God talks of the Eucharist in the Bible!.....

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Katy-follower

Katy-follower

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Hebrews 7:25-27: “Therefore He is also able to save to the uttermost those who come to God through Him, since He always lives to make intercession for them. For such a High Priest was fitting for us, who is holy, harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners, and has become higher than the heavens; who does not need daily, as those high priests, to offer up sacrifices, first for His own sins and then for the people’s, for this He did once for all when He offered up Himself”


[FONT=&quot]In other words - He is forever able to save the people he leads to God, because he always lives to speak to God for them. Jesus is the high priest we need. He is holy and innocent and faultless, and not at all like us sinners. Jesus is honored above all beings in heaven, and he is better than any other high priest. Jesus doesn't need to offer sacrifices each day for his own sins and then for the sins of the people. He offered a sacrifice once for all, when he gave himself.[/FONT]
 
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Nor do we believe that the Eucharist is a new sacrifice each and every time. It is the same sacrifice of Calvary that is made present to us at each and every Mass. When we take the Holy Eucharist we partake of the same sacrifice Christ offered once and for all at the Cross of Calvary.

1322 The holy Eucharist completes Christian initiation. Those who have been raised to the dignity of the royal priesthood by Baptism and configured more deeply to Christ by Confirmation participate with the whole community in the Lord's own sacrifice by means of the Eucharist.

1323 "At the Last Supper, on the night he was betrayed, our Savior instituted the Eucharistic sacrifice of his Body and Blood. This he did in order to perpetuate the sacrifice of the cross throughout the ages until he should come again, and so to entrust to his beloved Spouse, the Church, a memorial of his death and resurrection: a sacrament of love, a sign of unity, a bond of charity, a Paschal banquet 'in which Christ is consumed, the mind is filled with grace, and a pledge of future glory is given to us.'"

1382 The Mass is at the same time, and inseparably, the sacrificial memorial in which the sacrifice of the cross is perpetuated and the sacred banquet of communion with the Lord's body and blood. But the celebration of the Eucharistic sacrifice is wholly directed toward the intimate union of the faithful with Christ through communion. To receive communion is to receive Christ himself who has offered himself for us.
 
Katy-follower

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Luke 22:19: "do this in remembrance of Me"

Nowhere in the bible does it say that you swallow Jesus - or for the priest to state that he can call Jesus from heaven every Sunday to be present in the Eucharist for everyone to swallow. The scripture from my opening post is the word of God and no one can argue the words in the bible... "......who does not need daily, as those high priests, to offer up sacrifices, first for His own sins and then for the people’s, for this He did once for all when He offered up Himself”

The crucifixion is over. It's done. No more. He died for our sins. It's complete. No more sacrifices needed. Eat bread in remembrance.
 
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I'm content with going to hell because I didn't believe the wine was blood, or that the unleavened bread was human flesh.

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"first for His own sins and then for the people&#8217;s, for this He did once for all when He offered up Himself&#8221;

If you take all of this literally, Jesus offerd himself for his own sins, which is also impossible. So Jesus never offers himself up again for anyone's sins so we celebrate with him that one perfect sacrifice every mass. And we partake with him that same sacrifice. Bringing it to mind and entering into its timelessness.
 
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Katy-follower said:
Luke 22:19: "do this in remembrance of Me"

Nowhere in the bible does it say that you swallow Jesus - or for the priest to state that he can call Jesus from heaven every Sunday to be present in the Eucharist for everyone to swallow. The scripture from my opening post is the word of God and no one can argue the words in the bible... "......who does not need daily, as those high priests, to offer up sacrifices, first for His own sins and then for the people’s, for this He did once for all when He offered up Himself”

The crucifixion is over. It's done. No more. He died for our sins. It's complete. No more sacrifices needed. Eat bread in remembrance.
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In Luke 22:19 Jesus says "do this in &#7936;&#957;&#940;&#956;&#957;&#951;&#963;&#953;&#962; of Me". The word &#7936;&#957;&#940;&#956;&#957;&#951;&#963;&#953;&#962; can only be translated as remembrance, because thats the only word we have that even comes close to it's meaning. But to the speakers of Koine Greek &#7936;&#957;&#940;&#956;&#957;&#951;&#963;&#953;&#962; meant something much more subtle it meant to "make something present". This meaning was preserved in the Latin when Saint Jerome translated it as

Vulgate: Luke 22:19. et accepto pane gratias egit et fregit et dedit eis dicens hoc est corpus meum quod pro vobis datur hoc facite in meam commemorationem

Instead of.

Vulgate: Luke 22:19. et accepto pane gratias egit et fregit et dedit eis dicens hoc est corpus meum quod pro vobis datur hoc facite in meam memoriam.

To the Romans commemoratio carried the idea that you were making an event present again, while memoria was the simple act of remembering.

Other languages preserve the meaning so much better because they have multiple words to capture the nuance of the Greek. English in this regard is substantially lacking.

Also the priest does not force Jesus from heaven. In the sacraments the priests acts "in persona Christi", in the Eucharist it is Christ himself who offers the sacrifice through the priest.
 
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Katy-follower said:
Luke 22:19: "do this in remembrance of Me"

Nowhere in the bible does it say that you swallow Jesus - or for the priest to state that he can call Jesus from heaven every Sunday to be present in the Eucharist for everyone to swallow. The scripture from my opening post is the word of God and no one can argue the words in the bible... "......who does not need daily, as those high priests, to offer up sacrifices, first for His own sins and then for the people?’s, for this He did once for all when He offered up Himself?”

The crucifixion is over. It's done. No more. He died for our sins. It's complete. No more sacrifices needed. Eat bread in remembrance.
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The Bible DOES say that we need to eat the Body of Our Lord (John 6:53-55). If you are going to interpret this Verse in Hebrew 7 literally then why don't you interpret this one literally?,,,,,,,,
 
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Jimmydiggs, read john 6:66-68. Many of Jesus's followers left because they could not understand how we could eat the Body and Blood of Our Lord. Jesus noticed this but did not state his words as a parable or try to soften them. Instead He turns to the apostles and asks if they would leave Him too. which are you?
 
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