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Hi there I'm Jamie from the UK and i would like to ask my Christian brothers and sisters what they think about teachings from people like Joel Richardson and walid shoebat! Joel Richardson has a website called jorlstrumpet.com and he is the author of books like the mid East beast and the islamic anti Christ among others and he co authored a book with walid shoebat called god's war on terror! I think that Islam will play a role in biblical eschatology but I can't help but think that some of it is religious hysterical guess work! Does anyone have any thoughts on it please thanks Jamie
 

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In Dr. Peter Hammond’s book, “Slavery, Terrorism and Islam,” he documents the way Muslims slowly develop a presence in various countries and as their population numbers build, become more aggressive and assertive about exercising Sharia law.

“Islam is not a religion, nor is it a cult. In its fullest form, it is a
complete, total, 100% system of life,” Dr. Hammond notes in his book.


“Islam has religious, legal, political, economic, social, and military components.
The religious component is a beard for all of the other components.”

Their takeover of a country, what Dr. Hammond refers to as “Islamization,” begins when the population of Muslims reaches a critical mass, and they being to agitate for various privileges.

Open, free, democratic societies are particularly vulnerable. “When politically correct, tolerant, and culturally diverse societies agree to Muslim demands for their religious privileges, some of the other components tend to creep in as well,” he notes.

This is how it works, according to Dr. Hammond:

When the Muslim population remains under 2% in a country, they will be seen primarily as a peace-loving minority and not as a threat to other citizens. This was the situation in 2015:

United States — Muslim 0.6%

Australia — Muslim 1.5%

Canada — Muslim 1.9%

China — Muslim 1.8%

Italy — Muslim 1.5%

Norway — Muslim 1.8%

As the Muslim population reaches 2% to 5%, they begin to recruit from ethnic minorities and disaffected groups, within prisons and street gangs. This is happening in:

Denmark — Muslim 2%

Germany — Muslim 3.7%

United Kingdom — Muslim 2.7%

Spain — Muslim 4%

Thailand — Muslim 4.6%

“From 5% on, they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population,” Dr. Hammond notes. “For example, they will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food” and increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature such food on their shelves — along with threats for failure to comply. This is happening in:

France — Muslim 8%

Philippines — 5%

Sweden — Muslim 5%

Switzerland — Muslim 4.3%


The Netherlands — Muslim 5.5%

Trinidad & Tobago — Muslim 5.8%

Soon they begin to apply pressure to allow Sharia law within their own communities (sometimes ghettos).

“When Muslims approach 10% of the population, they tend to increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions,” Dr. Hammond notes. “In Paris, we are already seeing car-burnings. Any non-Muslim action offends Islam, and results in uprisings and threats, such as in Amsterdam, with opposition to Mohammed cartoons and films about Islam.” These tensions are seen on a regular basis in:

Guyana — Muslim 10%


India — Muslim 13.4%

Israel — Muslim 16%

Kenya — Muslim 10%

Russia — Muslim 15%

The violence increases when the Muslim population reaches 20%. “After reaching 20%, nations can expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings, and the burnings of Christian churches and Jewish synagogues,” such as in:

Ethiopia — Muslim 32.8%

“At 40%, nations experience widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks, and ongoing militia warfare,” such as in:

Bosnia — Muslim 40%

Chad — Muslim 53.1%

Lebanon — Muslim 59.7%


From 60%, persecution of non-believing “infidels” rises significantly, including sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia law as a weapon, and Jizya, a tax placed on infidels, such as in:

Albania — Muslim 70%

Malaysia — Muslim 60.4%

Qatar — Muslim 77.5%

Sudan — Muslim 70%

After 80%, expect daily intimidation and violent jihad, some State-run ethnic cleansing, and even some genocide, as these nations drive out “infidels,” and move toward a 100% Muslim society, which has been experienced to some degree in:

Bangladesh — Muslim 83%

Egypt — Muslim 90%

Gaza — Muslim 98.7%


Indonesia — Muslim 86.1%

Iran — Muslim 98%

Iraq — Muslim 97%

Jordan — Muslim 92%

Morocco — Muslim 98.7%

Pakistan — Muslim 97%

Palestine — Muslim 99%

Syria — Muslim 90%

Tajikistan — Muslim 90%

Turkey — Muslim 99.8%

United Arab Emirates — Muslim 96%

A 100% Muslim society will theoretically usher in their version of peace — the peace of ‘Dar-es-Salaam’ — the Islamic House of Peace. “Here there’s supposed to be peace, because everybody is a Muslim, the Madrassas are the only schools, and the Koran is the only word,” such as in:

Afghanistan — Muslim 100%

Saudi Arabia — Muslim 100%

Somalia — Muslim 100%

Yemen — Muslim 100%

Dr. Hammond observes this Islamic ideal is seldom realized. “Unfortunately, peace is never achieved, as in these 100% states the most radical Muslims intimidate and spew hatred, and satisfy their blood lust by killing less radical Muslims, for a variety of reasons.”

“It is important to understand that in some countries, with well under 100% Muslim populations, such as France, the minority Muslim populations live in ghettos, within which they are 100% Muslim, and within which they live by Sharia law,” he states.

Dr. Hammond is also concerned by demographic trends. “Today’s 1.5 billion Muslims make up 22% of the world’s population,” he observes. “But their birth rates dwarf the birth rates of Christians, Hindus, Buddhists, Jews, and all other believers. Muslims will exceed 50% of the world’s population by the end of this century.” source
 

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Striving to institute world-wide sharia law is an Islamic religious duty.

Point number two @ 3:12


Many people don't realize how politically oriented Islam is at its core.
In fact, Islam is less of a religion than it is a religious ideology.

It includes a mandatory and highly specific legal and political plan for
the whole society: Sharia. There is no separation between the religious
and the political in Islam. Rather, Islam and Sharia constitute a
totalitarian means of ordering society at every level, including:

ritual worship, transactions and contracts, morals and manners,
beliefs, and punishments. In the Qur'an, Islam makes it clear that
man made governments such as a democracy, and free speech,
such as criticizing the Qur'an, are abominations, and must be eliminated.

The modern expression, "creeping sharia" is used to describe the slow
deliberate and methodical advance of Islamic law in non Muslim counties.

Official sharia courts already operate in the UK, handling cases ranging
from divorce and financial disputes to domestic violence. Attempts to
introduce sharia in the legal system in Germany, Sweden and other
European countries are ongoing.

While sharia already has a foot in our door in the matter of minor disputes
like inheritance and domestic violence, it should concern you that sharia:

commands that drinkers and gamblers should be whipped; allows husbands
to hit their wives; allows an injured plaintiff to exact legal revenge,
literally an eye for an eye; commands that a thief must have a hand cut off;
commands that homosexuals must be executed; orders unmarried fornicators
to be whipped, and adulterers to be stoned to death; orders death for both Muslim
and non Muslim critics of Muhammad, the Qur'an, and even sharia itself;
orders apostates to be killed; commands offensive, aggressive, and unjust jihad.

As written in the Qur'an, sharia is the law of Allah; any other form
of government is a sin. It is the duty of every Muslim to keep striving
until all governments have been converted to sharia law.
 

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For every opinion or belief someone may hold there will be another party who just as strongly opposes that idea. Both sides usually claim to sit with the best arguments, the real facts and the correct world view, and (ironcally) both sides regard the other as being indoctrinated, blind to the obvious and outright stupid.

Most people only expose themselves to information that matches their own worldview. It is uncomfortable to do otherwise. Still, we would like to give you some surprising information about Islam. We also urge you to look further than only mainstream media, and if you can find the time for it, read the koran yourself.

To get you started, we'd like to present you three things you probably did not know about Islam.
(Please note that point number two on Sharia Law was given already in he above post.)



1. Islam has not been hijacked. That Islam has been hijacked is what non-Muslims naturally assume, because they assume all religions are the same. The reason non-Muslims are so easily confused is that most of us don't realize the difference between the Qur'an and every other religious book we are familiar with.

The Christian Bible is a collection of writings from various authors written sometimes hundreds of years apart, with parables, advice, and dreams, all collected together into one book. Same with the Jewish Torah.

Even those of us in the west who are neither Christians nor Jews, are still familiar enough with these religions to know this much, and therefore we assume the same is true for the Qur'an. But the Qur'an is only one book written by one man in his own lifetime. It is meant to be taken literally, and it is not full of symbolism or vague analogies. It is mostly direct commands.

Of course, the Qur'an contains contradictory statements just like other religious books, but the Qur'an itself provides the reader with a way to know what to do with the contradictions. It's explained in the Qur;an that if you have two passages that contradict each other, the one written later supersedes the one written earlier.

Most westerners are unaware that the peaceful tolerant passages were written early in Mohammed's prophetic career. According to the Qur'an, those passages have been abrogated by later, more violent, and less tolerant passages. So when most westerners hear jihadists quoting violent passages from the Qur'an, and then peaceful Muslims quoting peaceful passages, they interpret that the way they would if someone was quoting the Bible or the Torah. They think to themselves, oh, there must be many different and contradictory passages, like there are in other religious books, so Muslims can pick and choose what they like and justify whatever actions they want to take.

But the Qur'an is nothing like that. There is no picking and choosing. It says very explicitly and in no uncertain terms that a Muslim must not alter or ignore any part of its very clear and direct message, or they will burn in a fiery torment forever.



Point number three, @ 5:53
Muslims are allowed to deceive non-Muslims if it helps Islam. For non-Muslims, this principle, called taqiyya, is another surprising concept of Islam. While most other religions speak highly of truthfulness, the Qur'an instructs Muslims to lie to non-Muslims about their beliefs and their political ambitions, to protect and spread Islam. There are many examples of today's Islamic leader saying one thing in English for the western press, and then saying something entirely different to their own followers in Arabic a few days later.


Deceiving the enemy is always useful in war, and Islam is at war with the non-Islamic world until the whole world follows Sharia law. All non-Muslims living in non-Islamic states are therefore enemies, so deceiving westerners is totally acceptable - even encouraged - if it can forward the goals of the spread of Islam.

As a recent example, the Islamic American relief agency were seemingly raising money for orphans, but were in fact giving the money to terrorists. They deceived goodhearted western infidels into giving money to organizations that were actively killing western infidels.

Do the research yourself. This is not an isolated case.

Muslim organizations worldwide often declare that Islam is a religion of peace. But what does that really mean? It seems easy for a Muslim to quote a peaceful verse from the early parts of the Qur'an while, by following the principle of taqiyya, neglecting to mention the fact that it has been officially abrogated by later more violent verses.

According to the Qur'an, the world will be at peace only when Islam and Sharia reign in every country - and never until then. This is why every Muslim can truthfully say that Islam is a religion of peace.

If any of these (three) points took you by surprise, then there is surely much more you still don't know. This subject will affect you in the near future, so take the chance to inform yourself now - before it does.

The Qur'an on abrogation, Sura 2:106
We do not abrogate a verse or cause it to be forgotten except that We bring forth [one] better than it or similar to it. Do you not know that Allah is over all things competent?


Sura 16:101
And when We substitute a verse in place of a verse - and Allah is most knowing of what He sends down - they say, "You, [O Muhammad], are but an inventor [of lies]." But most of them do not know.


Sura 17:86
And if We willed, We could surely do away with that which We revealed to you. Then you would not find for yourself concerning it an advocate against Us.
 

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I can't say I have a definitive answer, but my thoughts echo (at least SOMEWHAT, not 100%) what this writer has put (fairly succinctly) in the following two paragraphs (caveat: these paragraphs only... I'm not aware of what all this writer says or supports beyond these):

[quoting Don Koenig]

"I think believing that the Antichrist is Muslim can be a big danger and a trap because I believe the real Antichrist comes into power through the wars against Islamic fundamentalism. So those who fall into the trap of making an Islamic Beast might actually help create the platform for the Western Beast Antichrist to stand on and rise to power and take over the world as the world’s savior that saved us from Islam.

"I also want to point out something else. Believing that Islam is the Beast system is not at all logical. It is obvious that Islam with all its laws will never be accepted by the decadent West. It is also obvious that any system that unappealing to the West could never take over the world by force. So the logic of a Beast Antichrist out of Islam escapes me. Also, if the Beast were Muslim and his God was Allah, why would he demand to be worshiped as God? Those in Islam will never accept the worship of a man claiming to be God. The whole concept of an Islam Antichrist is fantasy."

--Don Koenig, The Prophetic Years, "Debunking a Muslim Beast Antichrist"

[end quoting; 2009, I think?]

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So, this general idea ^ , IMO.


I'm picturing more like a squeaky clean[-appearing], John Wayne type... :unsure: [who knows]

("...whose look was more stout than his fellows." Daniel 7:20)
 

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It is obvious that Islam with all its laws will never be accepted by the decadent West...
Sharia law is already operational in the UK, and being violently agitated for in parts of America. If you understand how they rely on their population growth for jihad, you might change your mind. Sharia law in UK is now in penetration phase 4. UK has over 3,000 mosques and over 130 Sharia law courts. Although they technically lie within the UK's Tribunal Court system, these Sharia courts have been issuing rulings that contradict UK's common law.

In 2011, UK's Muslims began demanding that Sharia law replace British common law and become the only law in towns with large Muslim populations, including Birmingham, Bradford, Derby, Dewsbury, Leeds, Leicester, Liverpool, Luton, Manchester, Sheffield, Waltham Forest and Tower Hamlets, an East London Muslim enclave whose streets are already plastered with posters declaring, "You are entering a Sharia controlled zone: Islamic rules enforced" and where Muslim imams have issued death threats to women who refuse to wear the hijab. Death threats for not wearing a head scarf o_O

That same year, UK's prime minister said, “We have even tolerated these segregated communities behaving in ways that run completely counter to our values. This hands-off tolerance has only served to reinforce the sense that not enough is shared... What we see - and what we see in so many European countries - is a process of radicalization.”

Initially, Sharia law was applied discretely within the small Muslim enclaves of Europe. But after three generations of high birth rate and immigration into Europe, those enclaves have grown in size and number into "no go" zones (55 in Sweden alone) where Sharia law displaces civil law and has begun to challenge the Judeo-Christian foundation of their host European nations.

Today, Sharia law is taking root in Germany, Sweden and other European nations that threw open their doors to Muslim refugees, who are forming "Sharia Police" to patrol, impose and enforce Sharia law on their host nations' streets

Sixty-two percent of UK's Muslim men and 79% of UK's Muslim women do not work and instead live on government support, and Muslims comprise one-third of Britain's high security prison inmate population. source
 
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"I think believing that the Antichrist is Muslim can be a big danger and a trap because I believe the real Antichrist comes into power through the wars against Islamic fundamentalism. So those who fall into the trap of making an Islamic Beast might actually help create the platform for the Western Beast Antichrist to stand on and rise to power and take over the world as the world’s savior that saved us from Islam.

"I also want to point out something else. Believing that Islam is the Beast system is not at all logical. It is obvious that Islam with all its laws will never be accepted by the decadent West. It is also obvious that any system that unappealing to the West could never take over the world by force. So the logic of a Beast Antichrist out of Islam escapes me. Also, if the Beast were Muslim and his God was Allah, why would he demand to be worshiped as God? Those in Islam will never accept the worship of a man claiming to be God. The whole concept of an Islam Antichrist is fantasy."
I agree with this. Islam doesn't fit the Beast system described in the bible. I think it's more believable that Judaism is to become the Beast system than Islam. However, I do agree with the point that Islam may be presented as a fake Beast system, in order to trick people, particularly Christians, into fighting it, to bring about a real Beast system, as in Albert Pike's letter from 2 centuries ago.

Albert Pike's letter to Mazzini, dated August 15, 1871:

"The First World War must be brought about in order to permit the Illuminati to overthrow the power of the Czars in Russia and of making that country a fortress of atheistic Communism. The divergences caused by the "agentur" (agents) of the Illuminati between the British and Germanic Empires will be used to foment this war. At the end of the war, Communism will be built and used in order to destroy the other governments and in order to weaken the religions."

"The Second World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences between the Fascists and the political Zionists. This war must be brought about so that Nazism is destroyed and that the political Zionism be strong enough to institute a sovereign state of Israel in Palestine. During the Second World War, International Communism must become strong enough in order to balance Christendom, which would be then restrained and held in check until the time when we would need it for the final social cataclysm."

"The Third World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences caused by the "agentur" of the "Illuminati" between the political Zionists and the leaders of Islamic World. The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam (the Moslem Arabic World) and political Zionism (the State of Israel) mutually destroy each other. Meanwhile the other nations, once more divided on this issue will be constrained. physical, moral, spiritual and economical exhaustion…We shall unleash the Nihilists and the atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil. Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic spirits will from that moment be without compass or direction, anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view. This manifestation will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time.
 

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Hi there I'm Jamie from the UK and i would like to ask my Christian brothers and sisters what they think about teachings from people like Joel Richardson and walid shoebat! Joel Richardson has a website called jorlstrumpet.com and he is the author of books like the mid East beast and the islamic anti Christ among others and he co authored a book with walid shoebat called god's war on terror! I think that Islam will play a role in biblical eschatology but I can't help but think that some of it is religious hysterical guess work! Does anyone have any thoughts on it please thanks Jamie
I believe islam will be lead in the end times by a man that the Bible declares as the King of the South in the book od Daniel chapter 11.. There will be a series of terrible wars between the King of the North and the king of the South.. Eventually the King of the north will have total victory over the king of the south.. But note the Bible says that Both of these kings will be evil..

I believe islam in the Arab world will be wiped out physically in this war. Then a new ruler will replace the King of the North who is called "The Vile Person" in Daniel 11 verse 21 . I believe this man will be the anti-christ / beast..
 
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I believe islam will be lead in the end times by a man that the Bible declares as the King of the South in the book od Daniel chapter 11.. There will be a series of terrible wars between the King of the North and the king of the South.. Eventually the King of the north will have total victory over the king of the south.. But note the Bible says that Both of these kings will be evil..

I believe islam in the Arab world will be wiped out physically in this war. Then a new ruler will replace the King of the North who is called "The Vile Person" in Daniel 11 verse 21 . I believe this man will be the anti-christ / beast..
The prophecy of Daniel has already been fulfilled.
 

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Sharia law is already operational in the UK, and being violently agitated for in parts of America. If you understand how they rely on their population growth for jihad, you might change your mind. Sharia law in UK is now in penetration phase 4. UK has over 3,000 mosques and over 130 Sharia law courts. Although they technically lie within the UK's Tribunal Court system, these Sharia courts have been issuing rulings that contradict UK's common law.


THis is simply not true. I live in the UK. The UK has a no tolerance policy for crimes. Contravening judicial process is a crime.

In 2011, UK's Muslims began demanding that Sharia law replace British common law
This is also not really a true statement. A very very small number of Muslims advocate for this. These demands are invariably denied.

and become the only law in towns with large Muslim populations, including Birmingham, Bradford, Derby, Dewsbury, Leeds, Leicester, Liverpool, Luton, Manchester, Sheffield, Waltham Forest and Tower Hamlets, an East London Muslim enclave whose streets are already plastered with posters declaring, "You are entering a Sharia controlled zone: Islamic rules enforced" and where Muslim imams have issued death threats to women who refuse to wear the hijab.
Death threats for not wearing a head scarf o_O


Again, not sure where you're getting this from. Tower Hamlets is only about 30% Muslim. And these "posters" are an urban myth.

That same year, UK's prime minister said, “We have even tolerated these segregated communities behaving in ways that run completely counter to our values. This hands-off tolerance has only served to reinforce the sense that not enough is shared... What we see - and what we see in so many European countries - is a process of radicalization.”
I've just read this speech. It's pretty clear he was talking about a minority of Muslims when he spoke of radiicalization. And actually, this quote you've written is taken from a part of the speech with clear inferences about supporting young Muslims to feel part of a national culture where they are valued. Nowhere does he talk about "no-go" zones.

In fact, he rubbishes the idea: https://www.theguardian.com/media/2...over-birmingham-is-totally-muslim-city-claims

Initially, Sharia law was applied discretely within the small Muslim enclaves of Europe. But after three generations of high birth rate and immigration into Europe, those enclaves have grown in size and number into "no go" zones (55 in Sweden alone) where Sharia law displaces civil law and has begun to challenge the Judeo-Christian foundation of their host European nations.
Again, rubbish.

Today, Sharia law is taking root in Germany, Sweden and other European nations that threw open their doors to Muslim refugees, who are forming "Sharia Police" to patrol, impose and enforce Sharia law on their host nations' streets
Rubbish.

Sixty-two percent of UK's Muslim men and 79% of UK's Muslim women do not work and instead live on government support, and Muslims comprise one-third of Britain's high security prison inmate population. source


These numbers are fabricated.

In fact, 36% of all men in the UK are unemployed or "economically inactive". The figures are slightly lower for Muslim men (35%). Also, "economically inactive" just means students or retirees. As for prisoners, Muslims are about 15% of the prison population.

https://fullfact.org/news/muslims-uk-viral-poster-factchecked/
https://researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/SN04334/SN04334.pdf
 

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THis is simply not true. I live in the UK. The UK has a no tolerance policy for crimes. Contravening judicial process is a crime.
According to the Telegraph “The first sharia court in the UK started in Birmingham in 1982, and others have followed in London, Rotherham and Dewsbury, West Yorkshire.” Sharia courts have been operating in the UK for well over a decade now. I gave my source. Here is another so you can educate yourself. The Telegraph article is from over a decade ago also. A study compiled nine years ago by Civitas think-tank found more than 80 unofficial Sharia courts operating in the UK. If you think Sharia must follow British codes of conduct and law, you are sadly mistaken. Please educate yourself. Here is another link to assist in your education.
 
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THis is simply not true. I live in the UK. The UK has a no tolerance policy for crimes. Contravening judicial process is a crime.



This is also not really a true statement. A very very small number of Muslims advocate for this. These demands are invariably denied.



Again, not sure where you're getting this from. Tower Hamlets is only about 30% Muslim. And these "posters" are an urban myth.



I've just read this speech. It's pretty clear he was talking about a minority of Muslims when he spoke of radiicalization. And actually, this quote you've written is taken from a part of the speech with clear inferences about supporting young Muslims to feel part of a national culture where they are valued. Nowhere does he talk about "no-go" zones.

In fact, he rubbishes the idea: https://www.theguardian.com/media/2...over-birmingham-is-totally-muslim-city-claims



Again, rubbish.



Rubbish.


These numbers are fabricated.

In fact, 36% of all men in the UK are unemployed or "economically inactive". The figures are slightly lower for Muslim men (35%). Also, "economically inactive" just means students or retirees. As for prisoners, Muslims are about 15% of the prison population.

https://fullfact.org/news/muslims-uk-viral-poster-factchecked/
https://researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/SN04334/SN04334.pdf

Mr. Ohm, this is not unusual, historically speaking the process of being integrated in the economic fibre of a country can take years...each successive generation being more trained and able to be meaningfully employed.

We certainly saw this with the wave of immigrants throughout the twentieth century in North America depending upon economic conditions within the country at the time.
 
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I can't say I have a definitive answer, but my thoughts echo (at least SOMEWHAT, not 100%) what this writer has put (fairly succinctly) in the following two paragraphs (caveat: these paragraphs only... I'm not aware of what all this writer says or supports beyond these):

[quoting Don Koenig]

"I think believing that the Antichrist is Muslim can be a big danger and a trap because I believe the real Antichrist comes into power through the wars against Islamic fundamentalism. So those who fall into the trap of making an Islamic Beast might actually help create the platform for the Western Beast Antichrist to stand on and rise to power and take over the world as the world’s savior that saved us from Islam.

"I also want to point out something else. Believing that Islam is the Beast system is not at all logical. It is obvious that Islam with all its laws will never be accepted by the decadent West. It is also obvious that any system that unappealing to the West could never take over the world by force. So the logic of a Beast Antichrist out of Islam escapes me. Also, if the Beast were Muslim and his God was Allah, why would he demand to be worshiped as God? Those in Islam will never accept the worship of a man claiming to be God. The whole concept of an Islam Antichrist is fantasy."

--Don Koenig, The Prophetic Years, "Debunking a Muslim Beast Antichrist"

[end quoting; 2009, I think?]

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So, this general idea ^ , IMO.


I'm picturing more like a squeaky clean[-appearing], John Wayne type... :unsure: [who knows]

("...whose look was more stout than his fellows." Daniel 7:20)
In Dr. Peter Hammond’s book, “Slavery, Terrorism and Islam,” he documents the way Muslims slowly develop a presence in various countries and as their population numbers build, become more aggressive and assertive about exercising Sharia law.

“Islam is not a religion, nor is it a cult. In its fullest form, it is a
complete, total, 100% system of life,” Dr. Hammond notes in his book.


“Islam has religious, legal, political, economic, social, and military components.
The religious component is a beard for all of the other components.”


Their takeover of a country, what Dr. Hammond refers to as “Islamization,” begins when the population of Muslims reaches a critical mass, and they being to agitate for various privileges.

Open, free, democratic societies are particularly vulnerable. “When politically correct, tolerant, and culturally diverse societies agree to Muslim demands for their religious privileges, some of the other components tend to creep in as well,” he notes.

This is how it works, according to Dr. Hammond:

When the Muslim population remains under 2% in a country, they will be seen primarily as a peace-loving minority and not as a threat to other citizens. This was the situation in 2015:

United States — Muslim 0.6%

Australia — Muslim 1.5%

Canada — Muslim 1.9%

China — Muslim 1.8%

Italy — Muslim 1.5%

Norway — Muslim 1.8%

As the Muslim population reaches 2% to 5%, they begin to recruit from ethnic minorities and disaffected groups, within prisons and street gangs. This is happening in:

Denmark — Muslim 2%

Germany — Muslim 3.7%

United Kingdom — Muslim 2.7%

Spain — Muslim 4%

Thailand — Muslim 4.6%

“From 5% on, they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population,” Dr. Hammond notes. “For example, they will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food” and increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature such food on their shelves — along with threats for failure to comply. This is happening in:

France — Muslim 8%

Philippines — 5%

Sweden — Muslim 5%

Switzerland — Muslim 4.3%

The Netherlands — Muslim 5.5%

Trinidad & Tobago — Muslim 5.8%

Soon they begin to apply pressure to allow Sharia law within their own communities (sometimes ghettos).

“When Muslims approach 10% of the population, they tend to increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions,” Dr. Hammond notes. “In Paris, we are already seeing car-burnings. Any non-Muslim action offends Islam, and results in uprisings and threats, such as in Amsterdam, with opposition to Mohammed cartoons and films about Islam.” These tensions are seen on a regular basis in:

Guyana — Muslim 10%

India — Muslim 13.4%

Israel — Muslim 16%

Kenya — Muslim 10%

Russia — Muslim 15%

The violence increases when the Muslim population reaches 20%. “After reaching 20%, nations can expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings, and the burnings of Christian churches and Jewish synagogues,” such as in:

Ethiopia — Muslim 32.8%

“At 40%, nations experience widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks, and ongoing militia warfare,” such as in:

Bosnia — Muslim 40%

Chad — Muslim 53.1%

Lebanon — Muslim 59.7%

From 60%, persecution of non-believing “infidels” rises significantly, including sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia law as a weapon, and Jizya, a tax placed on infidels, such as in:

Albania — Muslim 70%

Malaysia — Muslim 60.4%

Qatar — Muslim 77.5%

Sudan — Muslim 70%

After 80%, expect daily intimidation and violent jihad, some State-run ethnic cleansing, and even some genocide, as these nations drive out “infidels,” and move toward a 100% Muslim society, which has been experienced to some degree in:

Bangladesh — Muslim 83%

Egypt — Muslim 90%

Gaza — Muslim 98.7%

Indonesia — Muslim 86.1%

Iran — Muslim 98%

Iraq — Muslim 97%

Jordan — Muslim 92%

Morocco — Muslim 98.7%

Pakistan — Muslim 97%

Palestine — Muslim 99%

Syria — Muslim 90%

Tajikistan — Muslim 90%

Turkey — Muslim 99.8%

United Arab Emirates — Muslim 96%

A 100% Muslim society will theoretically usher in their version of peace — the peace of ‘Dar-es-Salaam’ — the Islamic House of Peace. “Here there’s supposed to be peace, because everybody is a Muslim, the Madrassas are the only schools, and the Koran is the only word,” such as in:

Afghanistan — Muslim 100%

Saudi Arabia — Muslim 100%

Somalia — Muslim 100%

Yemen — Muslim 100%

Dr. Hammond observes this Islamic ideal is seldom realized. “Unfortunately, peace is never achieved, as in these 100% states the most radical Muslims intimidate and spew hatred, and satisfy their blood lust by killing less radical Muslims, for a variety of reasons.”

“It is important to understand that in some countries, with well under 100% Muslim populations, such as France, the minority Muslim populations live in ghettos, within which they are 100% Muslim, and within which they live by Sharia law,” he states.

Dr. Hammond is also concerned by demographic trends. “Today’s 1.5 billion Muslims make up 22% of the world’s population,” he observes. “But their birth rates dwarf the birth rates of Christians, Hindus, Buddhists, Jews, and all other believers. Muslims will exceed 50% of the world’s population by the end of this century.” source
Yes I have read this book and I regularly listen to dr Peter Hammond on his Vimeo post from front line fellowship he certainly doesn't compromise with the truth and he has been involved with some good things especially in Africa with places like Sudan... Blessings Jamie!.. may i ask you what you think of a friend of mine who said that Israel attempting to defend themselves and retaliating to hamas is not a Christian thing to do. I agreed that the life of Jesus is an example of being non violent but I said that in every old testament prophecy speaking about his return it shows a jesus who deals with his enemies with a definite action.... I'm said but what should Israel do just allow barbarian terrorists to
 

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Hi there I'm Jamie from the UK and i would like to ask my Christian brothers and sisters what they think about teachings from people like Joel Richardson and walid shoebat! Joel Richardson has a website called jorlstrumpet.com and he is the author of books like the mid East beast and the islamic anti Christ among others and he co authored a book with walid shoebat called god's war on terror! I think that Islam will play a role in biblical eschatology but I can't help but think that some of it is religious hysterical guess work! Does anyone have any thoughts on it please thanks Jamie
There is very clear Biblical reference to the "Assyrian" that plays a key role in end time prophecy.

The Koran describes their "messiah" which is a counterfeit Christ, hence "anti christ" as coming from England and King Charles claims he is descended from Mohammed.

Then Psalm 83, Isaiah 17, Ezekiel 38 all refer to various coalitions of Islamic nations attacking Israel in the end times.
 

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In Dr. Peter Hammond’s book, “Slavery, Terrorism and Islam,” he documents the way Muslims slowly develop a presence in various countries and as their population numbers build, become more aggressive and assertive about exercising Sharia law.

“Islam is not a religion, nor is it a cult. In its fullest form, it is a
complete, total, 100% system of life,” Dr. Hammond notes in his book.


“Islam has religious, legal, political, economic, social, and military components.
The religious component is a beard for all of the other components.”


Their takeover of a country, what Dr. Hammond refers to as “Islamization,” begins when the population of Muslims reaches a critical mass, and they being to agitate for various privileges.

Open, free, democratic societies are particularly vulnerable. “When politically correct, tolerant, and culturally diverse societies agree to Muslim demands for their religious privileges, some of the other components tend to creep in as well,” he notes.

This is how it works, according to Dr. Hammond:

When the Muslim population remains under 2% in a country, they will be seen primarily as a peace-loving minority and not as a threat to other citizens. This was the situation in 2015:

United States — Muslim 0.6%

Australia — Muslim 1.5%

Canada — Muslim 1.9%

China — Muslim 1.8%

Italy — Muslim 1.5%

Norway — Muslim 1.8%

As the Muslim population reaches 2% to 5%, they begin to recruit from ethnic minorities and disaffected groups, within prisons and street gangs. This is happening in:

Denmark — Muslim 2%

Germany — Muslim 3.7%

United Kingdom — Muslim 2.7%

Spain — Muslim 4%

Thailand — Muslim 4.6%

“From 5% on, they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population,” Dr. Hammond notes. “For example, they will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food” and increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature such food on their shelves — along with threats for failure to comply. This is happening in:

France — Muslim 8%

Philippines — 5%

Sweden — Muslim 5%

Switzerland — Muslim 4.3%

The Netherlands — Muslim 5.5%

Trinidad & Tobago — Muslim 5.8%

Soon they begin to apply pressure to allow Sharia law within their own communities (sometimes ghettos).

“When Muslims approach 10% of the population, they tend to increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions,” Dr. Hammond notes. “In Paris, we are already seeing car-burnings. Any non-Muslim action offends Islam, and results in uprisings and threats, such as in Amsterdam, with opposition to Mohammed cartoons and films about Islam.” These tensions are seen on a regular basis in:

Guyana — Muslim 10%

India — Muslim 13.4%

Israel — Muslim 16%

Kenya — Muslim 10%

Russia — Muslim 15%

The violence increases when the Muslim population reaches 20%. “After reaching 20%, nations can expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings, and the burnings of Christian churches and Jewish synagogues,” such as in:

Ethiopia — Muslim 32.8%

“At 40%, nations experience widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks, and ongoing militia warfare,” such as in:

Bosnia — Muslim 40%

Chad — Muslim 53.1%

Lebanon — Muslim 59.7%

From 60%, persecution of non-believing “infidels” rises significantly, including sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia law as a weapon, and Jizya, a tax placed on infidels, such as in:

Albania — Muslim 70%

Malaysia — Muslim 60.4%

Qatar — Muslim 77.5%

Sudan — Muslim 70%

After 80%, expect daily intimidation and violent jihad, some State-run ethnic cleansing, and even some genocide, as these nations drive out “infidels,” and move toward a 100% Muslim society, which has been experienced to some degree in:

Bangladesh — Muslim 83%

Egypt — Muslim 90%

Gaza — Muslim 98.7%

Indonesia — Muslim 86.1%

Iran — Muslim 98%

Iraq — Muslim 97%

Jordan — Muslim 92%

Morocco — Muslim 98.7%

Pakistan — Muslim 97%

Palestine — Muslim 99%

Syria — Muslim 90%

Tajikistan — Muslim 90%

Turkey — Muslim 99.8%

United Arab Emirates — Muslim 96%

A 100% Muslim society will theoretically usher in their version of peace — the peace of ‘Dar-es-Salaam’ — the Islamic House of Peace. “Here there’s supposed to be peace, because everybody is a Muslim, the Madrassas are the only schools, and the Koran is the only word,” such as in:

Afghanistan — Muslim 100%

Saudi Arabia — Muslim 100%

Somalia — Muslim 100%

Yemen — Muslim 100%

Dr. Hammond observes this Islamic ideal is seldom realized. “Unfortunately, peace is never achieved, as in these 100% states the most radical Muslims intimidate and spew hatred, and satisfy their blood lust by killing less radical Muslims, for a variety of reasons.”

“It is important to understand that in some countries, with well under 100% Muslim populations, such as France, the minority Muslim populations live in ghettos, within which they are 100% Muslim, and within which they live by Sharia law,” he states.

Dr. Hammond is also concerned by demographic trends. “Today’s 1.5 billion Muslims make up 22% of the world’s population,” he observes. “But their birth rates dwarf the birth rates of Christians, Hindus, Buddhists, Jews, and all other believers. Muslims will exceed 50% of the world’s population by the end of this century.” source
This is amazing!

Start at 2:45

Terrorists to Attack Inside America 10/19/2023

 

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The antichrist, or future world leader that will assume power. enter the temple. and declair himself to be the messiah will be from eurpose. of what we call the old roman empire. (the final beast) which will be in power when the lord returns.

He will wipe out Islam, Catholicism, and every world religion which apposes him.
 

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Never heard of the man but he is correct. The Man of Sin will come from the Middle East and Islam is his evil empire.