Have You Considered Living in a Cave?

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HealthAndHappiness

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I enjoyed caving since my Sunday School teacher took us on a backpacking trip to the Sinks of the Gandy near Spruce Knob West Virginia.

Friends and I discussed the pros and cons of actually building a home in a cave. At the time, I had no idea that a lot of people made it happen.
I have no further aspirations of moving, but find the topic of cave homes interesting. I will be posting a series of tours through cave homes in this thread.

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Deep in the Arkansas Ozarks, past a flooded creek crossing and down a long limestone driveway, a door opens into a mountain, and behind it is a 6,000-square-foot home that the cave is slowly, quietly reclaiming.

Nate and Randee have lived here, on and off, for years. In the deepest part of winter, when the farmhouse on the property gets cold, they move into the cave where the temperature never wavers. The mountain holds steady at 65 degrees year-round, with or without a furnace.

The home itself is unlike anything we’ve filmed. Stalactites hang from the ceiling, not as decoration, but because they were there first. Calcium deposits are still growing on the walls, in the showers, around the kitchen...dripping from formations above, pooling, flowing, and eventually tumbling down into a living room waterfall.

But the real revelation is what’s behind a door at the back of the house — what Nate calls the Narnia door. Step through it and you’re inside the mountain itself: miles of passage following the same underground spring that runs through the living room, out through a cavern that feels straight out of The Goonies. These hills have their own outlaw mythology too.

As Nate tells it: “Jesse James and his gang used to come through these hills, and the legend is he hid silver in one of these caves. So you know, we’re looking for that — and the Goonies pirate ship. So one of these days.”

Previous owners once dammed the flow and generated their own hydroelectric power back here. Nineteenth-century graffiti marks the walls. Fossils from an ancient seabed are visible in the rock. The mountain has been holding all of this, quietly, for a very long time.

Nate and Randee say that living here — in the cave, on this land — brings a kind of peace that’s hard to explain but easy to feel."
 
I enjoyed caving since my Sunday School teacher took us on a backpacking trip to the Sinks of the Gandy near Spruce Knob West Virginia.

Friends and I discussed the pros and cons of actually building a home in a cave. At the time, I had no idea that a lot of people made it happen.
I have no further aspirations of moving, but find the topic of cave homes interesting. I will be posting a series of tours through cave homes in this thread.

Cave Home #1
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I looked at a cave home in limestone formations. They can be amazing. Need a bookshelf? Carve one out! They can be energy efficient and pretty much immune to severe weather if properly excavated. Finding the right location is not so easy.
 
I looked at a cave home in limestone formations. They can be amazing. Need a bookshelf? Carve one out! They can be energy efficient and pretty much immune to severe weather if properly excavated. Finding the right location is not so easy.
That's great to hear that you are into this too!

My state has a huge limestone company, Greer so there's a lot of that around this part of the world. There are also a lot of caves of other stone. When I've explored them, they have one thing in common. There's high humidity and lots of moisture on wall surfaces. I think that might be a reason why they aren't common here.
 
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That's great to hear that you are into this too!

My state has a huge limestone company, Greer so there's a lot of that around this part of the world. There are also a lot of caves of other stone. When I've explored them, they have one thing in common. There's high humidity and lots of moisture on wall surfaces. I think that might be a reason why they aren't common here.
Yes, there is nothing suitable where I live. And at my age, I'm not going to relocate. There are some amazing homes, including with skylights, that you would hardly know are there. I've not looked at it in detail, but I'm sure that it's possible to go off grid with solar and perhaps wind power.
 
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Yes, there is nothing suitable where I live. And at my age, I'm not going to relocate. There are some amazing homes, including with skylights, that you would hardly know are there. I've not looked at it in detail, but I'm sure that it's possible to go off grid with solar and perhaps wind power.

The original owner had an interesting motivation.
In America in the early cold war with the Soviet Union there was a lot of threat about the atom bomb, etc. My 7th grade history teacher told us about that and taught a unit on the subject.

That first video describes the reason he cleaned out that cave and converted it to a home.
The previous owner built a hydroelectric system from the stream below.
 
Yes, there is nothing suitable where I live. And at my age, I'm not going to relocate. There are some amazing homes, including with skylights, that you would hardly know are there. I've not looked at it in detail, but I'm sure that it's possible to go off grid with solar and perhaps wind power.
I'm sure you have a more suitable home.
The cave that was featured was a full-time nonstop repair project.
 
nooo
it would be too dark and cold and slimy
If it was in Australia maybe, but not in New Zealand.

Australia has Coober Pedy and there are underground caves in the mines. They look pretty comfortable if you like living underground.

Apparently we are supposed to have hobbits in middle earth (location, the Shire, in Matamata) but they live in holes in the ground, hobbit holes more like rabbit burrows rather than actual stone caves.

The Waitomo Caves have lots of stalagmites and stalactites annd glow worms and underground rivers. While they are wonderful to explore, abseil down or black water raft....I wouldn't want to actually live in one.

Anyway, I quite like the home I am living in now, its just a brick house and it has windows so I get sunlight.
 
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Oh the bunker 'fear of nuclear war' thing. Well that was a real thing back in the day. We have underground bunkers and such but that was for World War 2. I was not born back then but living through a war would have been terrifying.

You'd want a place to hide or risk being bombed or blown to smithereens. I am in awe of those who lived through the Blitz. They had air raid shelters and black out curtains and everything. Rations. Dig for victory gardens. Finding shrapnel on the ground. I mean things like landmines are still a danger today.

Nuclear explosions and bombs? Well yea but the thing with that was you'd pretty much be instantly fried, while the other kind of bombing would have seen more wounded and injured survivors.

Nowadays everyone is just getting cancer from all the fallout and radiation and the chemical residue from modern warfare, and that isn't immediately obvious until years later.
 
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If you live in West Virginia is that in the mountains of 'the mountain people' or it's that kind of the same as 'hill billies'?
I can imagine not an easy life.
Also if you lived in the valley it would not see much sun and probably be cold in the mountains depending on which side you are facing. Sunlight is important for our wellbeing, just as shade is.

anyway. It's amazing that we can live in so many different kinds of homes..no rule saying it has to be a mansion or a suburban 3 bedder. I'd like a treehouse or a rammed earth home myself. Or just to experience staying in one. Or a houseboat on a canal. We can all dream.
 
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Oh the bunker 'fear of nuclear war' thing. Well that was a real thing back in the day. We have underground bunkers and such but that was for World War 2. I was not born back then but living through a war would have been terrifying.

You'd want a place to hide or risk being bombed or blown to smithereens. I am in awe of those who lived through the Blitz. They had air raid shelters and black out curtains and everything. Rations. Dig for victory gardens. Finding shrapnel on the ground. I mean things like landmines are still a danger today.

Nuclear explosions and bombs? Well yea but the thing with that was you'd pretty much be instantly fried, while the other kind of bombing would have seen more wounded and injured survivors.

Nowadays everyone is just getting cancer from all the fallout and radiation and the chemical residue from modern warfare, and that isn't immediately obvious until years later.

Wow, so you New Zealanders have a similar history. You know that history too.
I had the honor to have the oldest teacher in Social Studies/history for 7th grade. He taught us a lot of technical details from ground zero to fallout survival and the various radiations.
The billionaires and politicians believe that they can survive a war like that. They always have, which is why I will post my next video you may enjoy, on the underground city for the politicians in the US Capitol. They were provided the nicest hotel and resort in our beautiful rural state of West Virginia.

I'm sure that some here had grandparents who lived in Europe in WW2. Many cities were leveled by Germany.
Those who flee here would naturally require a basement in part to prep in case that occurs again. The government constantly tried to scare people to justify the extreme taxes taken from them and given to their companies that were funded through the department of war. That's why most had basements doubling for temporary shelters.
Again today NATO powers are at war with Russia and we Americans are still waiting for the politicians to extract us from war with the second biggest military.

Christians should be praying against wars.
 
There was a terrible day a few years ago where a high school took students on a trip to go caving, but the cave water was rising too fast after pervious days downpours and they lost one of the students.

The other caving tragedy was several decades ago called Cave Creek where a wooden platform over a gorge collapsed/gave way and the young people on it fell to their deaths. There were only a few survivors.

So I'm kind of wary about caves. You are going into a hole in the ground, it's dark, maybe claustrophobic, the cave walls may be soft limestone and could collapse at any moment. It would be like being buried alive or suffocated. I wouldn't feel safe I think I'd rather be under a tree in the forest than in a cave in event of nuclear war.
 
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There was a terrible day a few years ago where a high school took students on a trip to go caving, but the cave water was rising too fast after pervious days downpours and they lost one of the students.

The other caving tragedy was several decades ago called Cave Creek where a wooden platform over a gorge collapsed/gave way and the young people on it fell to their deaths. There were only a few survivors.

So I'm kind of wary about caves. You are going into a hole in the ground, it's dark, maybe claustrophobic, the cave walls may be soft limestone and could collapse at any moment. It would be like being buried alive or suffocated. I wouldn't feel safe I think I'd rather be under a tree in the forest than in a cave in event of nuclear war.

That's always sad to hear of caving accidents. Subterranean flooding and falls are the biggest risks.

It reminds me of a time when I swam out of a cave to get the raft out of my car for family to cross safely. The Lord sent a cave guide straight to me who showed me exactly where a hidden entrance/exit was next to them. I walked into the side of the hill and through a dark passage and they were right in front of me! The Lord was very perfect in His sending that special expert straight to me right then. The guy didn't even know why he pulled up and stopped in front of me.
That was God in action!
What a great memory !
 
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Oh the bunker 'fear of nuclear war' thing. Well that was a real thing back in the day. We have underground bunkers and such but that was for World War 2. I was not born back then but living through a war would have been terrifying.

You'd want a place to hide or risk being bombed or blown to smithereens. I am in awe of those who lived through the Blitz. They had air raid shelters and black out curtains and everything. Rations. Dig for victory gardens. Finding shrapnel on the ground. I mean things like landmines are still a danger today.

Nuclear explosions and bombs? Well yea but the thing with that was you'd pretty much be instantly fried, while the other kind of bombing would have seen more wounded and injured survivors.

Nowadays everyone is just getting cancer from all the fallout and radiation and the chemical residue from modern warfare, and that isn't immediately obvious until years later.
It's a wonder that the English cities had any survivors.
The same, but worse right now are the people who lived in Gaza.

Here's the short story of the Greenbrier Hotel.
Fun facts;

A. The wealthiest man in West Virginia who owned coal companies bought the governorship. Billionaire Ron Justice.

B. Ron Justice bought the Greenbrier resort

C. A movie was made staring Peter Sellers playing in multiple roles/characters in a WW2 comedy called, Dr Strangelove/ How I Learned to Love the Bomb. There's a long scene about a secret military meeting with the Pres about starting a war with Russia and going underground, at the Greenbrier, until the world is decimated. They planned to repopulate the world.

 
If you live in West Virginia is that in the mountains of 'the mountain people' or it's that kind of the same as 'hill billies'?
I can imagine not an easy life.
Also if you lived in the valley it would not see much sun and probably be cold in the mountains depending on which side you are facing. Sunlight is important for our wellbeing, just as shade is.

anyway. It's amazing that we can live in so many different kinds of homes..no rule saying it has to be a mansion or a suburban 3 bedder. I'd like a treehouse or a rammed earth home myself. Or just to experience staying in one. Or a houseboat on a canal. We can all dream.

I used to sub to a channel on those unique homes. It is interesting how people made those work.

I found the scene on the underground shelter for the leadership from the old movie.
The Nazi character is talking about mine shafts, but they had underground cities back then.
Now that they have giant tunnel excavators that go through bedrock like a sci Fi movie effect. There's public articles on Miles of facilities that is even mentioned in the Bible. We live in interesting times.


 
We live in interesting times.
We sure do Bob.
Honestly i wouldn't mind living in a cave and i almost did it when i was young but through this journey i learned to be in the world but trying to not be affected by it.

Romans 12:2

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