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Ali22

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To me, the discusssion of whether mental illnesses exist has nothing to do with religiosity or spirituality. It is based on science. As a psychology student, I do not simply memorize information but also critically analyze it. I do not doubt the fact that people suffer throughout the world but to group a series of behaviors and call it an illness is unethical taxonomy at its best. What made the APA include homosexuality as a mental disorder since their conception and exclude it in 1973? There was no scientific reason. It was considered deviant and now it is considered normal. Look at hysteria and how they used to diagnose females who acted rebelliously towards their husbands. Or drapetomania which was diagnosed when dark-skinned slaves ran away from their masters.
 

Elizabeth619

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#22
To me, the discusssion of whether mental illnesses exist has nothing to do with religiosity or spirituality. It is based on science. As a psychology student, I do not simply memorize information but also critically analyze it. I do not doubt the fact that people suffer throughout the world but to group a series of behaviors and call it an illness is unethical taxonomy at its best. What made the APA include homosexuality as a mental disorder since their conception and exclude it in 1973? There was no scientific reason. It was considered deviant and now it is considered normal. Look at hysteria and how they used to diagnose females who acted rebelliously towards their husbands. Or drapetomania which was diagnosed when dark-skinned slaves ran away from their masters.
Let me guess... you took a few psych courses and now you know all about psychology.
 
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Ali22

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#23
I like your sense of humor.
 

loveme1

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Mark 3

But Jesus withdrew himself with his disciples to the sea: and a great multitude from Galilee followed him, and from Judaea, 8And from Jerusalem, and from Idumaea, and from beyond Jordan; and they about Tyre and Sidon, a great multitude, when they had heard what great things he did, came unto him. 9And he spake to his disciples, that a small ship should wait on him because of the multitude, lest they should throng him. 10For he had healed many; insomuch that they pressed upon him for to touch him, as many as had plagues. 11And unclean spirits, when they saw him, fell down before him, and cried, saying, Thou art the Son of God. 12And he straitly charged them that they should not make him known.

13And he goeth up into a mountain, and calleth unto him whom he would: and they came unto him. 14And he ordained twelve, that they should be with him, and that he might send them forth to preach, 15And to have power to heal sicknesses, and to cast out devils: 16And Simon he surnamed Peter; 17And James the son of Zebedee, and John the brother of James; and he surnamed them Boanerges, which is, The sons of thunder: 18And Andrew, and Philip, and Bartholomew, and Matthew, and Thomas, and James the son of Alphaeus, and Thaddaeus, and Simon the Canaanite, 19And Judas Iscariot, which also betrayed him: and they went into an house.

20And the multitude cometh together again, so that they could not so much as eat bread. 21And when his friends heard of it, they went out to lay hold on him: for they said, He is beside himself. 22And the scribes which came down from Jerusalem said, He hath Beelzebub, and by the prince of the devils casteth he out devils. 23And he called them unto him, and said unto them in parables, How can Satan cast out Satan? 24And if a kingdom be divided against itself, that kingdom cannot stand. 25And if a house be divided against itself, that house cannot stand. 26And if Satan rise up against himself, and be divided, he cannot stand, but hath an end. 27No man can enter into a strong man's house, and spoil his goods, except he will first bind the strong man; and then he will spoil his house.

Nothing new under the sun....

Man can comfort himself with psychology studies.

I'm content to be labelled crazy by those of this world....
 
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The problem is that there was never a case for such a thing as "the mind" until about 1900, before then what we now call the mind was part and parcel of "the heart." No one even knew what the brain was until the middle ages with some illicit cutting on some cadavers. Frankly it was impossible for a 1st century person to understand the concept of mental illness so it was never reported as such.

Too many people here are choosing ignorance over science and that is sad.
 

loveme1

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#26
How would this man of been diagnosed?

What did Yahshua the Messiah do?

That is my con"science" on these matters.




Mark 5


And they came over unto the other side of the sea, into the country of the Gadarenes. 2And when he was come out of the ship, immediately there met him out of the tombs a man with an unclean spirit, 3Who had his dwelling among the tombs; and no man could bind him, no, not with chains: 4Because that he had been often bound with fetters and chains, and the chains had been plucked asunder by him, and the fetters broken in pieces: neither could any man tame him. 5And always, night and day, he was in the mountains, and in the tombs, crying, and cutting himself with stones. 6But when he saw Jesus afar off, he ran and worshipped him, 7And cried with a loud voice, and said, What have I to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of the most high God? I adjure thee by God, that thou torment me not. 8For he said unto him, Come out of the man, thou unclean spirit. 9And he asked him, What is thy name? And he answered, saying, My name is Legion: for we are many. 10And he besought him much that he would not send them away out of the country. 11Now there was there nigh unto the mountains a great herd of swine feeding. 12And all the devils besought him, saying, Send us into the swine, that we may enter into them. 13And forthwith Jesus gave them leave. And the unclean spirits went out, and entered into the swine: and the herd ran violently down a steep place into the sea, (they were about two thousand;) and were choked in the sea.
14And they that fed the swine fled, and told it in the city, and in the country. And they went out to see what it was that was done. 15And they come to Jesus, and see him that was possessed with the devil, and had the legion, sitting, and clothed, and in his right mind: and they were afraid. 16And they that saw it told them how it befell to him that was possessed with the devil, and also concerning the swine. 17And they began to pray him to depart out of their coasts. 18And when he was come into the ship, he that had been possessed with the devil prayed him that he might be with him. 19Howbeit Jesus suffered him not, but saith unto him, Go home to thy friends, and tell them how great things the Lord hath done for thee, and hath had compassion on thee. 20And he departed, and began to publish in Decapolis how great things Jesus had done for him: and all men did marvel.
 
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jimmydiggs

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#27
Frankly it was impossible for a 1st century person to understand the concept of mental illness so it was never reported as such.
I wouldn't be saying that about Jesus if I were you.