Discipline vs. Punishment

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machew

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This is something I wrote on another forum that I thought would be good to discuss here. :)

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The purpose of confrontation of sin is not to punish a person, but to help them realize again who they are in Christ, because in order to desire sin, you have to believe a lie about your identity and who you are. As a Christian, if you sin, it is because you are using it as a coping mechanism to deal with a wound in your heart(whether aware of it or not). In order to have not been healed of this wound, you have to believe a lie about yourself, God, or other people. Once you truly realize who you are, your identity in Christ, you rarely think about sinning because you no longer have any desire to or feel a need to. The goal is not to get someone not to sin, but to completely change the way they normally think(the definition of repentance). Repentance doesn't only mean being sorry for sin, but actually changing the way you think to the way God thinks. It is truly believing God's truth that sets you free from all unrighteousness through the blood of Jesus.

Punishing someone only disempowers the person in shame to not be able to truly deal with what is going on in their heart. If you punish the person now they are dealing with shame and guilt on top of dealing with their sin. Punishment brings about guilt and shame which is why it is not the correct way of dealing with sin. Discipline and punishment are not synonymous. Discipline pulls on a person to come closer and to learn from their mistake. Punishment alienates a person from the Punisher and hurts the relationship between them. The natural impulse when you are punished is to separate yourself from the Punisher. When someone disciplines you, your natural impulse is to reconcile the relationship. This is why it says that God disciplines those He Loves. Discipline is only possible in the context of a Loving relationship. Punishment can happen without a Love relationship. The only context that punish was ever used in the Bible was for sin under the Old Covenant. Punishment was a requirement of their covenant if they sinned. But we aren't in that covenant anymore. And since our sins are atoned for by the blood of Jesus, God no longer has any need nor desire to punish us, though He still disciplines us to get us back on the right track. Do you see the distinction between the two?

Blessings,

Machew
 
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Mich223

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I agree discipline is better than punishment.
Proverbs 29:15 (King James Version)


15The rod and reproof give wisdom: but a child left to himself bringeth his mother to shame.



It is better to reprove and discipline than to punish which may alienate a Christian. Since Jesus freely forgave us our sins, as Christians we should follow his example
 
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machew

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I agree discipline is better than punishment.
Proverbs 29:15 (King James Version)


15The rod and reproof give wisdom: but a child left to himself bringeth his mother to shame.



It is better to reprove and discipline than to punish which may alienate a Christian. Since Jesus freely forgave us our sins, as Christians we should follow his example
Very true Mich223. Unfortunately many Christians believe God deals with the sin of Christians like He did with the Jews in the Old Covenant. It is an unfortunate point of view that keeps many Christians from being close to God.

Blessings,

Machew
 
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No, as clearly outlined here, if you love your child, you will not spare the rod. If you hate your child, you will spare the rod. If any disagrees with these following verses, you disagree with God for 2 Timothy 3:16 tells me all scripture is God inspired.

Proverbs 23:13 Withhold not correction from the child: for if thou beatest him with the rod, he shall not die.

Proverbs 23:14 Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and shalt deliver his soul from hell.

Proverbs 19:18 Chasten thy son while there is hope, and let not thy soul spare for his crying.

Proverbs 13:24 He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes.