Chrislam

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Bryancampbell

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I just heard about this movement with Islamic people are moving forward to, somewhat underground or becoming popular. They try to connect Islam with Christianity, because in their own countries, going from a mosque to a church isn't always easy. So a group and religion is spreading similar to the messianic movement, where they are Christian they say, but still attend a mosque and practice the same Islam but believe in Christianity so they say???? A nice man on here posted a video about it in the bible discussion for more information!!!! I think they are trying to confuse the world derp....
 
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richie_2uk

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its not them trying to confuse the world. its the enemy himself. Chrislam has been going for some time, now, and there methods of getting members is more of a concern. they want to be a church with walls, were as true Christians want to be a church without walls. there is a lot of secrecy among the chrislam, so you be surprised how much freemason is involved. have a watch at this video. you will see more to it.

[video=youtube;VOwkpl7cPQk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOwkpl7cPQk[/video]
 
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richie_2uk

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Steer away from Chrislam. Its pure evil, the roots to it all is evil. many are saying its the one world religion that could be the one us Christians has been waiting to hear about from God's own prophesy. Steer away from it. a true Christian will know not to join, or to take part or have anything to do with Chrislam.
 
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leonardronaldo

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lol i didn't even know if people take chrislam seriously.
 
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Shiloah

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Does the Chrislam religion confess Jesus as the only Son of God? Died and raised and is now in heaven sitting at the right hand of God? That we have to accept Him to be saved? I didn't hear that addressed.
 
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Shiloah

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Just read a little about this belief system. Yeah, I see the problem.
 
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amdg

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Wouldn't really worry about it. According to wikipedia there are 1500 adherents, that is plenty small. There are all sorts of NRMs out there saying similar things.
 
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FIRE_of_ELIJAH

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I heard about this so called "chrislam". Jack van impe knows a lot better about this matter. Christianity can't mix with islam...just like truth can't mix up with the lies. There's no other way but Jesus .
 
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CherylJohannes

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This is the first I've heard of it! Don't worry though, just keep serving God till the end.
 
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Ugly

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It's purported that Rick Warren is a supporter of Chistlam. I don't know that he fully teaches it, but he does seem to have an agenda to bring Christians and Muslims together.
 
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isaria

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One major thing seperating christianity and islam is death of jesus and trinity.
Islam does not beleive in trinity or that jesus is son of god no do they believe jesus died.
They beleive jesus "look like" died instead.
They do beleive in old testament and also holy Quran.


I beleive one can beleive in both.
One hand bible another Holy Quran in some way shape form....


Then theres people beleive other theories and bible coding and much other things.


some people have said jesus and mohammed were homosexual in times interacting and history books got it wrong regarding the time.
that they hid men in burkas to cover up homosexuality they were to afraid to stand for or they kept straight woman in burka nd used them as slaves.
Muslims beleive isa jesus existed but some one else was crucified instead.
Some say was a woman in 10 % so they have rest to use her energy and colours and woman was crucuifed but they all survived but as they were homosexual they used the crucified woman as slave and swapped her for a spoiled woman who was homosexual or at least bisexual to help them cover up "things" and her feminine energy in there bodies was helpful and made them feel good and beautiful and she felt horrid.


Ofcourse those who say such things in books etc keep low profile as they may be attacked and bashed by mobs of christians and muslims.
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1Christianwarrior316

1Christianwarrior316

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isaria said:
I beleive one can beleive in both.
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How can a person believe in both when they contradict each other.
The Bible teaches Christ crucified. And teaches us Jesus Christ is the only begotten Son of God.
The quran on the other hand teaches that Christ was not crucified. And that God has no son.
By God's definition those who deny the Father and the Son are "antichrist," 1John 2:22.
And as brother AziziLoveChrist has said "light and darkness cannot be mixed !"
 
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Anonimous

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1Christianwarrior316 said:
How can a person believe in both when they contradict each other.
The Bible teaches Christ crucified. And teaches us Jesus Christ is the only begotten Son of God.
The quran on the other hand teaches that Christ was not crucified. And that God has no son.
By God's definition those who deny the Father and the Son are "antichrist," 1John 2:22.
And as brother AziziLoveChrist has said "light and darkness cannot be mixed !"
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It's truly a wonder that there are not more wedgies in the world...considering so many people want to straddle the fence.
 
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Anonimous

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isaria said:
One major thing seperating christianity and islam is death of jesus and trinity.
Islam does not beleive in trinity or that jesus is son of god no do they believe jesus died.
They beleive jesus "look like" died instead.
They do beleive in old testament and also holy Quran.


I beleive one can beleive in both.
One hand bible another Holy Quran in some way shape form....


Then theres people beleive other theories and bible coding and much other things.


some people have said jesus and mohammed were homosexual in times interacting and history books got it wrong regarding the time.
that they hid men in burkas to cover up homosexuality they were to afraid to stand for or they kept straight woman in burka nd used them as slaves.
Muslims beleive isa jesus existed but some one else was crucified instead.
Some say was a woman in 10 % so they have rest to use her energy and colours and woman was crucuifed but they all survived but as they were homosexual they used the crucified woman as slave and swapped her for a spoiled woman who was homosexual or at least bisexual to help them cover up "things" and her feminine energy in there bodies was helpful and made them feel good and beautiful and she felt horrid.


Ofcourse those who say such things in books etc keep low profile as they may be attacked and bashed by mobs of christians and muslims.
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The first statement alone should be evidence enough that these two should not be thought of as equal. Jesus is not only the Son of God...He is the only Messiah as prophesied for centuries before He came to us...He will not share His reign with anyone...not allah, mohammad, not anyone.
 
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Anonimous

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Shiloah said:
Does the Chrislam religion confess Jesus as the only Son of God? Died and raised and is now in heaven sitting at the right hand of God? That we have to accept Him to be saved? I didn't hear that addressed.
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Nope............................
 
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parablepete

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Text: II Peter 2:1-3

I.There are few of us who don’t like a good bargain when we can get one.
A.There are some here who will look high-and-low for the best deal, whether it be groceries or a used car.
B.Of course, some people don’t seem to have a clue as to what truly is a bargain.
1.We all hear of people who will buy the milk that is on sale for $2.19 even though the store down the street’s regular price is $1.99.
2.I suspect, too, that several stores have sales by first raising the regular price and then advertising a discount that brings the price back down to a typical range.
3.I’m sure quite a bit of merchandise moves just because a retailer slaps a sale sign on the product.
C.A few times I will get caught buying what I think is a good deal, but then later finding out I wasn’t buying what I thought I was getting.
1.Cheap substitutes are not bargains.
D.Unfortunately, people let their desire for a discount drive their search for a church- II Peter 2:3
1.The word “exploit” is translated from a Greek work meaning to engage in business trade.
2.The King James translates it as making merchandise of you.
II.The bargains offered in denominations
A.Unity of all believers
1.There are people who want unity for unity’s sake. So long as a person is a believer, then they should join together.
2.Yet the definition of a believer is very flexible. You will find acceptance for groups who do not believe in the virgin birth of Jesus or do not believe in the resurrection of Jesus. Often they have doubts about the miracles found in the Bible or whether Jesus was really divine.
3.Unity is important - Ephesians 4:1-3
a.But not to the acceptance of lies in place of the truth.
b.Jesus was born of a virgin - Matthew 1:23
c.The resurrection of Jesus is a fact that is the basis of Christianity - I Corinthians 15:1-4
d.Look at the consequence of this one disbelief - I Corinthians 15:12-19
4.Yet people buy into a religion that accepts anyone and any belief for the simple fact that it is cheap.
a.It is a religion that contains no challenges.
b.There is no way you can go wrong.
c.It offers salvation to everyone, whether they are obedient to the Scriptures or not.
d.There is not need to reform your life, you can be saved just the way you are.
5.What a bargain, yet it is a discount on lies.
B.Join the church of your choice
1.It has become a prevalent belief in the U.S. that one church is good as another.
a.Have you seen denominations whose membership far exceeds their weekly attendance?
(1)Many find the convenience of sending in their contributions.
(2)They can be members without ever having to go to church
b.In fact, you don’t even have to be apart of any organized religion if you don’t care for that sort of thing.
c.This kind of discount is snapped up by people who don’t want to be bothered finding true church of Jesus Christ.
d.Convenience is the primary objective.
(1)Whether it is selecting a church because we have always gone to that type of church
(2)Or picking the one that is closest to home
(3)People want a church that takes no effort to examine.
2.Jesus, though, said he would build his church - Matthew 16:18 – singular
a.When people are saved they are added to the Lord’s church - Acts 2:47
b.He is the head of that one church - Colossians 1:18
c.That one church was purchased with his blood - Acts 20:28
d.He saves that one church - Ephesians 5:23
e.What can be clearer than - Ephesians 4:4. There is one church (seeEphesians 1:22-23 for the definition of body as the church).
3.Yet we have thousands of denominations competing for members, yet saying it doesn’t really matter where you meet.
a.Our brand is just as good as the original, and look at all these things we will throw in that the original doesn’t have.
4.Instead of choosing the church of your choice, why not choose the church of God’s choice?
C.Faith Only
1.Lower the terms or lessen the monthly payments and people will buy a product.
a.People do it for cars and they do it for religion
2.Take a look at the doctrine of salvation by faith only.
a.They discount the need for repentance and especially baptism despite the evidence found in the book of Acts.
b.Salvation, they claim, is at the point of faith. Nothing else is needed.
3.Yet Jesus said we need to obey - Matthew 7:21-23
a.You can believe and call on the Lord and still be lost!
4.Paul said we are justified by faith - Romans 5:1
a.But in the next chapter he continues to say we were made free (saved) by obedience - Romans 6:17-18
b.So when is one justified by faith? When that faith leads one to obedience. - Hebrews 5:9, I Peter 1:22
c.Faith cannot be separated from works - James 2:14-17
d.Faith works through love - Galatians 5:6
D.Salvation without Baptism
1.Think of the religions you know that teach that baptism is not necessary for salvation.
a.Even though they teach it is not necessary, almost everyone still practices some form of baptism. Why is that?
2.Despite the simple and plain teaching of Mark 16:15-16.
3.The examples of the early church affirms this
a.Acts 2:37-38 - Repent and be baptized. What was the result -3,000 were baptized - Acts 2:41
b.Acts 8:12 - When they believed they were baptized
c.The eunuch was baptized - Acts 8:36-38
d.Cornelius’s household was baptized - Acts 10:44-48
e.Lydia and her household - Acts 16:14-15
f.The jailer in Philippi - Acts 16:29-33
4.Why such an emphasis on baptism?
a.It washes away sins - Acts 22:16
b.It puts us into Christ - Galatians 3:26-27
c.It saves us - I peter 3:21
5.Don’t let a discount house of religion offer you a cut rate deal on salvation. They cannot guarantee their product.
a.Salvation is of God. Anything less is a cheap substitute that will not get us into heaven.
b.Sure it takes a little more to be saved God’s way, but it does what it is advertised to do.
E.Once saved always saved
1.Some believe that man is born sinful. As such, he cannot find salvation without the direct intervention of God. The Holy Spirit must operate on a person’s heart enabling him to believe and receive Jesus. Of course, once God has converted a man, it is believed that it is permanent. A man so saved cannot willing choose to sin.
2.This is just another form of bargain religion.
a.Have you ever debated buying a vacuum cleaner? One offers a five-year warranty and other a ten-year warranty. Oh, but this one offers a lifetime guarantee!
(1)You’re tempted to pay just a little bit more because of that security.
(2)You might even be a little bit more careless with the product because after all it is guaranteed.
(3)But then when the product does break, where is the company that made the promise?
b.Some religions offer a lifetime guarantee on salvation.
c.You don’t have to put any effort into maintaining your salvation
3.Sin is the breaking of God’s commandments - I John 3:4
a.We must hold on to the end - Hebrews 3:12-14
b.Some though will draw back into perdition - Hebrews 10:38-29
4.Those who accept this bargain are looking for a religion that takes little effort to maintain.
a.Yet it is this very carelessness that can lead us into trouble - I Corinthians 10:12
b.We have to work on our salvation - Philippians 2:12
III.Religion is not a place to go looking for bargains. Our eternal salvation depends on what we choose. How unfortunate to be reject by our Lord because we thought we could cut corners.
 
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Jackson123

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If they combine two believe system than one of them must sacrifice part of the believe.

Islam does not believe Jesus is God.

Christian believe Jesus is God.

what is Chrislam believe? Jesus God or not.
 
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