God''s (s)elect (OSAS). Christ's church (Catholic). God REALLY choose who is SAVED ?

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GreenNnice

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God''s elect is a term for Once Saved Always Saved, or, OSAS, acronym.

Christ's church - Catholic reference to their denomination the ONLY one going to Heaven.

Why do people feel a NEED to be of exclusivity. You know, thinking this way is downREICH terrible, for Hitler thought Germany exclusive of all other races and was going to kill off all Jews. And, did. God stopped Hitler before completion, still many died from this powerful modern day WW II leader's act. God dropped a bomb on WWII, finallly. I wonder if WWII shows our peace and God gave us favor, blessed uss.

The Romans killed Christians and there were crusades, and, they were wars over things that God tolerated but did He like this kind of human deprivation and demoralizing and downright murderous behavior? Of course not, Christ peeps.

For God is Love, scriptures state. God did build up David's army against amalekites and philistines,and women and children were killed but God was, in that case, working to show rulers who WAS and who WASN'T in power. God WAS. Other leaders of armies were drained of life in battle because their HEARTS were like Pharoah's. These leaders hearts were HARD. And, God just then used that evil and disonedience already in there to let them become unto their own demises.

God''s elect are simply those who choose Him.

Predestination refers to God''s ultimate, sovereign control of ALL things and ALL people. God knows everything. Christ peeps, God created the universe , and, one day, you WILL die (unless Jesus comes again first :) ) , as, ALL men die (and, no ladies die, they are prettier and cooler than guys :D OK, already, sorry, miladies, you destined to die too just like we guys :( ) . But God in His infinite might and power and ability and faculty , and, infinite everything else, WILL raise you up IF you have chosen to elect.yourself His.

Just believe. There is NO exclusivity, no selectivity. None. No, none. No, not one does God want to perish. No one. Nobody. Not a soul. No person. No body. Nobody. Everybody He wants to believe. Every one.
That means......


....you. :)
 
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Saint-John

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yes Believe..(look in your dictionary you will see words like..trust in..rely on..OBEY...etc)
andmark 16.15-20 these signs shall follow them that BELIEVE(Gods way...yes God is a Dictator !!!! ie 10 COMMANMANTS not 10 SUGGESTIONS Old test eg......do your in dont your out...NEW TEST acts 2.38 he would you choose him, life etc

Mt 7:14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and FEW there be that find it.
 
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GreenNnice

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yes Believe..(look in your dictionary you will see words like..trust in..rely on..OBEY...etc)
andmark 16.15-20 these signs shall follow them that BELIEVE(Gods way...yes God is a Dictator !!!! ie 10 COMMANMANTS not 10 SUGGESTIONS Old test eg......do your in dont your out...NEW TEST acts 2.38 he would you choose him, life etc

Mt 7:14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and FEW there be that find it.
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Yes, believe, multiple layered meanings to that word as all know The Word commands,us,that after we first, REPENT (complete affirmation to God that we are sorry for our past sins, leaving our sins behind in understanding Christ's sacrifice that COVERED ALL oir sins). And, then BELIEVE ON THE Son of God, as your Saviour and Lord. . Gone, no need to think about them sins no more :)

Yes, those are The basics to being saved. Simple, as simple as being in a Godly sorrow, repentent frame of mind and reciting John 3:16.

Baptism with water and fire ( Holy Spirit) will be done too, as The Lord leads that new believer to do. :)

Good post, St. John.

This , John 3:16, is the whole GOSPEL in one verse. We are to trust and obey, like The old hymnal Song says, for their is no other way but to trust and obey and follow God in your personal spiritual journey as He leads, and, He does lead. Just like He led His Son (I am to do The will of my Father) we WILL be led too.

Personal journey ! Do NOT judge others, of their sacrament and timing of obedience faith acts, which are NOT works. Take up your cross and follow Him.

So simple. FEW are able to fully commit to Christ, as, even disciples left Jesus when Jesus wanted them to do certain obedience things. Disciples! They were Christ BELIEVERS ! Yet, scripture is clear they left the faith :(

Good news, is even, in falling away, like prodigal son, God, will welcome us back if we return.
OSAS is hogwash, but God''s infinite mercy and grace over sin abounds greatly, more so than The sin that abounded and, fact, had that departer bound by Satan in sin.

God wants NO ONE to perish, scripture is clear, any SCRIPTURE THAT TELLS YOU SOME SORT OF SELECTIVITY SALVATION IS UTTER HOGWASH.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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yes Believe..(look in your dictionary you will see words like..trust in..rely on..OBEY...etc)
andmark 16.15-20 these signs shall follow them that BELIEVE(Gods way...yes God is a Dictator !!!! ie 10 COMMANMANTS not 10 SUGGESTIONS Old test eg......do your in dont your out...NEW TEST acts 2.38 he would you choose him, life etc

Mt 7:14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and FEW there be that find it.
so I guess we are under law and not grace?

Yes the are commands, but obeying them will not save us, the only way they can is 100 % adherance.

God saves us through faith in his work. then baptizes us with his holy spirit. and adops us into his family. so we may be saved when the baptism into the eternal fire occurs.
 
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GreenNnice

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yes Believe..(look in your dictionary you will see words like..trust in..rely on..OBEY...etc)
andmark 16.15-20 these signs shall follow them that BELIEVE(Gods way...yes God is a Dictator !!!! ie 10 COMMANMANTS not 10 SUGGESTIONS Old test eg......do your in dont your out...NEW TEST acts 2.38 he would you choose him, life etc

Mt 7:14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and FEW there be that find it.
so I guess we are under law and not grace?

Yes the are commands, but obeying them will not save us, the only way they can is 100 % adherance.

God saves us through faith in his work. then baptizes us with his holy spirit. and adops us into his family. so we may be saved when the baptism into the eternal fire occurs.
For by grace YOU have been saved ...... Not just directed at christian protestant or christian catholic or SDA or mormon or non-christians.


That NONE should perish. <-- Anyone want to post that verse here, and, thanks, Christ bro and Sis for SIMPLY telling others about Jesus. Remember, someone FIRST told you, that was what a day for you.

Don't you owe it to others , that is, shouldn't you want others to experience being told their life can be so peacably, remarkably, ETERNALLY changed by just believing in Jesus. Repenting of past mistakes/sins and promising a pact with God to go forward FOLLOWING His way and being obedient to His Word. :)

OK, refresher, POP QUIZ !

1. Who are 'The First' of Christ, the Christ's church who ONLY go to Heaven, are they the Chosen, the Called, who are ONLY ELECTED, ONLY CHOSEN to be saved? None simply. The only 'FIRST' you need to follow is what scripture says, Jesus speaking, too: The Last Shall Be First .

Okee, question 2. Who WILL go Heaven after being saved? All who are eternally following Christ in their earthly life, it is a personal spiritual journey, Spirit-led, God--directed, Jesus-principled for ALL. :)