2 WITNESSES OF THE TRUTH

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JOHN 5:31-32

31 If I bear witness of myself, my witness is not true.

32 There is another that beareth witness of me; and I know that the witness which he witnesseth of me is true.
 
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John 5:36-37
But I have greater witness than that of John: for the works which the Father hath given me to finish, the same works that I do, bear witness of me, that the Father hath sent me.
And the Father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape.

He's talking about the Two Witnesses of Revelation and the Holy Spirit.
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John 5:24-42
Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.
Verily, verily, I say unto you, The hour is coming, and now is, when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God: and they that hear shall live.
For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself;
And hath given him authority to execute judgment also, because he is the Son of man.
Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,
And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.
I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me.
If I bear witness of myself, my witness is not true.
There is another that beareth witness of me; and I know that the witness which he witnesseth of me is true.
Ye sent unto John, and he bare witness unto the truth.
But I receive not testimony from man: but these things I say, that ye might be saved.
He was a burning and a shining light: and ye were willing for a season to rejoice in his light.
But I have greater witness than that of John: for the works which the Father hath given me to finish, the same works that I do, bear witness of me, that the Father hath sent me.
And the Father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape.
And ye have not his word abiding in you: for whom he hath sent, him ye believe not.
Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.
And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life.
I receive not honour from men.
But I know you, that ye have not the love of God in you.
 
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JOHN 5:31-32

31 If I bear witness of myself, my witness is not true.

32 There is another that beareth witness of me; and I know that the witness which he witnesseth of me is true.
Okay. Did you have a question about these scriptures? What's the point of it?
 
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JOHN 5:31-32

31 If I bear witness of myself, my witness is not true.

32 There is another that beareth witness of me; and I know that the witness which he witnesseth of me is true.
In John 5, Jesus' detractors saught to kill Him, "because He not only broke the Sabbath, but also said that God was His Father, making Himself equal with God" (Jn 5:18). He followed up on their desires to kill Him by giving a full throated defense of His diety, His authority to pass judgement, His intimate personal relationship with the Father, and His ability to give eternal life to whomever He wishes. And He offered several witnesses that corroborate His claims...
  • Jesus' testimony about Himself corroborated by the testimony of:
    • John the Baptist,
    • Jesus' works,
    • The Father Himself, and
    • The Scriptures
These witnesses were and are for the purpose of convincing people to believe in Jesus so they may obtain eternal life from Him who is the giver of eternal life...

24 “Most assuredly, I say to you, he who hears My word and believes in Him who sent Me has everlasting life, and shall not come into judgment, but has passed from death into life. 25 Most assuredly, I say to you, the hour is coming, and now is, when the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God; and those who hear will live. 26 For as the Father has life in Himself, so He has granted the Son to have life in Himself, 27 and has given Him authority to execute judgment also, because He is the Son of Man. (Jn 5:24–27)​
 
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JOHN 5:31-32

31 If I bear witness of myself, my witness is not true.

32 There is another that beareth witness of me; and I know that the witness which he witnesseth of me is true.
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Who are the 2 witnesses in which the 1st witness statement is not true and the 2nd witness statement is only the true?
 

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Who are the 2 witnesses in which the 1st witness statement is not true and the 2nd witness statement is only the true?
The first witness was true. Read the first part of the verse as well: "IF I bear witness of myself, my witness is not true" But Jesus did not bear witness of Himself only, there is another one that beareth witness of Him.
 
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Who are the 2 witnesses in which the 1st witness statement is not true and the 2nd witness statement is only the true?
The NASB does a good job of rendering the verses in question. In verse 31, Jesus uses words which emphasize the word "I". Literally, He said, "If I I testify about myself...". NASB renders that language as, "If I alone testify about...".

31 “If I alone testify about Myself, My testimony is not true.
32 “There is another who testifies of Me, and I know that the testimony which He gives about Me is true.
[New American Standard Bible: 1995 update (Jn 5:31–32). (1995). The Lockman Foundation.]​

Most modern translations capitalize pronouns the translators think relate to God. I tend to agree with them in this case. Taking that approach, we can easily conclude that in verse 31 Jesus is speaking of Himself and in verse 32 He is speaking of God the Father or perhaps the Holy Spirit.

The point He is making is that people need to find a way to trust what His is saying about Himself as the judge of the world and its Savior. And He is telling us that there are many other witnesses that corroborate what He is saying. He gave this list to help people overcome their unbelief and put their trust in Him.

On another occasion, he stated this in another way...

37 If I do not do the works of My Father, do not believe Me; 38 but if I do, though you do not believe Me, believe the works, that you may know and believe that the Father is in Me, and I in Him. (Jn 10:37–38)​

In other words, He told them, "If you don't believe what I'm telling you is true, just look at the miracles I am performing. That should be proof enough for anyone to overcome their unbelief of who I am."