Buddhism Vs. Christianity
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Back to the OPs question, Buddhism denies the existence of existence. It denies the world, and worse it denies pain as nothing more than an illusion. Buddhism teaches that existence is the dream of the universe/god/existence itself. In essence, existence did not understand itself, and therefore made existence.
Christianity does not deny the world or pain. God understands Himself fully, and the creation of everything is according to His plan. God is greater than His existence, unlike in Buddhism. Buddhism is about reaching a state of nirvana (extinction) in which a person becomes one with the universe. (Better put, the person ceases to exist and returns the knowledge to its true self). Christianity teaches that when we die, we either are destined for eternal joy or eternal death.
Christianity does not deny the world or pain. God understands Himself fully, and the creation of everything is according to His plan. God is greater than His existence, unlike in Buddhism. Buddhism is about reaching a state of nirvana (extinction) in which a person becomes one with the universe. (Better put, the person ceases to exist and returns the knowledge to its true self). Christianity teaches that when we die, we either are destined for eternal joy or eternal death.
All those people you mentioned are dead, correct?
What happens upon the death of a man, Rick? If you are struggling you can find it in Ecclesiastes.
Now upon that death, how are we raised, Rick? Corruptible (which went to the grave) or INCORRUPTIBLE (which comes out of the grave)?
Hitler's dead. Only God can raise him up from that. And, how will He raise him up? See above for the answer!
What happens upon the death of a man, Rick? If you are struggling you can find it in Ecclesiastes.
Now upon that death, how are we raised, Rick? Corruptible (which went to the grave) or INCORRUPTIBLE (which comes out of the grave)?
Hitler's dead. Only God can raise him up from that. And, how will He raise him up? See above for the answer!
There you go.....fully denying the reality of eternal separation from God.
Jesus referenced hell more than He did heaven!
Also the fact of eternal separation is laid out in the clearest of terms in many places in the book of Revelation.
(As it is in Psalms and Job and in some of the prophets)
- But......carry on. - (Do that voodoo that suits your mind so well)
Jesus referenced hell more than He did heaven!
Also the fact of eternal separation is laid out in the clearest of terms in many places in the book of Revelation.
(As it is in Psalms and Job and in some of the prophets)
- But......carry on. - (Do that voodoo that suits your mind so well)
John 3:
[SUP]1[/SUP] There was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews:
[SUP]2[/SUP] The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him.
[SUP]3[/SUP] Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
[SUP]4[/SUP] Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?
[SUP]5[/SUP] Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
[SUP]6[/SUP] That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
[SUP]7[/SUP] Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.
[SUP]1[/SUP] There was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews:
[SUP]2[/SUP] The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him.
[SUP]3[/SUP] Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
[SUP]4[/SUP] Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?
[SUP]5[/SUP] Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
[SUP]6[/SUP] That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
[SUP]7[/SUP] Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.
Read first, Revelation chapter's 2 & 3.
Then go to the great white throne judgement in the latter part of the same book (google 'white throne')
Also see Jesus' address of the rich man and Lazarus the beggar, the parable of the wheat and tares, etc. etc.
I mean, it's across the whole Bible. (Heaven and hell)
Look at it!
Peruse any three chapters and you will find a reference to either heaven or hell or both. (Usually both)
C'mon man!
At least be honest.
Then go to the great white throne judgement in the latter part of the same book (google 'white throne')
Also see Jesus' address of the rich man and Lazarus the beggar, the parable of the wheat and tares, etc. etc.
I mean, it's across the whole Bible. (Heaven and hell)
Look at it!
Peruse any three chapters and you will find a reference to either heaven or hell or both. (Usually both)
C'mon man!
At least be honest.
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2 Thessalonians 1:6-9 NASB
For after all it is only just for God to repay with affliction those who afflict you, and to give relief to you who are afflicted and to us as well when the Lord Jesus will be revealed from heaven with His mighty angels in flaming fire, dealing out retribution to those who do not know God and to those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus. These will pay the penalty of eternal destruction, away from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of His power,
For after all it is only just for God to repay with affliction those who afflict you, and to give relief to you who are afflicted and to us as well when the Lord Jesus will be revealed from heaven with His mighty angels in flaming fire, dealing out retribution to those who do not know God and to those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus. These will pay the penalty of eternal destruction, away from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of His power,
So you're taking Paul in 2 Thess to say that people are afflicted by 'carnal-nature people' (that is to say, not actual people but personified natures), and it is the 'carnal nature' people who will receive retribution for not knowing God and not obeying the gospel of the Lord Jesus? That everytime Paul talks about those who are perishing in 2 Thessalonians (or indeed any time anyone talks about people ever in the whole New Testament), he is in fact not talking about people at all, but simply about natures? This is actually what you're arguing?
I'd ask for you to actually justify that position, but given we're already so far off topic on this thread, I'd suggest you start another thread elsewhere (especially given you haven't actually responded to the thrust of most responses given to you - the complete disregard of my last post to you case in point). Your problem is not with Christianity vs Buddhism specifically, but is much more fundamental than that, and so is not relevant. Start a new thread.
I'd ask for you to actually justify that position, but given we're already so far off topic on this thread, I'd suggest you start another thread elsewhere (especially given you haven't actually responded to the thrust of most responses given to you - the complete disregard of my last post to you case in point). Your problem is not with Christianity vs Buddhism specifically, but is much more fundamental than that, and so is not relevant. Start a new thread.
Let's disregard the fact that you literally ignored everything that I posted previously and changed the topic. I'll do you the courtesy of answering your objection.
Three things:
1) We were talking about what the Bible says, not about some quasi-legal theory hypothetically practiced in secular courts. I'm sure you can appreciate that the one has absolutely nothing to do with the other. You want to make a case that the Bible teaches a legal straw man theory? Make your case from the Bible (ideally by responding to my previous objection)
2) Strawman theory (at least as it is usually presented) is a crock. If you like, feel free to explain more fully by what you mean by it - whenever I see someone mention it, they usually mean something different by it, which of course provides a veritable hotbed for conspiracy theories
3) And you're still off topic.
Three things:
1) We were talking about what the Bible says, not about some quasi-legal theory hypothetically practiced in secular courts. I'm sure you can appreciate that the one has absolutely nothing to do with the other. You want to make a case that the Bible teaches a legal straw man theory? Make your case from the Bible (ideally by responding to my previous objection)
2) Strawman theory (at least as it is usually presented) is a crock. If you like, feel free to explain more fully by what you mean by it - whenever I see someone mention it, they usually mean something different by it, which of course provides a veritable hotbed for conspiracy theories
3) And you're still off topic.