us.

I think it isn't a level playing field where you have pastors who don't believe and who are writing articles against Christians and the Church because they are here to draw away disciples after themselves which is poaching against your rules.

Acts 20:29 For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock.
Acts 20:30 Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them.

In one sense you are asking for donations and in another sense, you are allowing an industry to attack us here which isn't safe or healthy. And we're supposed to sit by and play by the rules.

I think Christian Chat and the users examine what is going on and speak up because this isn't normal for a lot of people to be subject to this travesty.

Do you lock your doors at night or do you leave your house unlocked so that criminals can try your doors?

When you don't protect the sheep, love ceases to be love.
I do not know what you are referring to. If I did, maybe I’d agree with you. I’d like to say two things, though.

First, one of the things I love about this site is the freedom we have to witness to our insights.

Second, the established church isn’t always right. If there were to be a rule that we can’t disagree with the established church, then what would we do?
 
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Chuckt

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I do not know what you are referring to. If I did, maybe I’d agree with you. I’d like to say two things, though.

First, one of the things I love about this site is the freedom we have to witness to our insights.

Second, the established church isn’t always right. If there were to be a rule that we can’t disagree with the established church, then what would we do?
There is a guy where I work who isn't a Christian who wanted me to help him start a church so that he could take people's money. He said we would rent a room and furnish it with tables and chairs and he would talk to people. I said, "no".

The game hasn't changed for 2,000 years. I recognize the leaders of this organization as non-Christian and they are posting on here.

My last church decided to take down the denominational name because they believed that more people would come to church which sounded great to some people but they stopped telling people the gospel or telling people the right things or enough of the right things and they kicked the real Christians out.

You basically have apostate pastors sitting in a room attacking the Apostle Paul and that is the foundation of the Church (Ephesians 2:20) and everyone here is asleep except for a few users. They have their arguments listed for attacking Christians because they want to redesign Church to be for the unsaved and kick the Christians out.

Meanwhile you and everyone else sits by while I see an attack by a secular church industry run by the anti-Christ and the posts are coming on this message forum while everyone else is idly sitting by unaware, uninvolved and unsophisticated for Christ. It is time for people to wake up and do what you can for Jesus Christ to stand for the truth and proper salvation. Because if you don't, they will feed people a lie. That is why they are lying about eternal suffering in hell. That is why they are lying about a lot of things. It is easier for them to trick people who are asleep and it is easier for them to trick those who aren't concerned about doctrine and it is easier to trick people who are only concerned about feelings instead of God's truth.
 
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There is a guy where I work who isn't a Christian who wanted me to help him start a church so that he could take people's money. He said we would rent a room and furnish it with tables and chairs and he would talk to people. I said, "no".

The game hasn't changed for 2,000 years. I recognize the leaders of this organization as non-Christian and they are posting on here.

My last church decided to take down the denominational name because they believed that more people would come to church which sounded great to some people but they stopped telling people the gospel or telling people the right things or enough of the right things and they kicked the real Christians out.

You basically have apostate pastors sitting in a room attacking the Apostle Paul and that is the foundation of the Church (Ephesians 2:20) and everyone here is asleep except for a few users. They have their arguments listed for attacking Christians because they want to redesign Church to be for the unsaved and kick the Christians out.

Meanwhile you and everyone else sits by while I see an attack by a secular church industry run by the anti-Christ and the posts are coming on this message forum while everyone else is idly sitting by unaware, uninvolved and unsophisticated for Christ. It is time for people to wake up and do what you can for Jesus Christ to stand for the truth and proper salvation. Because if you don't, they will feed people a lie. That is why they are lying about eternal suffering in hell. That is why they are lying about a lot of things. It is easier for them to trick people who are asleep and it is easier for them to trick those who aren't concerned about doctrine and it is easier to trick people who are only concerned about feelings instead of God's truth.
I only read a small fraction of the posts on this site. I don’t have the patience to read long posts. The reason I read this post is that it was directed to me, and I find this interesting.

One thing I strongly disagree with is this: You say the church is founded on the teachings if Paul. You are very wrong. The church is founded on Jesus Christ.

There are things I read here that I do not agree with. When I don’t, I state my opinion and defend it, if others disagree with me.

I have learned, through the grace of God, that when I resist temptation, life is beautiful, though not without challenges. I frequently witness to this. There are people who disagree with me. I don’t know why, but they do. Jesus told us to repent:

From that time Jesus began to preach, saying, "Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand." Matt 4:17 RSV

I think, though, that a lot of people don’t want to repent. They want to find an easier way into heaven. The funny thing is, they can have heaven right now if they repent.
 
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Chuckt

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I only read a small fraction of the posts on this site. I don’t have the patience to read long posts. The reason I read this post is that it was directed to me, and I find this interesting.

One thing I strongly disagree with is this: You say the church is founded on the teachings if Paul. You are very wrong. The church is founded on Jesus Christ.
Let me please clarify what I'm saying:

Ephesians 2:20 And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;

Was Paul an Apostle? He was.

Therefore, the Church was built upon the prophets and the Church was built upon the apostles which Paul was one of them.

So in the true sense, Paul was one of the Apostles that the Church is built on according to Ephesians 2:20. When a user attacks the Apostle Paul, they are attacking the work of God.
 
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Let me please clarify what I'm saying:

Ephesians 2:20 And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;

Was Paul an Apostle? He was.

Therefore, the Church was built upon the prophets and the Church was built upon the apostles which Paul was one of them.

So in the true sense, Paul was one of the Apostles that the Church is built on according to Ephesians 2:20. When a user attacks the Apostle Paul, they are attacking the work of God.
Nobody should attack anyone, but only Jesus Christ is perfect.
 

eternallife7

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Users being bombarded by an unChristian emergent Church industry here. You have pastors who sit in a room all day who decide their mission is to attack the established Church and write articles against us.

I think it isn't a level playing field where you have pastors who don't believe and who are writing articles against Christians and the Church because they are here to draw away disciples after themselves which is poaching against your rules.

Acts 20:29 For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock.
Acts 20:30 Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them.

In one sense you are asking for donations and in another sense, you are allowing an industry to attack us here which isn't safe or healthy. And we're supposed to sit by and play by the rules.

I think Christian Chat and the users examine what is going on and speak up because this isn't normal for a lot of people to be subject to this travesty.

Do you lock your doors at night or do you leave your house unlocked so that criminals can try your doors?

When you don't protect the sheep, love ceases to be love.
1 Timothy 1:20 that stuff is real and still occurs.