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dee133

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#1
I am so discouraged that discouraged seems a small word for how I'm feeling. My family is a mess. My brother ended a 29 year marriage, his ex-wife and children are angry at me for misconceptions on their part. My brother took up with a prostitute and started doing drugs with her. My dad took him in and he and my mother have been divorced for 25 + years and he is a nut case. There's so much damage all around me and my family is very religious. I've developed a picture of hipocrisy and am very confused as to the truth of it all. I don't feel loved and I don't see that Christian people love others at all. I'm just so down about it all. The conflicts are all tangled up with different ones throwing Bible verses at each other. It's maddening. Can any help?
 
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songster

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#2
When the word of God becomes a weapon used against others, the only thing that remains are ‘offenses’. When the knowledge of offenses fills, the love of God is absent. The Holy Spirit, according to Romans 5:5, is the one who sheds the love of God in our hearts.

(Matthew 24:12) When wickedness increases, love can grow cold. An environment where offenses abound, gives way to unforgiveness, bitterness and strife, and as a believer you know that God cannot operate in that environment. It is satan who comes to steal, to kill and to destroy.

Forgiveness is difficult and it is even more difficult to stay prayerful under such confusing and physically draining circumstances, but it only takes one person to pray and believe God for divine intervention. It only takes one person to develop enough insight to see through the confusion the enemy is stirring up. God is able to bring order out of chaos. I empathize with you, but I also encourage you not to judge, but to pray, not to retaliate, but to forgive.

In these situations, God always looks for one faithful person who seeks wisdom and has a willing heart to resist what the devil is doing, and to reflect the nature and character of Christ. God is faithful and I’m convinced that as you pray, God will not abandon you.

Ephesians 6:10

Be strong in the Lord and in His mighty power. Put on the full armor of God so that you can take your stand against the devil's schemes. For our struggle is not against flesh and blood....
 
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concernedguy

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#3
I am so discouraged that discouraged seems a small word for how I'm feeling. My family is a mess. My brother ended a 29 year marriage, his ex-wife and children are angry at me for misconceptions on their part. My brother took up with a prostitute and started doing drugs with her. My dad took him in and he and my mother have been divorced for 25 + years and he is a nut case. There's so much damage all around me and my family is very religious. I've developed a picture of hipocrisy and am very confused as to the truth of it all. I don't feel loved and I don't see that Christian people love others at all. I'm just so down about it all. The conflicts are all tangled up with different ones throwing Bible verses at each other. It's maddening. Can any help?



My brother ended a 29 year marriage, his ex-wife and
children are angry at me for misconceptions on their part.


They are adults and are responsible for their own decisions.
No marriage breaks up over something someone said. It breaks
up because those in the marriage are looking for a way out
and use what another said to justify it. You may feel you are
responsible especially if they are saying you are. But you are
not!
I can't think of one thing anyone could say that would cause
me to turn on my wife. There are no misunderstandings that
cause a divorce. Usually the parties involved know the
reasons.

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My brother took up with a prostitute and started
doing drugs with her.


This would never happen unless a desire was already there
before their marriage broke down. Another indicator that it
is not your fault.

____

There's so much damage all around me and my
family is very religious.


Please don't take this wrong. But religious people act like
you have stated above. Religious people point fingers at
each other and use God's Word as a weapon. Christians do
not do this. Christ scolded the religious leaders of His day for
doing all the right things but their hearts were far from Him.

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I've developed a picture of hypocrisy and am very
confused as to the truth of it all. I don't feel loved
and I don't see that Christian people love others at
all. I'm just so down about it all. The conflicts are
all tangled up with different ones throwing Bible
verses at each other.


I can understand how you can feel the way you do. But don't
allow the way your family acts to change your impression of
Christians. Your family is not being very Christ-like.
They are fighting with each other and not talking to each
other in love to work it out.
No Christian would ever leave their family and go to be
with a prostitute. God would never approve of this.

Your family may claim to be religious but appear to be as
worldly as the religious leaders that put Jesus on the cross.
Religious leaders Christ came to save but couldn't because
they were following their own way and not Christ's Way.

Your view of things can certainly get clouded when surrounded
by all the things you are surrounded by. But keep in mind,
none of these things would be happening if your family were
in fact Christians seeking and following Christ's directions.

A self-professed, self-centered Christian can hide their true
colors as long as things are going their way. It is when
things go bad, that you see who they really are. Since your
family is not seeking Christ to resolve their differences,
their actions say that they are too self focused to seek or
even consider what God has to say.

As far as your perceptions about Christians not only caring
but caring about you personally, many do care about you and
how this turns out. We all want the peace of Christ in
your life. But as many of us know, there always seems to
be someone that doesn't want us to have that peace.
Family matters can be difficult. But any adult must take
responsibility for their actions. There is nothing you
could have said that would have broken up their marriage
if it had not already been on shaky ground.
If he went after a prostitute, this could indicate that
there was a pornography problem in their relationship.
If so, any thing you said was just used as a crutch to
make them feel justified in doing what they wanted to do
but didn't previously because they knew it was wrong.

Just pray about this matter and God will deal with it. It
doesn't mean they will be as a family again but they may
see the error of their ways and see that each played a
part in the things that took place that destroyed the
family and can then start to forgive and heal.

I'm not judging your family. But I am saying this is not
your fault and if they are Christians, they don't act like
they are or seem to have a need for Christ.

I wish you fast healing.
 
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oopsies

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#4
I am so discouraged that discouraged seems a small word for how I'm feeling. My family is a mess. My brother ended a 29 year marriage, his ex-wife and children are angry at me for misconceptions on their part. My brother took up with a prostitute and started doing drugs with her. My dad took him in and he and my mother have been divorced for 25 + years and he is a nut case. There's so much damage all around me and my family is very religious. I've developed a picture of hipocrisy and am very confused as to the truth of it all. I don't feel loved and I don't see that Christian people love others at all. I'm just so down about it all. The conflicts are all tangled up with different ones throwing Bible verses at each other. It's maddening. Can any help?
I certainly will pray for you but here's a couple verses that I just saw in a different way that I can use whenever I'm feeling frustrated, troubled at other people's actions, and just getting angry at other Christians. Hopefully, it may help you somehow.

Galatians 6:1-2 said:
Brothers, if someone is caught in a sin, you who are spiritual should restore him gently. But watch yourself, or you also may be tempted. Carry each other's burdens, and in this way you will fulfill the law of Christ.
Ephesians 4:29 said:
Do not let any unwholesome talk come out of your mouths, but only what is helpful for building others up according to their needs, that it may benefit those who listen.
I used to read Ephesians 4:29 as don't swear, say dirty jokes, etc. But now that I've read your situation, I'm reading the verse more along the lines of criticism, angry words, harsh rebuke, etc. Isn't it neat that when we're presented with different situations, the same verses can mean something entirely different?

Anyway, I'll pray that God will intervene and help your family reconcile.
 
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dee133

Guest
#5
Concernedguy, thank you for your reply. The main thing I'm struggling with is the rejection of my ex-sister-in-law and my nieces and nephew in my brother's family. Over the years, I put so much attention and love into them. I always noticed that not much came back my way, but that was O.K. with me, but when they separated and divorced, my sister-in-law was angry at me for "throwing her under the bus" as she said. This was over a phone call my brother made to me asking me to help him pick up his son's car. I didn't know the situation and, of course, said yes and drove with him to pick up his son's car. This was at the end of their marriage and they were all fighting over the son having the car or not having it. She felt like I had intruded and called me up and blasted me over the phone. I took it, apoligized and told her I loved her and the kids and would never do anything to hurt them, but since that time, it has been one assault after another. Nothing I say or do is right or good enough. I recently took a ham over to my sister-in-law to smooth the waters and tried to talk to her. My hopes was that we could clear the air and she got angry and told me and my husband to leave. I'm not trying anymore, but I feel all the love I poured in over the years was thrown back in my face. I know they are hurting, but they are setting about, now, to lash out at everyone. This, together with my dad and brother, feels like I was never loved by them. They only liked me for what I could do for them, and I had a close relationship with my brother, and so did my younger sister. We are baffled by his behavior. It feels like we didn't know him at all. He is now saying that God told him to start doing drugs with this woman (he married her a few months ago) so he could show her how to stop taking drugs, and people wouldn't have understood Abraham taking Isaac to be sacrificed, either. He and my dad take scripture and twist it and it does no good to argue with them. Currently I have decided not to talk to either of them because their way of thinking drives me crazy and it upsets me so much I end up crying for hours. My dad has been like this for years. This is how I grew up and I now see my nieces and nephews experiencing the same thing. It makes you distrustful and question everything. I never know what is real or what is fake. I am confused because these experiences have shown me that I can't trust what I see. I believe in God, but at the same time, I don't know what to really believe. I'm wondering at 50 if I'll ever be a whole person or if I'm just doomed to carry the wounds for ever. I haven't retaliated, although I have wanted to. I haven't lashed out. I've done what I've done all my life...I take the blows and internalize it. I have a cloud of depression that I live under most of the time. I feel like running away, but I know there is no place to go. I should mention I have a good husband of 31 years and three grown children who are doing great in life and a new granddaughter who is beautiful and healthy, but for some reason that doesn't help me and I don't know why. It's not my anchor. I'm the giver here, too. I don't know what's really wrong. I just know how I feel and I feel like I could stay in bed all the time, cry, or run away. None of it makes sense so I don't do it. Even though I believe in God, I feel lost...lost in a world of coldness and injustice and no love. As I write this, I realize the insanity of what I am saying, because my husband and children would tell you that I am loved and it's true, they do love me, but it doesn't help me because there is this hole, the size of Texas, inside of me because of my mom, dad, brother and sisters. It's like I built a great life, with a great family, but my foundation wasn't there for me. The house turned out great, but I'm underneath a crumbling foundation and sinking because I'm not O.K. What do I do? I've prayed until I don't have anymore words. I'm holding me together for the time for the sake of my husband and children, but I'm not happy. I don't enjoy life. I'm miserable because I have lost hope that this sadness will ever go away.
 
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forgiven15276

Guest
#6
my mother is an alcoholic who cut herself and sheded her blood all through the house, garage and car while my sis was seeing family and my father and I were at the theaters. we came home saw the blood and my father freaked out he found a bloody knife and his favorite flower outside but my mother was nowhere to be seen.My father and the police found her and rushed her to the hospital...a few days later she downed a full bottle of pills in front of my dad and me. now they r seperated but not legally now we have to go to court next year and I have to testafy. all i want to know is why did god let this happen
 
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dee133

Guest
#7
Forgiven, I don't think God will control our actions or those around us. Sometimes I wish He would, but I believe God allows us to do stupid, harmful things and allows the consequences to come so we get in a place where we turn and cry out to Him. It feels like some people never get it and are bent on self-destruction and continue to go that path, but I don't believe God causes it or (on the other hand) forces people to do what is right. We reap what we sow and it's in the sowing that we either bend to God's will or get bitter. I know your pain. I've felt it my whole life, but we can't get bitter, and we can't give in to that kind of behavior for ourselves. We have to keep searching for truth and God and never give up. Somewhere in God, this all makes perfect sense. He will show us the way. Your mom is hurting. Something inside is broken. I'll be praying for you.
 
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concernedguy

Guest
#8
Concernedguy, thank you for your reply. The main thing I'm struggling with is the rejection of my ex-sister-in-law and my nieces and nephew in my brother's family. Over the years, I put so much attention and love into them. I always noticed that not much came back my way, but that was O.K. with me, but when they separated and divorced, my sister-in-law was angry at me for "throwing her under the bus" as she said. This was over a phone call my brother made to me asking me to help him pick up his son's car. I didn't know the situation and, of course, said yes and drove with him to pick up his son's car. This was at the end of their marriage and they were all fighting over the son having the car or not having it. She felt like I had intruded and called me up and blasted me over the phone. I took it, apoligized and told her I loved her and the kids and would never do anything to hurt them, but since that time, it has been one assault after another. Nothing I say or do is right or good enough. I recently took a ham over to my sister-in-law to smooth the waters and tried to talk to her. My hopes was that we could clear the air and she got angry and told me and my husband to leave. I'm not trying anymore, but I feel all the love I poured in over the years was thrown back in my face. I know they are hurting, but they are setting about, now, to lash out at everyone. This, together with my dad and brother, feels like I was never loved by them. They only liked me for what I could do for them, and I had a close relationship with my brother, and so did my younger sister. We are baffled by his behavior. It feels like we didn't know him at all. He is now saying that God told him to start doing drugs with this woman (he married her a few months ago) so he could show her how to stop taking drugs, and people wouldn't have understood Abraham taking Isaac to be sacrificed, either. He and my dad take scripture and twist it and it does no good to argue with them. Currently I have decided not to talk to either of them because their way of thinking drives me crazy and it upsets me so much I end up crying for hours. My dad has been like this for years. This is how I grew up and I now see my nieces and nephews experiencing the same thing. It makes you distrustful and question everything. I never know what is real or what is fake. I am confused because these experiences have shown me that I can't trust what I see. I believe in God, but at the same time, I don't know what to really believe. I'm wondering at 50 if I'll ever be a whole person or if I'm just doomed to carry the wounds for ever. I haven't retaliated, although I have wanted to. I haven't lashed out. I've done what I've done all my life...I take the blows and internalize it. I have a cloud of depression that I live under most of the time. I feel like running away, but I know there is no place to go. I should mention I have a good husband of 31 years and three grown children who are doing great in life and a new granddaughter who is beautiful and healthy, but for some reason that doesn't help me and I don't know why. It's not my anchor. I'm the giver here, too. I don't know what's really wrong. I just know how I feel and I feel like I could stay in bed all the time, cry, or run away. None of it makes sense so I don't do it. Even though I believe in God, I feel lost...lost in a world of coldness and injustice and no love. As I write this, I realize the insanity of what I am saying, because my husband and children would tell you that I am loved and it's true, they do love me, but it doesn't help me because there is this hole, the size of Texas, inside of me because of my mom, dad, brother and sisters. It's like I built a great life, with a great family, but my foundation wasn't there for me. The house turned out great, but I'm underneath a crumbling foundation and sinking because I'm not O.K. What do I do? I've prayed until I don't have anymore words. I'm holding me together for the time for the sake of my husband and children, but I'm not happy. I don't enjoy life. I'm miserable because I have lost hope that this sadness will ever go away.


God would never tell your brother to take drugs to help someone else taking drugs. That's what
drug rehab is for. God will never tell one of His Children to do something that not only will harm
them but could be a life-long struggle to over come their self.

I understand where you are. I have a friend in a similar situation.
My best advice is to pray but also find a Bible based church and perhaps a woman's group so you have
those outside your situation to consult with and to provide support. God will fill the hole you feel. It's
never good when family member's attack another family member that has no desire to fight.

But if you did as you said and tried to repair the relationship but she refused, your responsibility to
her no longer exist. You have tried to repair your relationship as Christ commanded. That's all you
can do. You can't control what she does.
But, life goes in circles and there may be a time later that her situation gets so bad she may need
help. If so, offer her help whether she ask for it or not. This demonstrates that you bear her no
ill will and it might take a drastic situation to belittle her so she will reconcile your relationship.

Just pray about it and God will work it out. All things work to your good even if its hard to see how
when you are in the middle of the storm. But usually, what you go through will be something that
will help you grow so you can help someone else later going through a similar situation.

It is in your times of weakness that God's Strength is revealed to you.
 
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Cako53

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#9
my mother is an alcoholic who cut herself and sheded her blood all through the house, garage and car while my sis was seeing family and my father and I were at the theaters. we came home saw the blood and my father freaked out he found a bloody knife and his favorite flower outside but my mother was nowhere to be seen.My father and the police found her and rushed her to the hospital...a few days later she downed a full bottle of pills in front of my dad and me. now they r seperated but not legally now we have to go to court next year and I have to testafy. all i want to know is why did god let this happen
I am so sorry that you had to experiance that :(
Have you ever read the story of Job and his trials? If not you should really read it, whenever I am down it is a good read. It shows you how much lower you could have been. I will be praying for you, and remember that even though it doesn't seem like it right now, God is a God of love.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fayxh8Uqes0 God bless you. If you ever need someone to talk to, feel free to pm me or talk to me in the chat.
 

Kathleen

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i think we should glue toghter concernedguy and calebs answer toghter. I was about to say ready the story of Job. But no..caleb beat me to it...o well.

Urself and your family are in my prayers
God Bless