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WHEN DID/DO THE END TIMES , AS SPOKEN IN THE BIBLE BEGAN/BEGAN?
popular belief #1, is an end time period of 7 years where both satan & Jesus duke it out for control of mankind. satans champion known as the anti-christ....
It May surprise you to know that a 7 year period of this nature CAN NOT BE FOUND WITHIN THE PAGES OF THE BIBLE!!!!!
The Prophet Daniel, speaks of a period of 70 weeks of years.....hence....7 year divisions per se. it is however not given emphatically as to how these weeks of years are to be split up......we know FROM SCRIPTURE When the 69th week began/concluded.....but again this is A WHOLE not a perfect mathematical divide.
the rest of the puzzle, wrests on how you interpret the "HE" IN DANIEL 9:27
[Dan 9:27 ]
27 "And he will confirm a covenant with the many for one week, but in the middle of the week "HE" WILL PUT A STOP TO SACRIFICE AND GRAIN OFFERINGS; and on the wing of abominations [will come] the one who makes desolate, until a complete destruction, one that is decreed, gushes forth on the one who makes desolate."
after years of study and comparing scripture with scripture and following every passage...I CLEARLY SEE THE "HE" AS JESUS not the anti-christ which is a popular view......
you might say, "WHEN DID JESUS MAKE THE SACRIFICE & GRAIN OFFERINGS DESOLATE?"
[Matthew 27:51 NASB20] 51 And behold, the veil of the temple was torn in two from top to bottom; and the earth shook and the rocks were split.
[Mark 15:38 NASB20] 38 And the veil of the temple was torn in two from top to bottom.
[Luke 23:45 NASB20] 45 because the sun stopped shining; and the veil of the temple was torn in two.
APPLYING , the former to the latter, jesus himself put a stop to the sacrifice and offerings.....NOT A FUTURE ANTI CHRIST!!!
So using this principle, it can be understood why the new testament speaks ONLY OF A 3.5 YEAR PERIOD ALLOTTED TO SATAN AND HIS CHAMPION to have their attempt, Peter says,
[1Pe 4:12, 17]
12 Beloved, do not think it strange concerning the fiery trial WHICH IS TO TRY "YOU", as though some strange thing happened to you; ... 17 For the time [has come] for judgment to begin at the house of God; and if [it begins] with us first, what will [be] the end of those who do not obey the gospel of God?
or you may prefer the biblical view of "SEPARATING THE WHEAT & TARES, I.E SHEEP AND GOAT JUDGEMENT"
THE BATTLE RAGES TIL THE LION ROARS
 

p_rehbein

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Scripture tells us why sacrifices stopped. IMO, it had nothing to do with predicting the end of time, or some other thing.

Hebrews, Chapter 10:

1For the law having a shadow of good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with those sacrifices which they offered year by year continually make the comers thereunto perfect.

2For then would they not have ceased to be offered? because that the worshippers once purged should have had no more conscience of sins.

3But in those sacrifices there is a remembrance again made of sins every year.

4For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins.

5Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me:

6In burnt offerings and sacrifices for sin thou hast had no pleasure.

7Then said I, Lo, I come (in the volume of the book it is written of me,) to do thy will, O God.

8Above when he said, Sacrifice and offering and burnt offerings and offering for sin thou wouldest not, neither hadst pleasure therein; which are offered by the law;

9Then said he, Lo, I come to do thy will, O God. He taketh away the first, that he may establish the second.

10By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.

11And every priest standeth daily ministering and offering oftentimes the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins:

12But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God;

13From henceforth expecting till his enemies be made his footstool.

14For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified.

15Whereof the Holy Ghost also is a witness to us: for after that he had said before,

16This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;

17And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more.

18Now where remission of these is, there is no more offering for sin.

19Having therefore, brethren, boldness to enter into the holiest by the blood of Jesus,

20By a new and living way, which he hath consecrated for us, through the veil, that is to say, his flesh;

21And having an high priest over the house of God;

22Let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience, and our bodies washed with pure water.