Lost books of the bible?

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Crimeny

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Has anyone read the lost books like the odes of solomon?

Would appreciate if anyone has any commentary of them:

Excerpt:

Ode 14
[FONT=&quot]1[/FONT][FONT=&quot] As the eyes of a son to his father, so are my eyes, O Lord, at all times towards thee.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]2[/FONT][FONT=&quot] For with thee are my consolations and my delight.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]3[/FONT][FONT=&quot] Turn not away thy mercies from me, O Lord: and take not thy kindness from me.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]4[/FONT][FONT=&quot] Stretch out to me, O Lord, at all times thy right hand: and be my guide even unto the end, according to thy good pleasure.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]5[/FONT][FONT=&quot] Let me be well-pleasing before thee, because of thy glory and because of thy name:[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]6[/FONT][FONT=&quot] Let me be preserved from evil, and let thy meekness, O Lord, abide with me, and the fruits of thy love.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]7[/FONT][FONT=&quot] Teach me the Psalms of thy truth, that I may bring forth fruit in thee:[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]8[/FONT][FONT=&quot] And open to me the harp of thy Holy Spirit, that with all its notes I may praise thee, O Lord.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]9[/FONT][FONT=&quot] And according to the multitude of thy tender mercies, so thou shalt give to me; and hasten to grant our petitions; and thou art able for all our needs. Hallelujah.[/FONT]
 
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Ugly

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The 'lost books of the bible', or gnostic gospels, are not 'lost', they were rejected. My understanding is that the majority of these books were not written until after Christs death and the church had become established.
 
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distinctiveministry

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There are many early Christian writings which were excluded from the officially recognized canon, including books with gnostic teachings, books that are much more pro-Judaism than our Bibles, writings which describe more of the missionary activities of Paul and many of the disciples. Some of these are very similar to the books in the accepted canon, while some are entirely different in style and substance. For those that have survived in some form or fashion to the modern day, they can be an interesting read. You have to realize, however, that they probably tell us more about their authors and the early groups for which they were written (by way of inference) than they do about Christ or the apostles. The early councils which first organized and recognized our canon had several criteria that each book had to meet to be considered "authentic", including apostolic authorship (or at least undeniable apostolic teaching), sound doctrine, original content (i.e. not a mere repetition of another accepted book's teaching) and a few other things. Of course, "sound doctrine" and "apostolic teaching" were a matter of debate themselves, but the councils consisted of representatives from places all over the Roman empire and from the majority expression of Christianity of the time. Far and away the best accessible book on the topic that I can recommend is Bart Erhman's "Lost Christianities: The Battles for Scripture and the Faiths We Never Knew". This particular author will raise the hackles and ire of some on CC, but the book is a good overview of these "lost" writings and who wrote them and what they stood for.
 
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AnandaHya

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Ugly said:
The 'lost books of the bible', or gnostic gospels, are not 'lost', they were rejected. My understanding is that the majority of these books were not written until after Christs death and the church had become established.
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yep Rejected for a reason,

but you got to give those itchy ears something NEW. CHANGE!

You know the foundation laid BY JESUS, the Prophets and Apostles is not enough. We need "Change" :rolleyes:

Did the sarcasm come through?

Fighting for the Faith: Gnostic Gospel Slithers Its Way Into The Church

anyways if you want to know something about gnostic gospels and its current form in the modern church, you can listen to this sermon.

http://podcast.fightingforthefaith.com/fftf/F4F061710.mp3
 
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Crimeny

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okay thanks for the information!
 
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RachelBibleStudent

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the odes of solomon are not solomonic in origin...and actually they never claim to be...

they were only associated with solomon because they were located near other solomonic writings in some ancient versions of the bible...

they appear to have been written by hellenistic jews living between old and new testament times...
 
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Crimeny

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i think that was on the disclaimer.

thanks for replying! I wasn't sure if these were authentic.
 
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