Is a child of God always in the grace, love, and kingdom of God?

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sawdust

sawdust

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know1 said:
Though this thread is not about salvation, or whether a person is osas or not, I'm sure it will morph into that.
Some may ask, how can you not be in the grace, love, or kingdom of God without talking about salvation?
Well, that's part of what I'm asking.
Is the child of God always and forever in the grace, love, and kingdom of God, or are the above mentioned conditional and temporal?
Again, this may look like I am asking if our salvation is conditional based on our works, but I am not. I'm separating salvation from the above mentioned.
If I were to ask, what is the grace of God? Some of you might say, it is the unmerited favor of God.
But is that all it is?
When God told Paul, "my grace is sufficient for thee, was He just saying, it is my will that you suffer and my grace will help you bear it?
After all, you may ask, isn't it the will of God for us to suffer for the name of Christ?
I personally do not agree with this doctrine.
Was God referring to Paul's salvation or situation, when He mentioned His grace being sufficient?
God's grace had nothing to do with Paul's salvation but everything to do with his thorn in the flesh.
So can there be more to God's grace than just His unmerited favor?
Are we in the grace of God if we complain about a situation we don't like, or take medication to alleviate any kind of sufferings?
Many of you, I am sure, would say, of course we are, but are we really?
Those of you who agree with this belief or doctrine, again, are tying God's grace to salvation, and I say, it is not.
Can the grace of God be more about where we are, rather than who we are in Christ?
I asked also, is the grace of God conditional?
I asked the same about the love of God. Is it conditional to be in the love of God?
And what about the kingdom of God? Is it conditional to get in and stay in or not?
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Assuming you are referring to believers only, are we always in it? Yes. Do we always utilize His gift (which requires resting in faith)? No.
 
Blade

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What else did God have to do? Was not His grace enough to help to sustain and provide? Be like if a demon comes up to you and you cry on Jesus to do something. What else can He do for He already gave us all power all authority over the enemy. Christ telling the 12 don't rejoice that demons are subject unto you but that your name is written in heaven.

So yeah there is so much more to Gods grace. Just look into what His word says just about grace.. oh praise GOD GLORY GLORY GLORY to Jesus
 
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