Do prosperity gospel/Christian Science believers affect society with corona virus due to their belief system?

[kaylagrl]

My conviction is that wishy-washy people do not properly convey their disagreement with faulty theology.

Don't have to be wishy washy, but you don't have to be an arrogant jerk either.

I am not dominated by females and their views.

Yes, your "single" under marital status says it all. Charming personality on full display here. As I said, I can see why you're no longer in prison ministry. Everyone is against you, any point slightly different from yours is wrong, and a chip on your shoulder about women. I don't know who did you wrong. You mentioned you were in a cult, it seems to affect you more than you understand. Everyone is your enemy, everyone is out to get you, everyone is wrong but you. You need to stay out of ministry, you'll do more damage then help. Very temperamental and unstable. Full time ministry is not for people with your type of issues.

I think females have resulted in deterioration of Christianity,

In what manner? Most churches have male pastors, male board members, male leadership. How have women taken down the whole of Christianity? I'd be interested to hear your take on that...

....because they are susceptible to deception, just as their mother Eve was.
Paul holds this view himself, and expresses it in 1 Tim 2:14 and Adam was not deceived, but the woman was deceived and became a transgressor.

Are you saying Adam didn't sin?! Yes, she was deceived, what was his excuse?!

Women in the charismatic world rule the roost. I totally reject this type of equality. I believe in complementarianism, and not egalitarianism.

This is merely your POV. How many Charismatic women do you personally know?? Personally. This is a chip on your shoulder, I don't know why, perhaps some woman in your past, don't take it out on the rest of us huh.

In this context, I suppose the site promotes egalitarianism. I totally reject it.

Then why are you here?! If you mean women are to shut up every time you give an opinion, then you're right, you're in the wrong place. I don't how old you are, but you are incredibly immature.

Because it is not biblical, and I will not be drug into error by feminine weaknesses to temptation.

Don't worry about it, no woman isn't going to drag you anywhere near temptation.

At the same time, I will acknowledge that many Christian sisters are under proper submission to male leadership, so my issue is not with them.

I'm sure they are very grateful.

 

[Blade]

Well praise God I will not be part of this. This "positive confession" Right from the start is not true means its a lie. I don't any that think like this. And those that did.. hello you can find on YOUTUBE a video BY those "word of faith preachers (sorry to say prosperity gospel would be lying for me. And its just to hurt them. Well if THEY say "prosperity Gospel is not in the bible and they do not agree with it. Then I must respect their words.)

So anyone can find a video on youtube from those word of faith preachers saying " Positive confession is the practice of saying aloud what you want to happen with the expectation that God will make it a reality. It’s popular among prosperity gospel adherents who claim that words have spiritual power and that, if we speak aloud the right words with the right faith, we can gain riches and health, bind Satan, and accomplish anything we want. " <---this is not right.. they do not agree for its not based on the word of God.

Positive confession.. please.. we all do it. No one when your scared or getting sick says "The bible says God has not given me the spirit of fear but of power and love and a sound mind. And by the strips of Jesus I am healed. My bothers Peter and John said its FAITH IN THAT NAME". And Christ is ALWAYS true and positive. Your confession.. the WORLD knows this. Any great man/woman of this world .. hang around them. You won't hear any negative thing. Its ALWAYS positive.

No.. how about those that "I always get sick by the flu every year" "every spring I always get a cold". I can never get this.. I can never do that.. on and on. Even DOCTORS will tell you to SPEAK positive. And if you knew your word Christ ALWAYS kicked out those that doubted.

So you confess His word.. the virus going around.. what do YOU speak? Me "No evil shall befall you, Nor shall any plague come near your dwelling;"

We can any time share our fruits. See what I learned.. I was 14 or so. No internet so in my view its THEM that agree with me. I can show you my 1st bible.. SO much of it is marked up. I asked the woman in the bible study WHY .. she said thats God talking to you. So.. what did I do? I read those verses as if JESUS was talking to me right there. ANYTHING in it.. I just believed. And things ALWAYS happen. He is always on. I learned you just believe His word.. you speak His word. NEVER for self.. you never ever ever take the credit nor thanks. You are very happen with never being noticed.. nor being right. He is

You learn Word of faith are HIS kids all the way to Baptist. Or Catholics(can't be right about Jesus just wrong about Mary?).. on and on. I can tell you the GOOD things word of faith preachers do.. Baptist do. If I think they in error..I have my Fathers ear.. and He can do anything.. I will not toss ANYONE under the bus

 

[7seasrekeyed]

I think you should get your mind off prosperity gospel people and put your mind on JESUS. Alot of your threads constantly bag them. Perhaps you should spend that time learning about Jesus. What others believe is none of your business and telling them they are WRONG is not going to change their minds.

I would give you 5 more of those little badges if I could

you nailed it with this guy

 

[7seasrekeyed]

Finally, the Bible is very clear that "negative confession" does not negate God’s blessings. The Psalms are filled with cries to God for deliverance, and Psalm 55:22 and 1 Peter 5:7 exhort us follow that example. Even Jesus went before the Heavenly Father with a clear eye on the situation and a request for aid (Matthew 26:39). The God of the Bible is not a cosmic Santa Claus (James 4:1-3). He is a loving Father who wants to be involved in His children’s lives—the good and the bad. It is when we humble ourselves and ask for help that He gives us either release from the circumstances or strength to get through them.

if only you understood what it is to actually be a Christian instead of a flaming Calvinist

God is not the Bible and reformed beliefs are not biblical with regards to the belief that God created some for tinder and fuel for the fire.

crying out for help is not some sort of confession and most people do not believe they create reality with their words. if anyone does actually believe that however, it would be you and others of your ilk, because if repetition is any indication, then you would win every single time with your childish hatred of what you will never experience unless God has mercy on you and gives you the gift of repentance

perhaps one day you will meet the cosmic Calvin and you will hate him for lying to you

 

[Blain]

Unitedwithchrist, I only saw you have said just now as it has been a while since I last came to this thread and I have a bone to pick with you. I am not one offended or angered easily in fact it takes quite a lot but you have acted and spoken in such an arrogant uncalled for and unchrist like manner that I am afraid I cannot be silent.

Your responses to everyone here is not only unchrist like but absolutely infuriating. The one thing that infuriates me is when one who claims to be of God but shows otherwise and insults and attacks other believers. You will show everyone here respect and humble yourself if you are to continue debating in this forum or I will NOT hesitate to report you to the admins. Regardless of your views if you cannot restrain yourself then I will not show mercy to your uncalled for actions and ask anyone here who knows me I am a very loving and patient person it is extremely rare for me to even speak harshly to anyone.
I could care less if this was all directed to me but when you act so hateful and arrogent to others here that is the line you do not want to cross with me.


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[wattie]

In a lot of towns here Walmart is the only place that sells groceries,or needed drugs.

Oh I see.. yeah Walmart is pretty huge there. The Warehouse here wouldn't sell as much stuff. No pharmacy stuff at the Warehouse.

Cheers

 

[Blain]

I apologize to everyone for my outburst I have calmed down now and if I was in the wrong then I apologize to unitedforchrist as well and I also do apologize to unitedforchrist for responding in the way I did as well I should have gone about it another way

 

[breno785au]

No, I do believe however if the United States were actually still a Nation who wholeheartedly believed in God that we, for the most part, would be exempt to some degree of what is going to clearly happen. How can you blame specific beliefs, when our own "government" who claims to be a Nation under God, has allowed the Murder of Millions (Billions) of aborted babies, has allowed same sex to be equal to what God specified for a man and a woman, who has removed the Ten Commandments from public places, who ordered schools to both stop praying and to saying the Pledge of Allegiance, and who continues to Deny God in almost every facet of Authority?

Freedom of Speech is based upon censorship, the 2nd Amendment is based upon intolerable rules, and once we go to a "cashless society," Churches will no longer be tax exempt so the Government can control what is being given and what that is being spent on.

This virus is a Plague that kills, wrecks money markets, crashes economies, and has erased the sense of hope. This has nothing to do with "False Teachings," but more to do with a Nation who has turned its back on Almighty God!

People say this about Australia too, that we turn our back to God. I say it's hard to turn your back to Him when you were never facing Him in the first place.

 

[Blain]

People say this about Australia too, that we turn our back to God. I say it's hard to turn your back to Him when you were never facing Him in the first place.

Well you do live.... downunder
Aside from the bad pun I would love to visit Australia someday I mean I can't stand the heat and my dry skin would kill me but I love the Australian accent it is also hilarious when some of them are so drunk they can't speak right it just cracks me up

 

[breno785au]

Well you do live.... downunder
Aside from the bad pun I would love to visit Australia someday I mean I can't stand the heat and my dry skin would kill me but I love the Australian accent it is also hilarious when some of them are so drunk they can't speak right it just cracks me up

In that case March-April is the best time to visit... Melbourne as least.

 

[Blain]

In that case March-April is the best time to visit... Melbourne as least.

I remember watching kangaroo jack as a kid and I fell in love with the accent have you ever seen that movie?

 

[breno785au]

I remember watching kangaroo jack as a kid and I fell in love with the accent have you ever seen that movie?

I don't think Australians watch that movie

 

[Blain]

I don't think Australians watch that movie

Well it was movie I watched over and over again as kid but it made me fearfully aware of how strong a kangaroos kick is like wow no ty

 

[Absolutely]

I just do not get what you guys think Is so bad about calling out false teaching when it is seem.

I was told , on here, multiple times from different people that " you who go to church on sun. are worshiping the sun god nimrod".
so, when you see non-sense like that, do you just go " oh , that is interesting " , and move on. or do you call it out.

if the o.p , experienced what he said he did ( which, based on the many " Christians " that believe in junk like that}, I think he did, then he was right.

and should not be criticized for calling it out. he did the right thing.

They do in fact enjoy a camaraderie here.
It's like this place is a expose banquet,ever searching for the next full gospel hiccup.

But that is ok. Let them as the leadership here agrees with you.

My personal beef is your and others winking at his demonization of good christian men like myself.

He broadens his attacks into attacking me as well.

So this board agrees with personal attacks.

By you promoting him,it kinda reminds me of the old saying
"5 rattlesnakes are in the basement....how many do you kill?"

By supporting him,you become part of the incubator to grow his venom.

For example;
How far would I get transposing all baptists into yarborough legalistic poisonous heretics?

And what if this site winked at it and kinda helped me along?
What a great party and ministry!!!!

Uh no.
Even if I "got away with it" what is my spiritual outcome?
And what possible motive?

It is not exposing
It is a sickness.
Cunningly masked.
The devil is cunning.

 

[Absolutely]

You don't pitch in to every Pentecostal/ Charismatic/WOF person. Can anyone here be a grown up? I have a friend who is a WOF preacher. I don't agree with everything he teaches, but he is a wonderful Christian. He has prayed my family through so many things. We have ministered together and he has a great heart for God. He has a missionary outreach to Russia and has traveled there over the years ministering to the poor and the children. How many here would be willing to do that?Over the years we have talked and many of the things he was hardcore WOF on has changed. He's now in his twilight years and soon to be ready to go home to be with his dear wife. And when he does I have no doubt that God will say "well done my good and faithful servant". The problem with the vast majority of people here is they have never gone out past their own church door, never been challenged, never fellowshipped with other denominations. An old Christian singer that many here might know said "the older I get the more people I'm letting into heaven". Well said!! Won't many here who are so dogmatic and full of hate for their Christian brothers/sisters ( not you) be surprised when they have not won a crown of life, as they love playing the victim, and it's passed to someone of another denomination they hate. smh So childish.

One of my best friends is wof

The other night a black widow spider bit me while sleeping.
I could barely function.
It effects your whole body.
I called upon my friend for help.
He prayed for me.

No joke,about 15 min later ALL SYMPTONS REVERSED.
It was night and day difference.

God is a big God.
The men of God that someone could call and have such results are very few.

I have such a blessing knowing this friend of mine.

Thank God he was taught by the best. Kenneth Hagin.
Bless the mighty Name Of Jesus.

 

[Absolutely]

He is alive and RISEN IN POWER.

HE IS ALIVE.
HE DID NOT CEASE.

 

[Dave-L]

One of my best friends is wof

The other night a black widow spider bit me while sleeping.
I could barely function.
It effects your whole body.
I called upon my friend for help.
He prayed for me.

No joke,about 15 min later ALL SYMPTONS REVERSED.
It was night and day difference.

God is a big God.
The men of God that someone could call and have such results are very few.

I have such a blessing knowing this friend of mine.

Thank God he was taught by the best. Kenneth Hagin.
Bless the mighty Name Of Jesus.

The prayer of faith heals. Not Kenneth Hagin.