Magic Lantern

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Modern television of today has always been around since 1646 which at that time it was called the Magic Lantern. Television has controlled masses of people for period of time. I know some folks do not like Wikipedia, but I am going to used the information because it is important. The masses of folks has be controlled by devil for long time through magic, Hollywood(weird), sorcery, occultism, and witchcraft. Below are two resources and please read the one from Wikipedia.



History of Magic Lanterns


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[TD]The Magic Lantern that you will see at this performance dates from the 1870 - 1880 period. At this time the art of projection of both still and moving images reached the zenith of technical brilliance during the Victorian era. The most exquisite of these lantern slides were completely hand-painted, but photographic images were also used.
The Magic Lantern played a very important part in Victorian society. Temperance and religious lectures were given but the lantern was also used in education, for the demonstration of scientific principles and to relay the latest news of world events. Eerie 'Phantasmagoria' shows were given in Victorian parlours that were the equivalent of present day horror films.

The history of the Magic Lantern goes very much further back than the Victorians. Recent research has indicated that a form of 'Magic Lantern' may have existed in the time of Solomon. Aristotle developed the theoretical basis of the science of optics. With Friar Roger Bacon, born in 1214, the art-science of light and shadow reached a point at which magic shadow entertainment devices could be built. Leonardo da Vinci invented the 'bulls-eye' lens, a primitive but effective condenser. In the second quarter of the seventeenth century a Jesuit priest, Athanasius Kircher, was credited with the invention of the 'Magic Lantern'. The chief problem in Kircher's day was to provide sufficient light. Early illuminants included the sun, candles and oil lamps. Much later limelight and carbon-arc illuminants were introduced, but the final solution arrived several centuries after Kircher with the invention of electric light. [/TD]
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The eighteenth century saw the birth of 'Phantasmagoria'. This was a type of light and shadow show popular immediately after the French Revolution in Paris in the late 1790's. It was a throwback to the medieval use of light and shadow to trick and deceive audiences. The chief exponent of these terrifying shows was a Belgian, who called himself Robertson and held his 'seances' in an abandoned Capuchin chapel in Paris.
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[TD]Here his shadows and ghosts came to life amongst the mortal remains of the monks which adorned the walls of the chapel. By the novel means of moving the lantern back and forth behind the semi-transparent screen, Robertson's ghosts would seem to grow and then disappear.The first half of the nineteenth century saw a progression from the itinerant 'galante show' lanternist, who would for a few pence entertain the children of rich folk or passersby - to the spectacular and very beautiful lantern shows given by Mr. Childe and Mr. Hill in the 1840's at the Royal Regent Street Polytechnic. These shows involved the use of several lanterns and quantities of large hand-painted slides to produce 'dissolving views', multiple effects and illusions of movement. The slides that these men painted are the finest that were ever produced by hand painting. The images produced were often 2000 square feet or more, and the use of the beautiful but highly dangerous hydrogen-oxygen 'limelight' enabled these images to be shown to large audiences. Behind the screen the appropriate music and sound effects were produced.
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[TD]created some of the most exquisite transparencies in the history of the Magic Lantern. After 1860 the quality of most of the slides began to deteriorate, engravings and drawings being transferred to glass by photographic means and then coloured by hand. In contrast to the slides the lanterns continued to be improved technically. Bi-unial, tri-unial and even quad-unial lanterns were produced, i.e. lanterns with from two to four projection tubes mounted vertically on the lantern, this was for the multiple projection of dissolving views and mechanical movement slides.
With the advent of cinema the days of the big lantern shows were numbered. However, the Magic Lantern was still used for the projection of single slides in schools and institutes until very recent times. Photographic and printed slides were still being manufactured in 1940.




Magic lantern

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_lantern


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There has been some debate about who the original inventor of the magic lantern is, but the most widely accepted theory is thatChristiaan Huygens developed the original device in the late 1650s.[SUP][5][/SUP] In the fifteenth century, however, Giovanni Fontana, a Venetian engineer, had already created a lantern that projected an image of a demon. Other sources credit the German priest Athanasius Kircher, who describes a device similar to a magic lantern in his book Ars Magna Lucis et Umbrae.[SUP][3][/SUP][SUP][6][/SUP] There are possible mentions of this device associated with Kircher as early as 1646. Even in its earliest use, it was demonstrated with monstrous images such as the Devil.[SUP][2][/SUP]Huygens's device was even referred to as the "lantern of fright" because it was able to project spooky images that looked like apparitions.[SUP][4][/SUP] In its early development, it was mostly used by magicians and conjurers to project images, making them appear or disappear, transform from one scene into a different scene, animate normally inanimate objects, or even create the belief of bringing the dead back to life.[SUP][7][/SUP]
In the 1660s, a man named Thomas Walgensten used his so-called "lantern of fear" to summon ghosts. Such uses of this early machine were not uncommon. In fact, a common setup of the machine was to keep parts of the projector in a separate, adjoining room with only the aperture visible, to make it seem more magical and scare people. By the 18th century, use by charlatans was common for religious reasons. For example, Count Cagliostro used it to "raise dead spirits" in Egyptian masonry. Johann Georg Schröpfer of Leipzig used the magic lantern to conjure up images of spirits on smoke. Schröpfer later went insane, thinking he was pursued by real devils, and shot himself after promising an audience he would later resurrect himself.[SUP][7][/SUP]

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maxwel

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WarriorHadassah;2302324[B said:
]Modern television of today has always been around since 1646 which at that time it was called the Magic Lantern. Television has controlled masses of people for period of time[/B]. I know some folks do not like Wikipedia, but I am going to used the information because it is important. The masses of folks has be controlled by devil for long time through magic, Hollywood(weird), sorcery, occultism, and witchcraft. Below are two resources and please read the one from Wikipedia.


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Nonsense

1. The Magic Lantern's real name was the "optical lantern" and it had nothing to do with magic.

2. The Magic Lantern had NOTHING to do with modern television... it was just a primitive slide projector.

3. The Magic Lantern had no moving pictures like television... it had only simple still images.

4. The Magic Lantern was not BROADCAST over great distance like television... it had to be shown in a single room.

5. The Magic Lantern didn't "control the masses" any more than 1 guy could do standing up talking in a room.

6. The Magic Lantern has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with modern television.

I have NO IDEA how you can try and turn a SIMPLE SLIDE PROJECTOR into a conspiracy.

Just silly.

What are you reading at night?

Where do you get this stuff?
 
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Nonsense

1. The Magic Lantern's real name was the "optical lantern" and it had nothing to do with magic.

2. The Magic Lantern had NOTHING to do with modern television... it was just a primitive slide projector.

3. The Magic Lantern had no moving pictures like television... it had only simple still images.

4. The Magic Lantern was not BROADCAST over great distance like television... it had to be shown in a single room.

5. The Magic Lantern didn't "control the masses" any more than 1 guy could do standing up talking in a room.

6. The Magic Lantern has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with modern television.

I have NO IDEA how you can try and turn a SIMPLE SLIDE PROJECTOR into a conspiracy.

Just silly.

What are you reading at night?

Where do you get this stuff?

Good Evening,

You did not read the information from the two websites. You are very shrewd with your words and cunning. Have a beautiful evening maxwel with joy, freedom, peace, and victory in life. Do you have a dance or song in your heart maxwel!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Tou8-Cz8is

[h=1]Harry Belafonte - Banana Boat Song (Day-O)[/h]
 
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tanach

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This Forum needs a Psychiatrist to oversee it. I rate the theory that Television being the work of the devil as being as illogical
as Cameras capturing your soul if your picture is taken.
 
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This Forum needs a Psychiatrist to oversee it. I rate the theory that Television being the work of the devil as being as illogical as Cameras capturing your soul if your picture is taken.
Look at the cat posted in your profile pic...clearly he's not smiling because his soul has been captured by the camera. So it does work. :p
 

Nautilus

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Look at the cat posted in your profile pic...clearly he's not smiling because his soul has been captured by the camera. So it does work. :p
Lol another conspiracy...cats dont hvae souls, they are nothing more than living balls of anger
 

maxwel

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Lol another conspiracy...cats dont hvae souls, they are nothing more than living balls of anger
Please don't come into this thread and confuse a FAKE conspiracy about magic lanterns with a REAL conspiracy about cats.

We all know what cats are really up to.
 
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Look at the cat posted in your profile pic...clearly he's not smiling because his soul has been captured by the camera. So it does work. :p
That's Monty he may not look happy but he is laughing inside.
 
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tanach

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Look at the cat posted in your profile pic...clearly he's not smiling because his soul has been captured by the camera. So it does work. :p
That's Dylan. He may not look happy but hes laughing inside.
 
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tanach

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Lol another conspiracy...cats dont hvae souls, they are nothing more than living balls of anger
My Cats have Soul they like Aretha Franklin, and are very laid back
 
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This Forum needs a Psychiatrist to oversee it. I rate the theory that Television being the work of the devil as being as illogical
as Cameras capturing your soul if your picture is taken.

Are you kidding,it's not just the conspiracy forum that needs a psychiatrist to oversee it, sometimes I think it's the whole website!!:)
 
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jaybird88

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Good Evening,

You did not read the information from the two websites. You are very shrewd with your words and cunning. Have a beautiful evening maxwel with joy, freedom, peace, and victory in life. Do you have a dance or song in your heart maxwel!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Tou8-Cz8is

Harry Belafonte - Banana Boat Song (Day-O)
i agree with you and yes its pretty amusing when trolls base their arguments on ignorance. ignorance is bliss right? lol
here is a simple question for those that think this is "nonsense". 1 guy watches 6 hrs of tv a day, another does not. which one u think would be more spiritual? one thing a tv does, it teaches you not to think, plain and simple. nothing wrong with a little entertainment but most over indulge in tv, and cant think.
 

maxwel

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i agree with you and yes its pretty amusing when trolls base their arguments on ignorance. ignorance is bliss right? lol
here is a simple question for those that think this is "nonsense". 1 guy watches 6 hrs of tv a day, another does not. which one u think would be more spiritual? one thing a tv does, it teaches you not to think, plain and simple. nothing wrong with a little entertainment but most over indulge in tv, and cant think.
The argument here is NOT about the evils of TELEVISION.

The thread title is NOT about TELEVISION.


This thread is about MAGIC LANTERNS... and trying to claim the magic lantern is a television.



The technical name for a "magic lantern" is simply "Optical Lantern".
It wasn't magic, nobody claimed it was magic, it had nothing to do with the occult, and it WAS NOT a television... it was nothing more than a slide projector.

- A magic lantern was ONLY a simple slide projector...
working on the same principle as making "shadow puppets" on the wall with your fingers.

- This has been around for thousands of years.

- If you think making shadow puppets on the wall with your fingers is a Satanic conspiracy...
then every parent on the earth is going to hell.





 
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The argument here is NOT about the evils of TELEVISION.

The thread title is NOT about TELEVISION.


This thread is about MAGIC LANTERNS... and trying to claim the magic lantern is a television.



The technical name for a "magic lantern" is simply "Optical Lantern".
It wasn't magic, nobody claimed it was magic, it had nothing to do with the occult, and it WAS NOT a television... it was nothing more than a slide projector.

- A magic lantern was ONLY a simple slide projector...
working on the same principle as making "shadow puppets" on the wall with your fingers.

- This has been around for thousands of years.

- If you think making shadow puppets on the wall with your fingers is a Satanic conspiracy...
then every parent on the earth is going to hell.
it is about the evils of tv
it is about television
it is not about the details of how a magic lantern works. rather what one could be used for

the thread is simply pointing out the similarities of the 2 and how they can be used to divert ones thoughts.

you are so focused on trolling you completely missed the point. its not that hard to see.
 

maxwel

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it is about the evils of tv
it is about television
it is not about the details of how a magic lantern works. rather what one could be used for

the thread is simply pointing out the similarities of the 2 and how they can be used to divert ones thoughts.

you are so focused on trolling you completely missed the point. its not that hard to see.
Troll?

Troll?


Alright, fine... here we go.



The OP is making a ridiculous assertion ATTEMPTING, with complete ABSURDITY, to compare TV to MAGIC LANTERNS.

The OP mentions "Television" only 2 times, and only in the first paragraph.
Then the OP STOPS talking about "Television", COMPLETELY, and NEVER MENTIONS IT AGAIN.
Then the OP goes on a rant about the "Magic Lantern", and mentions it 14 times.
After the first paragraph, "Television" is never mentioned again.

This is NOT a POST ABOUT COMPARISONS.

AFTER THE VERY FIRST SENTENCE, there is NO COMPARISON made again, not ever, of Television and Magic Lanterns.
The two are only compared 1 time, in the very first sentence.
The OP makes ONE very bad comparison, then goes off an a rant about Magic Lanterns for the entire rest of the post...
it is NOT a post full of comparisons.
It is ONE COMPARISON ONLY, followed by a RANT.

After the first sentence, there are ZERO COMPARISONS given between Television and Magic Lanterns
How can I say this?
How can I say there are NO comparisons made between Television and Magic Lanterns?
I can say that, BECAUSE THEY AREN'T THERE!
THEY AREN'T IN THE TEXT.

There are ZERO COMPARISONS given between Television and Magic Lanterns... beyond the first sentence.
(And the first sentence is absurd, and historically false.)

Since there is ONLY 1 COMPARISON GIVEN... LET'S EXAMINE IT.

The OP actually starts the first paragraph by saying something utterly absurd, and provably false.
In the first paragraph the OP says that Television and the Magic Lantern are the SAME THING.
She says "Magic Lantern" was just an EARLIER NAME for what we now call "Television".
"Modern television of today has always been around since 1646 which at that time it was called the Magic Lantern."
Very clearly, she says "Magic Lantern" was just an EARLIER NAME for what we now call "Television".

Let's put this in bold type, so nobody misses it.
The OP says the Magic Lantern was just an EARLIER NAME for what we now call Television...
they are the SAME THING.


This is really too silly to even debate.
This is like pointing at a cup of tea and calling it a biscuit.

These are two completely different inventions:
- They are built differently
- They function differently,
- They deliver completely different results.
Magic Lantern:
- The Magic Lantern was nothing but a slide projector... like making shadow puppets on the wall with your fingers.
Except it wasn't as sophisticated as your own fingers... your own fingers can create moving shadows... a Magic Lantern could only produce a still image.
Television:
- A television system is incredibly sophisticated: it CAPTURES MOVING IMAGES, then converts the images into ELECTRICAL SIGNALS (essentially radio waves) and then BROADCASTS THEM OVER GREAT DISTANCES, after which they are RECAPTURED and COnVERTED BACK INTO VIEWABLE IMAGES.

Just in case there is any more confusion about Television and Magic Lanterns being "the same thing"...
there wasn't even a demonstration of the first crappy television until 1925, in London, by John Logie Baird.
Television DID NOT EXIST BEFORE THEN.

In summary:
1. The OP is NOT making a "list" of comparisons between "Television" and "Magic Lanterns".
2. The OP makes EXACTLY ONE comparison between the two, in the first sentence.
3. The OP makes EXACTLY ZERO comparisons after the first sentence.
4. The comparison in the first sentence is SILLY, & PROVABLY FALSE.
5. This whole post was ONE RIDICULOUS ASSERTION, and THEN AN UNRELATED RANT.
 
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jaybird88

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Troll?

Troll?


Alright, fine... here we go.



The OP is making a ridiculous assertion ATTEMPTING, with complete ABSURDITY, to compare TV to MAGIC LANTERNS.

The OP mentions "Television" only 2 times, and only in the first paragraph.
Then the OP STOPS talking about "Television", COMPLETELY, and NEVER MENTIONS IT AGAIN.
Then the OP goes on a rant about the "Magic Lantern", and mentions it 14 times.
After the first paragraph, "Television" is never mentioned again.

This is NOT a POST ABOUT COMPARISONS.

AFTER THE VERY FIRST SENTENCE, there is NO COMPARISON made again, not ever, of Television and Magic Lanterns.
The two are only compared 1 time, in the very first sentence.
The OP makes ONE very bad comparison, then goes off an a rant about Magic Lanterns for the entire rest of the post...
it is NOT a post full of comparisons.
It is ONE COMPARISON ONLY, followed by a RANT.

After the first sentence, there are ZERO COMPARISONS given between Television and Magic Lanterns
How can I say this?
How can I say there are NO comparisons made between Television and Magic Lanterns?
I can say that, BECAUSE THEY AREN'T THERE!
THEY AREN'T IN THE TEXT.

There are ZERO COMPARISONS given between Television and Magic Lanterns... beyond the first sentence.
(And the first sentence is absurd, and historically false.)

Since there is ONLY 1 COMPARISON GIVEN... LET'S EXAMINE IT.

The OP actually starts the first paragraph by saying something utterly absurd, and provably false.
In the first paragraph the OP says that Television and the Magic Lantern are the SAME THING.
She says "Magic Lantern" was just an EARLIER NAME for what we now call "Television".
"Modern television of today has always been around since 1646 which at that time it was called the Magic Lantern."
Very clearly, she says "Magic Lantern" was just an EARLIER NAME for what we now call "Television".

Let's put this in bold type, so nobody misses it.
The OP says the Magic Lantern was just an EARLIER NAME for what we now call Television...
they are the SAME THING.


This is really too silly to even debate.
This is like pointing at a cup of tea and calling it a biscuit.

These are two completely different inventions:
- They are built differently
- They function differently,
- They deliver completely different results.
Magic Lantern:
- The Magic Lantern was nothing but a slide projector... like making shadow puppets on the wall with your fingers.
Except it wasn't as sophisticated as your own fingers... your own fingers can create moving shadows... a Magic Lantern could only produce a still image.
Television:
- A television system is incredibly sophisticated: it CAPTURES MOVING IMAGES, then converts the images into ELECTRICAL SIGNALS (essentially radio waves) and then BROADCASTS THEM OVER GREAT DISTANCES, after which they are RECAPTURED and COnVERTED BACK INTO VIEWABLE IMAGES.

Just in case there is any more confusion about Television and Magic Lanterns being "the same thing"...
there wasn't even a demonstration of the first crappy television until 1925, in London, by John Logie Baird.
Television DID NOT EXIST BEFORE THEN.

In summary:
1. The OP is NOT making a "list" of comparisons between "Television" and "Magic Lanterns".
2. The OP makes EXACTLY ONE comparison between the two, in the first sentence.
3. The OP makes EXACTLY ZERO comparisons after the first sentence.
4. The comparison in the first sentence is SILLY, & PROVABLY FALSE.
5. This whole post was ONE RIDICULOUS ASSERTION, and THEN AN UNRELATED RANT.
No , again right away you are missing the point. The op is saying tv and the lanterns are used for the same thing. That does not make them the same thing.


The first paragraph is the op, the rest is wiki.


His point is the leaders deceiving the masses. Not how a tv works, not how a magic lantern works.

"Modern television of today has always been around since 1646 which at that time it was called the Magic Lantern."


The op is making a deliberate exaggeration to make a point. Corrupt leaders deceive the masses and some things never change. I do not believe the op was trying to tell us that in the year 1646 there was a family sitting in a thatched roof home watching I love lucy..



again, you are missing the point. But you dont want to see the point. You just want to slap the guy down and call him names. Why?
i dont like trolls. you people infect the real world just like you infect these boards. always trying to create a problem when there is not a problem, taking great pleasure in slapping someone down for expressing their opinion.

people should be encouraged to express their thoughts and opinions. yet so many do not because they are scared of what others might think.
notice how the op speaks to you with kindness and courtesy, notice how you speak to them with rudeness and insults. what does that say?
here is an idea, why not discuss the subject like an adult rather than insult him like a jr high student.
 
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chancer

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Why do people turn everything into sin and evil ... and if tv's so bad why are you sitting in-front of its twice as evil twin ... on-line through your laptop/computer ... pretending that's any better ... gosh give yourselves a shake .... watching the new star-wars film would be a better use of time ...
 

tanakh

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Nonsense

1. The Magic Lantern's real name was the "optical lantern" and it had nothing to do with magic.

2. The Magic Lantern had NOTHING to do with modern television... it was just a primitive slide projector.

3. The Magic Lantern had no moving pictures like television... it had only simple still images.

4. The Magic Lantern was not BROADCAST over great distance like television... it had to be shown in a single room.

5. The Magic Lantern didn't "control the masses" any more than 1 guy could do standing up talking in a room.

6. The Magic Lantern has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with modern television.

I have NO IDEA how you can try and turn a SIMPLE SLIDE PROJECTOR into a conspiracy.

Just silly.

What are you reading at night?

Where do you get this stuff?
I always thought that Television was invented by Logi Baird. This thread reminded me of a strange story I once heard of a
man with a PC who swore that he received a message from an Alchemist living in the Middle Ages who had invented what he called 'A Box of Lights' he claimed that he had been in regular contact with this person. The story was supposed to be true.