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revelation 19
And after these things I heard a great voice of much people in heaven, saying, Alleluia; Salvation, and glory, and honour, and power, unto the Lord our God:For true and righteous are his judgments: for he hath judged the great whore, which did corrupt the earth with her fornication, and hath avenged the blood of his servants at her hand.
This is the same whore read more
not a real woman
Lotza reading ahead of you
God made us,Every cell has commands.Ask him(i do to)
Love God with all your heart mind and soul,Love your neighber like you love yourself.honor you mother and father,Stay away from idols.
Love a friend in God
revelation 19
And after these things I heard a great voice of much people in heaven, saying, Alleluia; Salvation, and glory, and honour, and power, unto the Lord our God:For true and righteous are his judgments: for he hath judged the great whore, which did corrupt the earth with her fornication, and hath avenged the blood of his servants at her hand.
This is the same whore read more
not a real womanLotza reading ahead of you
God made us,Every cell has commands.Ask him(i do to)
Love God with all your heart mind and soul,Love your neighber like you love yourself.honor you mother and father,Stay away from idols.
Love a friend in God
Pr 6:23For the commandment is a lamp; and the law is light; and reproofs of instruction are the way of life:Pr 6:24To keep thee from the evil woman, from the flattery of the tongue of a strange woman.Pr 6:25Lust not after her beauty in thine heart; neither let her take thee with her eyelids.Pr 6:26For by means of a whorish woman a man is brought to a piece of bread: and the adulteress will hunt for the precious life.Pr 6:27Can a man take fire in his bosom, and his clothes not be burned?
You are a college student and you have to ask what this means ????
Mt 5:27Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery:Mt 5:28But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.
Or either you know what it means, and you are looking for a loop hole!!!
No loop Hole here But what is to be found, is strength through Jesus Christ and the power through the Holy Spirit that can help you with that lust, and you can stop looking at the ladies as a sex object, and as a creation Of An Almighty God, someone to love even as God has loved you, and in God's time and with the right one, someone to cherish and admire, to have and to hold. Believe me if He can deliver Me from that lust , He can deliver you!!!! With man this is impossible but with God all things are possible, but remember where your treasure is, there is also your heart, you must want to turn from this lust, surrender it to God.
You are a college student and you have to ask what this means ????
Mt 5:27Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery:Mt 5:28But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.
Or either you know what it means, and you are looking for a loop hole!!!
No loop Hole here But what is to be found, is strength through Jesus Christ and the power through the Holy Spirit that can help you with that lust, and you can stop looking at the ladies as a sex object, and as a creation Of An Almighty God, someone to love even as God has loved you, and in God's time and with the right one, someone to cherish and admire, to have and to hold. Believe me if He can deliver Me from that lust , He can deliver you!!!! With man this is impossible but with God all things are possible, but remember where your treasure is, there is also your heart, you must want to turn from this lust, surrender it to God.
B
Apply this to the verse above.
1 John 2:14I have written unto you, fathers, because ye have known him that is from the beginning. I have written unto you, young men, because ye are strong, and the word of God abideth in you, and ye have overcome the wicked one. 15Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him. 16For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world. 17And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever.
1 Corinthians 7: 28But and if thou marry, thou hast not sinned; and if a virgin marry, she hath not sinned. Nevertheless such shall have trouble in the flesh: but I spare you. 29But this I say, brethren, the time is short: it remaineth, that both they that have wives be as though they had none; 30And they that weep, as though they wept not; and they that rejoice, as though they rejoiced not; and they that buy, as though they possessed not; 31And they that use this world, as not abusing it: for the fashion of this world passeth away. 32But I would have you without carefulness. He that is unmarried careth for the things that belong to the Lord, how he may please the Lord: 33But he that is married careth for the things that are of the world, how he may please his wife.
Television, movies, music, advertisements, and the swimsuit edition of Sports Illustrated ought to be obvious as to why some, if not many of us will have trouble in the flesh. Ask Him for help to put those things away and set your mind on the things above.
Romans 13: 13Let us walk honestly, as in the day; not in rioting and drunkenness, not in chambering and wantonness, not in strife and envying. 14But put ye on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make not provision for the flesh, to fulfil the lusts thereof.
1 John 2:14I have written unto you, fathers, because ye have known him that is from the beginning. I have written unto you, young men, because ye are strong, and the word of God abideth in you, and ye have overcome the wicked one. 15Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him. 16For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world. 17And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever.
1 Corinthians 7: 28But and if thou marry, thou hast not sinned; and if a virgin marry, she hath not sinned. Nevertheless such shall have trouble in the flesh: but I spare you. 29But this I say, brethren, the time is short: it remaineth, that both they that have wives be as though they had none; 30And they that weep, as though they wept not; and they that rejoice, as though they rejoiced not; and they that buy, as though they possessed not; 31And they that use this world, as not abusing it: for the fashion of this world passeth away. 32But I would have you without carefulness. He that is unmarried careth for the things that belong to the Lord, how he may please the Lord: 33But he that is married careth for the things that are of the world, how he may please his wife.
Television, movies, music, advertisements, and the swimsuit edition of Sports Illustrated ought to be obvious as to why some, if not many of us will have trouble in the flesh. Ask Him for help to put those things away and set your mind on the things above.
Romans 13: 13Let us walk honestly, as in the day; not in rioting and drunkenness, not in chambering and wantonness, not in strife and envying. 14But put ye on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make not provision for the flesh, to fulfil the lusts thereof.
T
It is talking about many things...
as a deep parable it is talking about the woman "folly" that if you stray from being faithful to your wife "wisdom" you will fall helplessly into...
Pr 6:24To keep thee from the evil woman, from the flattery of the tongue of a strange woman.
ESV writes
to preserve you from the evil woman, from the smooth tongue of the adulteress.
SO who is this strange woman? It is folly but it is also Satan...
Think about it: the proverb is telling you to follow and hold to instruction or you will perish, and then this verse...
So it is telling you to hold to the straight path of holiness that leads to eternal life, and DO NOT be led astray by the 'flowery' or 'proverse' teachings of a 'strange woman'...
Most of your teachers have probably fallen into this adulteress if you go to a secular school...I know mine did at Christopher Newport University...they have been led astray into vain teachings of man rather than continuing in a simple childlike faith in and love of God...but thinking themselves wise--the Lord has made them fools...
But also you directly...don't be led astray by the council of psuedo-friends that want you to leave God and pursue worldliness---be it sex, drugs, alcohol, women, or anything else that this world sees as 'worthy pursuits'...as they will do nothing but claim a blood-sucking hold on your life, even as another proverb says "They say drinking stolen water is great, but they do not know that it will cost them their lives..."--Tony's paraphrase...did not look that one up, but thats the gest of what it says.
But also your hormones are probably fairly active, and yes some women may entice you to bed; possibly causing you to loose your sense that sex is holy and is meant most profoundly for bringing life, aka a baby into this world...but yes this is something that is a pandora's box that is best left alone and always having sex be considered holy, then profaning it and then struggling to regain a sense of holiness in it.
God bless
May the Lord strengthen you,
so that you can withstand whatever test is put upon you
tony the lesser
as a deep parable it is talking about the woman "folly" that if you stray from being faithful to your wife "wisdom" you will fall helplessly into...
Pr 6:24To keep thee from the evil woman, from the flattery of the tongue of a strange woman.
ESV writes
to preserve you from the evil woman, from the smooth tongue of the adulteress.
SO who is this strange woman? It is folly but it is also Satan...
Think about it: the proverb is telling you to follow and hold to instruction or you will perish, and then this verse...
So it is telling you to hold to the straight path of holiness that leads to eternal life, and DO NOT be led astray by the 'flowery' or 'proverse' teachings of a 'strange woman'...
Most of your teachers have probably fallen into this adulteress if you go to a secular school...I know mine did at Christopher Newport University...they have been led astray into vain teachings of man rather than continuing in a simple childlike faith in and love of God...but thinking themselves wise--the Lord has made them fools...
But also you directly...don't be led astray by the council of psuedo-friends that want you to leave God and pursue worldliness---be it sex, drugs, alcohol, women, or anything else that this world sees as 'worthy pursuits'...as they will do nothing but claim a blood-sucking hold on your life, even as another proverb says "They say drinking stolen water is great, but they do not know that it will cost them their lives..."--Tony's paraphrase...did not look that one up, but thats the gest of what it says.
But also your hormones are probably fairly active, and yes some women may entice you to bed; possibly causing you to loose your sense that sex is holy and is meant most profoundly for bringing life, aka a baby into this world...but yes this is something that is a pandora's box that is best left alone and always having sex be considered holy, then profaning it and then struggling to regain a sense of holiness in it.
God bless
May the Lord strengthen you,
so that you can withstand whatever test is put upon you
tony the lesser
B
I know your problem. It is hard when a female walks in front of you with her curves and clothes, but what you must do is if you do notice this, look the other way, and if you do look, remind yourself what you are doing and stop as soon as you realize what your doing is wrong. It happens, we are human and there is no getting around that. But once you realize what you do, repent. Its never too late to ask God for forgiveness on any sin. It may take time to practice looking away but just dont give up, just keep trying and keep repenting, but dont repent and just do it thinking you will get forgiven, because you wont! You have to really try and really mean your repenting. If it was easy, God wouldnt have sent Jesus!
THE PSYCHOLOGY OF WHAT TO DO WITH LUST
The word lust (GK epithymia) comes from two words that point to an inflamed desire or passion that boils up to the point of being consumed or taken over. This consuming desire or passion can be for good things as well as for evil things in various forms.
Example 1: You need transportation and instead of buying a car within your means, you burn with desire for this one vehicle because you have to have it and you would not be satisfied with anything else. That is a form of lust and you can even be a poor person and have the same problem with coveting.
Example 2: You see a member of the opposite sex and you become inflamed with desire and passion and you have to have what you see. It can happen with more than one and it becomes uncontrolled and it takes over the mind, the emotions and you are constantly occupied with it by making a provision for it in your flesh (Rom 13:14). This can happen with any form of lust that becomes coveted in the flesh.
Lust can really be defined for the believer as anything that is desired outside the will of God. This is why it is so important to be led and to walk in the Spirit, so that we do not fulfil the lust of the flesh (Gal 5:16) or the desires of the flesh and of the mind (Eph 2:3).
James 1:13-16 'Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man: But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed. Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death. Do not err, my beloved brethren'.
In (1Jn 2:16) the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes and the pride of life is of the world and not of the Father. The world and the lust thereof will pass away but he that does the will of the Father abides forever (v/17). When we are tempted and drawn away of our own lust and enticed, it is of the world and not of the Father, therefore any form of lust draws us away from the will of the Father.
What do we do with lust and how do we deal with it? In (Gal 5:24) when we believed upon Christ we became God's possession therefore we belong to him (1Cor 6:19,20). Being in Christ we have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts. That means positionally that the cross of Christ has crucified our flesh so that we can be free from the control of the affections and lusts of the flesh. When we are tempted to be drawn into any form of lust, we simple put it off because it belongs to the flesh that has been crucified. We don't let it draw us away with enticement, because that will lead to sin and death. We put it off just like we take a coat off and lay it aside and we put on Christ, making no provision for the flesh (Rom 13:11-14, Eph 4:22-32, Col 3:8-14). We do not have to strive in doing this and it is not something that we have to keep repenting of. It says in (Heb 12:1) to set aside the weight and sin that so easily besets you. God makes it easy. Jesus said that whatever you are struggling and laboring with, 'Come and learn of me, for my yoke is easy and by burden is light' (Mt 11:28-30).
God does not want us to be entangled or yoked up with any form of lust because it is contrary the cross and the will of the Father. We don't have to beat up ourselves because of lust. The next time you are tempted with any kind of lust, stop what you are doing and study to be quiet before God. Do it by faith and let the Holy Spirit minister and quicken you with Christ's life through what you have been taught by the word. When you do that you are putting off the lust by making no provision for it and you are putting on Christ. That all can be done in quietness and assurance. That is how we yield the members of our body unto righteousness and experience the effects of that righteousness (Rom 6:12-14, Is 32:17).
The word lust (GK epithymia) comes from two words that point to an inflamed desire or passion that boils up to the point of being consumed or taken over. This consuming desire or passion can be for good things as well as for evil things in various forms.
Example 1: You need transportation and instead of buying a car within your means, you burn with desire for this one vehicle because you have to have it and you would not be satisfied with anything else. That is a form of lust and you can even be a poor person and have the same problem with coveting.
Example 2: You see a member of the opposite sex and you become inflamed with desire and passion and you have to have what you see. It can happen with more than one and it becomes uncontrolled and it takes over the mind, the emotions and you are constantly occupied with it by making a provision for it in your flesh (Rom 13:14). This can happen with any form of lust that becomes coveted in the flesh.
Lust can really be defined for the believer as anything that is desired outside the will of God. This is why it is so important to be led and to walk in the Spirit, so that we do not fulfil the lust of the flesh (Gal 5:16) or the desires of the flesh and of the mind (Eph 2:3).
James 1:13-16 'Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man: But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed. Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death. Do not err, my beloved brethren'.
In (1Jn 2:16) the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes and the pride of life is of the world and not of the Father. The world and the lust thereof will pass away but he that does the will of the Father abides forever (v/17). When we are tempted and drawn away of our own lust and enticed, it is of the world and not of the Father, therefore any form of lust draws us away from the will of the Father.
What do we do with lust and how do we deal with it? In (Gal 5:24) when we believed upon Christ we became God's possession therefore we belong to him (1Cor 6:19,20). Being in Christ we have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts. That means positionally that the cross of Christ has crucified our flesh so that we can be free from the control of the affections and lusts of the flesh. When we are tempted to be drawn into any form of lust, we simple put it off because it belongs to the flesh that has been crucified. We don't let it draw us away with enticement, because that will lead to sin and death. We put it off just like we take a coat off and lay it aside and we put on Christ, making no provision for the flesh (Rom 13:11-14, Eph 4:22-32, Col 3:8-14). We do not have to strive in doing this and it is not something that we have to keep repenting of. It says in (Heb 12:1) to set aside the weight and sin that so easily besets you. God makes it easy. Jesus said that whatever you are struggling and laboring with, 'Come and learn of me, for my yoke is easy and by burden is light' (Mt 11:28-30).
God does not want us to be entangled or yoked up with any form of lust because it is contrary the cross and the will of the Father. We don't have to beat up ourselves because of lust. The next time you are tempted with any kind of lust, stop what you are doing and study to be quiet before God. Do it by faith and let the Holy Spirit minister and quicken you with Christ's life through what you have been taught by the word. When you do that you are putting off the lust by making no provision for it and you are putting on Christ. That all can be done in quietness and assurance. That is how we yield the members of our body unto righteousness and experience the effects of that righteousness (Rom 6:12-14, Is 32:17).
R
EVERYONE
Thank you for the helpful words, and verses...
I made a promise to God that I would save sex for marriage, and I am still keeping my promise today as a male College Student.
It getting harder every year, but praying, reading the bible is helping..
Thanks again for the helpful words everyone.
Thank you for the helpful words, and verses...
I made a promise to God that I would save sex for marriage, and I am still keeping my promise today as a male College Student.
It getting harder every year, but praying, reading the bible is helping..
Thanks again for the helpful words everyone.
M
"Lust" goes beyond the illicit desire to have physical relations with someone....anyone...even a wife (if it is not a mutual agreement to have intercourse, it is rape fostered by lust). Lust is the illicit desire for ANYTHING that you don't have. It is jealousy and greed as well. It is the wanting something to satisfy the flesh or emotions. Shopoholics lust after the ACT of buying; many executives lust after more power; overweight people lust after food in the form of glutony. There are many forms of lust. There is sensual lust and the lust of the eyes which pretty much covers everything else that we see and want. This is not to say that it is not OK to desire any given item. But the key is to ask: Do I need it? WHY do I need it? How will it help me further the Kingdom? Do I have my Father's blessing in acquiring it and can I get it now or must I wait on Him to provide it.
Maggie
Maggie
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