Deeper meaning in the fringe
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Jesus does teach from the Torah, but HE also taught how the JEWISH people were blinded by what they THOUGHT the OT said, instead of trying to understand WHY God told them those things.
an example would be the telfilin, another would be the mixing of wool and linen.
its not about mocking anyone who chose to wear tassels. its about missing the point of God's message.
the outward manifestation of one's faith is MORE than just appearances. God tells us to be adorned not with a cross or religious jewelry but with GOOD WORKS.
Not hiding your light under a bushel is NOT about clothes or jewelry but speaking of God with His Truth in your heart and mind. It walking with the Holy Spirit every moment of every day.
It is not fear of anything a Jewish person might do from the Torah but acknowledgement that before Jesus they did things with a veil and misunderstood many scriptures and did not understand what the shadows were meant to represent.
It is calling people to turn from looking at the shadows, looking at the OT with a veil and instead come into the Light and KNOW Jesus Christ as their savior and have His Holy Spirit teach them the Truth behind the scriptures. Instead of the lies and traditions of men that are being taught as God's laws.
an example would be the telfilin, another would be the mixing of wool and linen.
its not about mocking anyone who chose to wear tassels. its about missing the point of God's message.
the outward manifestation of one's faith is MORE than just appearances. God tells us to be adorned not with a cross or religious jewelry but with GOOD WORKS.
Not hiding your light under a bushel is NOT about clothes or jewelry but speaking of God with His Truth in your heart and mind. It walking with the Holy Spirit every moment of every day.
It is not fear of anything a Jewish person might do from the Torah but acknowledgement that before Jesus they did things with a veil and misunderstood many scriptures and did not understand what the shadows were meant to represent.
It is calling people to turn from looking at the shadows, looking at the OT with a veil and instead come into the Light and KNOW Jesus Christ as their savior and have His Holy Spirit teach them the Truth behind the scriptures. Instead of the lies and traditions of men that are being taught as God's laws.
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We shall not judge another by what they practice for the Lord, but if they say it's a must, or should be required with faith of the Torah, then there is a veil, and corruption does follow.
Jesus told us in Matthew that is new wine can't be poured into old wineskins or else they burst, but new wine in new wineskins (v. 9:17). We cannot claim a new man inside but live in the old man outwardly. You must change inside and out, not holding on to the past, but becoming a new creation in all areas in our life.
Jesus told us in Matthew that is new wine can't be poured into old wineskins or else they burst, but new wine in new wineskins (v. 9:17). We cannot claim a new man inside but live in the old man outwardly. You must change inside and out, not holding on to the past, but becoming a new creation in all areas in our life.
Doctrines and traditions of men is definitely the problem. I am not Jewish nor do I hold to oral Torah or man made laws and holidays. The truth behind the scriptures is what I seek. God says His way is to be obeyed and that there are blessings in obedience to His commandments and curses on those who disobey. Do a word search on "for ever" of the scriptures. These are the commandments of GOD that are to be done. I haven't learned perfectly, but through precept upon precept, line upon line, I apply the commandments through His grace. Talk about veils!
Torah is not just LAW. These first five books weave a story of God's chosen nation and God's instructions and God's government. They 12 tribes failed miserably after promising to do all God said to do. God divorced the house of Israel and through Yeshua and the giving of the Holy Spirit we can have God's way written on our hearts so that we bear righteous fruit and of the root of our salvation is in Yeshua. Being Torah obedient and grace dependent is what I am. I am a new woman.
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Let that be your conviction if the Lord wills, and please explain how he "divorced" Israel, what exactly do you implore in that context? But you are right the Torah isn't just about law, but you see I'm speaking of the law in the Torah. Now friend if you believe in Y'shua hamasiach as the Savior and are saved by the faith in the Lord as the word prescribes, then your saved. But for teachings don't push it to someone who is weaker in this God did not will in others. Happy is he who does not condemn himself in what he approves. Romans 14:22c NASB
I think your mind is getting mixed up with doing, and as you talk so against doing you say all doing is legalism. Is that it? It is strange that the word legalism is always brought up if anyone mentions any effort to do for God.
I wonder that someone speaks as if it would be impossible to do good and wear a fringe at the same time! Could a fringe stop doing good? Or remind them to do good.
God is the Father, we are the children. I can just hear a Father saying to go put a string on your finger to remind you to go to the store and the kid saying you know, Dad, a string on my finger stops me from going to the store. I don't think a father is going to buy that.
I wonder that someone speaks as if it would be impossible to do good and wear a fringe at the same time! Could a fringe stop doing good? Or remind them to do good.
God is the Father, we are the children. I can just hear a Father saying to go put a string on your finger to remind you to go to the store and the kid saying you know, Dad, a string on my finger stops me from going to the store. I don't think a father is going to buy that.
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i don't see a problem with this as long as it is accompanied by a proper understanding of the gospel of salvation by grace through faith...
in other words...as long as a person doesn't do this based on the mistaken idea that they and others are -required- to do it...
i know that there are several traditional ways of tying the tassels...i wonder if you could tie one so that it is in the shape of a cross...
in other words...as long as a person doesn't do this based on the mistaken idea that they and others are -required- to do it...
i know that there are several traditional ways of tying the tassels...i wonder if you could tie one so that it is in the shape of a cross...
K
The differences in how the approvers and the disapprovers understand the English language is more extreme than anything I have seen talking to people from Australia, South Africa, New Zealand, Spain, UK, Malaysia, Liberia and Ghana put together. How one person can see a path to Jesus in a tallit, and another see only sin is quite incredible.