Does God lie or contradict Himself?

[fredjames]

Peace be with you, in the new contract (New Covenant) GOD the FATHER of our LORD JESUS CHRIST made with us, it is written in the book of Galatians that;
"You harvest want you plant and you reap what you sow."

Even in the old contract (Old Covenant), Moses reminded the congregation of Israel before he disappeared, that; "GOD is your complete healer, ' if ' you obey HIS commandments,............................................................."

In the new contract (New Covenant) LORD JESUS CHRIST said as HE was healing the people of Israel, that;
"When an evil spirit leaves a body of a person, it goes into the wilderness looking for a place to dwell. And when it finds no place, it returns back to its former dwelling and when it finds out that it is swept clean and remain empty, it goes and calls seven or twelve spirit worst off than it and together they come and dwell again in it's former place and that person will be worst off than before."

That is why in relation to this in the Gospel, LORD JESUS CHRIST reminds those HE have healed and restored that;
'Your sins are forgiven and see that you sin no more, so that something worst will not happen to you."

Another thing that the HOLY SPIRIT reminds us from HIS Scriptures is;
"JESUS said to the Jews who have believe/faith in HIM. 'If' you 'abide' in my 'words' (Teachings), you are my disciples and you will know the truth and the truth shall set you free. ..................................................................................... and when the SON sets you free, you are free."

As it is also written in book of Hebrews ch. 12, that;
"If GOD corrects you, do not be discouraged and when GOD chastise you, do take light of it. ..............................GOD 'corrects' the one HE loves."

Truthfully the contradictions is in our own 'self' living and understanding about the Kingdom of GOD and not by the help from the HOLY SPIRIT the Teacher of Living Scriptures of the New Covenant. So that by the spiritual discernment of SPIRITUAL Teachings that called us to abide/continue/keep/etc. so that we will bear fruit, as we practice and understand them diligently in our everyday life with the fear of GOD, who have called us through HIS Word (CHRIST who spoke the Living Words to impart True Life), to 'abide' in them (New Testament's documented Words of True Life Teachings of LORD JESUS CHRIST, that to be put into practice, in order to be called by the same Living Words as a wise builder, who dig down deep through sand and lay his house on the rock/stone which is the strong foundation of the Kingdom of GOD).

This is all from our LORD JESUS CHRIST (author and finisher of our faith) through our Truth Helper and Teacher the HOLY SPIRIT, given for us by the shedding of HIS blood and HIS saints, as the New Covenant of GOD, who even to this present age, makes the same with HIS renewed people everyday, who have been called and have come through GOD's given initial gift, 'by Grace through faith' and also called them to continue in order for them to add/supplement to their faith further more to excel, whom since after HIS resurrection have gone away to be crowned as KING of Kings and LORD of Lords and to come back the second time to welcome HIS virgin brides.

Also reminder from the HOLY SPIRIT Scripturally that Apostle Paul mentioned about those who murmur, complain and grumble as Christian, as the Israelites did to Moses in the desert. In action to restore orderly conduct in obedient manner in the beginning itself, he continue to remind the church the consequences recorded then that can also happen now to believers of the Way (Christian).

Are we gloomy and sad together confessing forgiveness and mercy and praying for one another's sins for the things CHRIST called us to do as, first ("Seek ye 'first' the Kingdom of GOD and HIS righteousness...........")and we have not continue to do so, that is first in sound doctrine knowledge and it's practices, as how CHRIST, the Apostles and the believers who establish an orderly church by their given Words, from disorder and completed the New Covenant, agreeing as the bread and wine (Holy Communion) we share in faith and acknowledgement to the truth. In relation to this, we must also, as a reminder consider Apostle Paul's concern about those as a church some partake this Communion in an unworthily manner and the consequences they have faced from GOD as a living reminder to our living faith.

Apostle Peter in his epistle reminds the church; "There are those who suffer for doing right and there are those who suffer for doing wrong."

Today the church do not share these important truth as a reminder and a stir up of our Holy Bible memory anymore. They believe it will hard on believers and believers might give up and this is not concern love and commitment but compromising shame on leaders including me. As it is written in the Gospel about compromisers; "They became men pleaser rather than GOD pleaser."
Apostle Paul prepared young Timothy by saying in his epistle to Timothy to continue for him for CHRIST that beware of itching ears and do not please them in GOD's message in what they are longing to hear. Fight a good fight. As a carnal person i may consider this instructions to fight one's enemy but spiritually, Apostle Paul's experiences how he had to struggle to bring the church to the Kingdom one order as a Body of CHRIST whether they like it or not, whether they stay not. Truth teaches us that their labor of sufferings were not for only quantity but further continue in building and edifying for quality and choosing overseer in keeping quality control for them who labor for CHRIST, hence forth producing little saints as true witnesses of them and 'the Way', in faith even to the laying down of their lives, even during the trial times of Emperor Nero,
still abiding in the Word of the New Covenant.

Is the church today nor it's future generation (fruits) nor i are fully trained and are fully equipped in the inspired all Scriptures, ready for Tribulation (rule of anti-CHRIST). GOD did not spare HIS only begotten one during persecution nor HIS church during persecution in the time of Emperor Nero. Then how is it the church during the time of anti-CHRIST is spared and taken up just like that?

As it is written; "Every foundation will be tested with fire."

They will be tested with fire as this is the will of GOD according to HIS Word, in order to refine their purity, whether they are in faith, either hot or cold or lukewarm.

As it is written; "..........because of HIS elects, GOD shortens the Tribulation period from seven years to three and a half years." (a reminder of a horrible persecution of GOD's people for their faith) ​

Also to add to this, as it is written and we know that anti-CHRIST have not emerge yet in the world but it is mentioned that his spirit is already here. If we want to see and know the glimpse of it's actions today in order for us to get ready, is to go to 'You Tube'. Type in; 'Christian persecution in North Korea'.

For our information, faithful North Koreans believe that their Emperor is their only True God they must worship and among their people those who bow down to other GOD will be persecuted, They will not be pardoned if they do not denounce them. They and their family will be thrown into labor camps and tortured, may be day and night for their faith in CHRIST.

"Please consider today, still called as the beloved ones of CHRIST that, Will they, are the true ones will be 'taken up' or we who challenge, debate, argue, ridiculing, condemning, pinion headed, bossy, enjoying, slumber partying, etc. acting lawless towards one another everyday will be 'taken up', even though we die today?"

As the true story goes on that, You may agree or you may disagree that there is a similarity about anti-CHRIST rule and the North Korea dictator's rule in the spirit of anti-CHRIST, a carnal man as God and his government and people, naked to our very spiritual eyes as truth evidence to what is to come in the future for our brothers and sisters and we who think we will not live to face it, be carefully aware that, have we build others now in awareness to all that is written for witnessing, so that they may be also truth witnesses to others and on and on because the time to come will be "Lawlessness!". 'To them, the world then, crimes done against Christian are just. We will be defenseless.'

Also to add to all of this, in the book of Revelations, the people who stood under the Heavenly altar of the LORD crying out to JESUS for justice, who HE called them to change their garments and rest awhile, were the ones 'taken up', who have undergone persecution for the Gospel sake. Why? Note that their righteous garments were stained with blood. Do you see by the help of the HOLY SPIRIT that in-between Tribulation and the Great Tribulation the 'taken up' will happen?

 

[JesusLives]

NO. God can't lie because He can not sin. It is our messed up minds that don't understand God's ways or His thoughts. We are the sinful contradictive ones. Not God. Besides the Bible says that Satan is the Father of lies.

 

[Cyress]

Sin is rejecting Gods ways; for the most part thats what people consider "bad" and, more importantly what God considers bad. So can God reject his own ways? If God cant sin, He cant contradict himself.

 

[fredjames]

Peace be with you, and may GOD the FATHER our LORD JESUS CHRIST who blesses you all with kindness and peace say;

'Freely freely i receive spiritual Holy Scriptural reminder, freely freely in order to serve, i share with you as a witness to all of them, using the given gift of Scripture wisdom, in order to explain what these Truth filled reminders mean for all who have continued in sound doctrine faith and able to recognize them as of our MESSIAH's.'

'So let us stop being proud but be sober minded knowing the Living Truth, so in gloomy and sadness, further without failure, come boldly to the Throne of Grace, where we have a GREAT HIGH PRIEST who can sympathize on us and where we will find help in all our weaknesses.'

'Let us therefore confess truthfully, based accordingly to the Living Truth of the New Covenant and no point in continuing blaming others and satan for our own selfish feelings and desire's mistakes and mess ups.'

'We who have been called, redeemed, taught by GOD in the HOLY SPIRIT, sent to live in us, given by CHRIST to be our Truth Helper (the Trinity action as one GOD, who reign over all, who wants to reach out using us as witnesses, in order also to save others) and sanctified us, to diligently be the ones who should have known better in Kingdom performance, not to fall prey into their trap of their dead lives of lies and deceit.'

'And they when GOD's time comes will also be judged accordingly. Meanwhile GOD in CHRIST by the Help of the HOLY SPIRIT, calls us to patiently endure righteousness.'

'So be encouraged, for the throne of Grace and Truth (CHRIST) welcomes anyone who hears HIS voice, to turn back while he or she can.'

'May the blessed and merciful GOD the FATHER of our LORD JESUS CHRIST, restore and bless you in HIS standards through CHRIST's Righteousness by the Help of the HOLY SPIRIT, the inseparable Trinity New Testament powerful action from ancient days, till yesterday, until today, further tomorrow and forever and ever further most without end, Amen.'

 

[Kerim]

This reminds me a similar question I asked myself when I became professional in electronics. Did my teachers at school lie? Let us see together if they did or not by exploring the following example.

First, when I was less than 8, we were told
"Two straights are said parallel if they don't intersect”.

Later, when we started learning 'space geometry', it became clear that this definition is no more valid. It was updated by adding to it
"... and are on the same plane".

But at the university, we had to learn the perspective geometry in order to
draw perspective images. The definition had to be updated completely. It says
"Two straights are said parallel if they INTERSECT at infinity".

Naturally, this complete last definition let the two previous ones be obsolete for the professionals in science but not for the coming kids. I mean my
teachers at school didn't lie though most of what they taught me is now obsolete to me.

In brief, before Christ, people were rather like the little kids of humanity. God addressed them during many centuries as we teach our little kids.
Jesus took a flesh and came to us to update, once for all, all what we like to know about ourselves, the world and our Creator (it is supposed that, after Jesus time, most men on earth are evolved enough hence are no more the little kids of humanity).

To complete the subject I like adding the following fact.
A loving father raises his kids based on rules (as in Judaism) to help them be clean and safe as long as possible. Then, when his children become mature adults, he just gives them the necessary knowledge and advices (to be followed or not) to help them join (if they like) the REAL peace and joy he lives.