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That is strange that anyone, would take that to mean what you said, because, its not talking about baptizing for people who have passed on already.... I guess its a hard saying
because; of the way it was translated into English here. But if you follow and read slowly; the subject is about Christ does save and there is life after death.
1 cor 15:
29 Else what shall they do which are baptized for the dead, if the dead rise not at all? why are they then baptized for the dead?
Following the subject of the chapter: Paul is saying, Why are we baptizing , if you don't believe that the dead will rise again in Christ. Why are we baptizing them for ; if they don't rise from the dead?
30 And why stand we in jeopardy every hour?
And why are we risking our lives every day ? If we did not believe this was true; we would not risk our lives for it.
Read the chapter from the start, and you will see this is the subject.
These are some verses before that verse :
1 cor 15:
12 Now if Christ be preached that he rose from the dead, how say some among you that there is no resurrection of the dead?
13 But if there be no resurrection of the dead, then is Christ not risen:
14 And if Christ be not risen, then is our preaching vain, and your faith is also vain.
15 Yea, and we are found false witnesses of God; because we have testified of God that he raised up Christ: whom he raised not up, if so be that the dead rise not.
16 For if the dead rise not, then is not Christ raised:
17 And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins.
18 Then they also which are fallen asleep in Christ are perished.
19 If in this life only we have hope in Christ, we are of all men most miserable.
20 But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept.
21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.
22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive........
Paul even goes into the fact that we have two bodies in that chapter.
because; of the way it was translated into English here. But if you follow and read slowly; the subject is about Christ does save and there is life after death.
1 cor 15:
29 Else what shall they do which are baptized for the dead, if the dead rise not at all? why are they then baptized for the dead?
Following the subject of the chapter: Paul is saying, Why are we baptizing , if you don't believe that the dead will rise again in Christ. Why are we baptizing them for ; if they don't rise from the dead?
30 And why stand we in jeopardy every hour?
And why are we risking our lives every day ? If we did not believe this was true; we would not risk our lives for it.
Read the chapter from the start, and you will see this is the subject.
These are some verses before that verse :
1 cor 15:
12 Now if Christ be preached that he rose from the dead, how say some among you that there is no resurrection of the dead?
13 But if there be no resurrection of the dead, then is Christ not risen:
14 And if Christ be not risen, then is our preaching vain, and your faith is also vain.
15 Yea, and we are found false witnesses of God; because we have testified of God that he raised up Christ: whom he raised not up, if so be that the dead rise not.
16 For if the dead rise not, then is not Christ raised:
17 And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins.
18 Then they also which are fallen asleep in Christ are perished.
19 If in this life only we have hope in Christ, we are of all men most miserable.
20 But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept.
21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.
22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive........
Paul even goes into the fact that we have two bodies in that chapter.
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Isn't amazing how scripture can be misinterpreted when one verse is taken out of context!
Annointedshepherd, you may not be able to prove to the mormons what baptism means. Unfortunately people take what they want from scripture and leave the rest and will argue to no end over it. That is one of the reasons why there are so many religions out there.
Annointedshepherd, you may not be able to prove to the mormons what baptism means. Unfortunately people take what they want from scripture and leave the rest and will argue to no end over it. That is one of the reasons why there are so many religions out there.
I am sorry, but this is the only passage in the whole bible on the subject; and it implys that the corinthians did indeed babptize people for the dead. Paul does not condemn the practice, he only uses it to make a point! so it appears that this is a practice that is not a sin! if it were, Pual would have told them not to do it any more; for the whole letter is a letter of instruction and rebuke for sin.
Have a blessed day.
elder1
Have a blessed day.
elder1
In the context, 1 Corinthians 15:3, 4 shows that what is principally under discussion is belief in the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ. The following verses then present evidence of the soundness of that belief (vss 5-11); they discuss the serious implications of denying belief in the resurrection (vss 12-19), the fact that the resurrection of Christ gives assurance that others will be raised from the dead (vss 20-23), and how all of this works toward the unification of all intelligent creation with God (vss 24-28). Verse 29 obviously is an integral part of this discussion. The concern is whose resurrection is at issue in verse 29. Verses 30 to 34 clearly show that the future life prospects of living Christians are there being discussed, and verses 35 to 58 state that those were faithful Christians who had the hope of heavenly life.
That agrees with Romans 6:3, which says: “Do you not know that all of us who were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death?” As this scripture makes plain, that is not a baptism that a Christian undergoes on behalf of someone already dead but is, instead, something that affects the person’s own future.
The sense is, then, were those Christians “baptized for the purpose of being dead ones,” or “baptized into his death”? They were immersed into a course of life that was to lead them as integrity-keepers to death, as was the case with Christ, and with the hope of a resurrection like his to immortal spirit life. (Romans 6:4, 5; Philippians 3:10, 11) This was not a baptism that was accomplished quickly, as water immersion is. More than three years after his immersion in water, Jesus spoke of a baptism that was not yet completed in his own case and that was yet future for his disciples. (Mark 10:35-40) Since this baptism leads to resurrection to heavenly life, it must begin with the operation of God’s spirit on the person in such a way as to engender that hope, and it must end, not at death, but with realization of the prospect of immortal spirit life by means of the resurrection.-2 Corinthians 1:21, 22; 1 Corinthians 6:14.
That agrees with Romans 6:3, which says: “Do you not know that all of us who were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death?” As this scripture makes plain, that is not a baptism that a Christian undergoes on behalf of someone already dead but is, instead, something that affects the person’s own future.
The sense is, then, were those Christians “baptized for the purpose of being dead ones,” or “baptized into his death”? They were immersed into a course of life that was to lead them as integrity-keepers to death, as was the case with Christ, and with the hope of a resurrection like his to immortal spirit life. (Romans 6:4, 5; Philippians 3:10, 11) This was not a baptism that was accomplished quickly, as water immersion is. More than three years after his immersion in water, Jesus spoke of a baptism that was not yet completed in his own case and that was yet future for his disciples. (Mark 10:35-40) Since this baptism leads to resurrection to heavenly life, it must begin with the operation of God’s spirit on the person in such a way as to engender that hope, and it must end, not at death, but with realization of the prospect of immortal spirit life by means of the resurrection.-2 Corinthians 1:21, 22; 1 Corinthians 6:14.