Many of the world view Christian as, dogma!

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Brasspen

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A large portion of the world view Christianity as some kind of dogma. Where you are bowing to the rising sun, and bowing to the setting sun. You are always having to hum and say, 'AMEN'. They see it as a type of slavery.

Along with the dogma they also see Christians who die, or have their children die because they pray to God, rather than seeking medical attention.

I don't see Christian in this way, and was not taught it this way in the church. God, Jesus Christ, is about a loving relationship. Father and son. We are friends with Jesus, not slaves. We have come at our own will, not forced. To do the works of God, is a free will choice, not a, your going to get whipped type of thing. Christianity is what I call, Freedom.

The devil on the other hand, would have you to be religious. Turning your faith in God into slavery.
 

wattie

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A large portion of the world view Christianity as some kind of dogma. Where you are bowing to the rising sun, and bowing to the setting sun. You are always having to hum and say, 'AMEN'. They see it as a type of slavery.

Along with the dogma they also see Christians who die, or have their children die because they pray to God, rather than seeking medical attention.

I don't see Christian in this way, and was not taught it this way in the church. God, Jesus Christ, is about a loving relationship. Father and son. We are friends with Jesus, not slaves. We have come at our own will, not forced. To do the works of God, is a free will choice, not a, your going to get whipped type of thing. Christianity is what I call, Freedom.

The devil on the other hand, would have you to be religious. Turning your faith in God into slavery.
Yeah, freed from chains through the power of the Holy Spirit cleansing us from all sin.

Not a higher purchase agreement or list of rules.

A sinner ×can't× keep a list of rules to be eternally saved.

They will either boast about trying to keep them all...which would be sinning anyway..or completely fail at keeping them and be condemned.

The later case brings the sinner to the mercy seat of Jesus.
 
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A large portion of the world view Christianity as some kind of dogma. Where you are bowing to the rising sun, and bowing to the setting sun. You are always having to hum and say, 'AMEN'. They see it as a type of slavery.

Along with the dogma they also see Christians who die, or have their children die because they pray to God, rather than seeking medical attention.

I don't see Christian in this way, and was not taught it this way in the church. God, Jesus Christ, is about a loving relationship. Father and son. We are friends with Jesus, not slaves. We have come at our own will, not forced. To do the works of God, is a free will choice, not a, your going to get whipped type of thing. Christianity is what I call, Freedom.

The devil on the other hand, would have you to be religious. Turning your faith in God into slavery.
2Ti 4:2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.
2Ti 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
2Ti 4:4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

New age christianity that will take over the world.

There is a lot of talk about how people are not for a religion, and Christianity is not for modern times.

Science saying that we do not cease to exist and the Bible is true saying modern Science is giving the correct interpretation of the Bible having new discoveries giving them the correct interpretation of the Bible, and Christians are interpreting the Bible wrong.

Believing aliens will help mankind to have peace, advance, and evolve.

Which Science say that they have proof of aliens, life on other planets, and receiving laser messages from space.

People believe what they want to believe to exalt themselves.

All that talk about Christians are slaves and they do not think for themselves is nonsense.

For everybody follows someone and thinks like them and obeys them.

For what will they be a lone wolf with their own reality that nobody else adheres to.

But they will follow what ha already been out in thinking and doing.

They will end up following and worshipping the New Age Christ all the while saying you are a slave if you are a Christian.

And this New Age Christ will put them all in the cities like a concentration camp and be strict with them.

United Nations Agenda 21 for the 21st century which is known as Agenda 30 for the year 2030 when they want it implemented.

They want to move all people in to the cities, and no development can happen outside city limits, and the people are the police force.

They want to give the people a microchip under the skin linked to satellite like a GPS tracking system for humans.

They can watch the people, and know their location, and if a crime happens they will know who was in the area, and how close they were to the crime scene.

This will cut out judges, lawyers, and the now known police force.

All information about the person will be on the chip including finances for it is the one world economic system.

Rev 13:16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
Rev 13:17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
Rev 13:18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

chi xi stigma
khee xee stig'-ma
The 22nd, 14th and an obsolete letter (G4742 as a cross) of the Greek alphabet (intermediate between the 5th and 6th), used as numbers; denoting respectively 600, 60 and 6; 666 as a numeral: - six hundred threescore and six.

stigma
stig'-mah
From a primary word στίζω stizō (to “stick”, that is, prick); a mark incised or punched (for recognition of ownership), that is, (figuratively) scar of service: - mark.

The mark of the beast is something stuck under something and since it is given to a person it is stuck under their skin.

The New Age Christ's agenda is there is no personal God to help mankind but their technology can help them to deter crime, and have peace.

The microchip is the mark of the beast to deter crime, and have peace, people trying to have peace not believing in a personal God to help them.
 

Melach

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2Ti 4:2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.
2Ti 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
2Ti 4:4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

New age christianity that will take over the world.

There is a lot of talk about how people are not for a religion, and Christianity is not for modern times.

Science saying that we do not cease to exist and the Bible is true saying modern Science is giving the correct interpretation of the Bible having new discoveries giving them the correct interpretation of the Bible, and Christians are interpreting the Bible wrong.

Believing aliens will help mankind to have peace, advance, and evolve.

Which Science say that they have proof of aliens, life on other planets, and receiving laser messages from space.

People believe what they want to believe to exalt themselves.

All that talk about Christians are slaves and they do not think for themselves is nonsense.

For everybody follows someone and thinks like them and obeys them.

For what will they be a lone wolf with their own reality that nobody else adheres to.

But they will follow what ha already been out in thinking and doing.

They will end up following and worshipping the New Age Christ all the while saying you are a slave if you are a Christian.

And this New Age Christ will put them all in the cities like a concentration camp and be strict with them.

United Nations Agenda 21 for the 21st century which is known as Agenda 30 for the year 2030 when they want it implemented.

They want to move all people in to the cities, and no development can happen outside city limits, and the people are the police force.

They want to give the people a microchip under the skin linked to satellite like a GPS tracking system for humans.

They can watch the people, and know their location, and if a crime happens they will know who was in the area, and how close they were to the crime scene.

This will cut out judges, lawyers, and the now known police force.

All information about the person will be on the chip including finances for it is the one world economic system.

Rev 13:16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
Rev 13:17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
Rev 13:18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

chi xi stigma
khee xee stig'-ma
The 22nd, 14th and an obsolete letter (G4742 as a cross) of the Greek alphabet (intermediate between the 5th and 6th), used as numbers; denoting respectively 600, 60 and 6; 666 as a numeral: - six hundred threescore and six.

stigma
stig'-mah
From a primary word στίζω stizō (to “stick”, that is, prick); a mark incised or punched (for recognition of ownership), that is, (figuratively) scar of service: - mark.

The mark of the beast is something stuck under something and since it is given to a person it is stuck under their skin.

The New Age Christ's agenda is there is no personal God to help mankind but their technology can help them to deter crime, and have peace.

The microchip is the mark of the beast to deter crime, and have peace, people trying to have peace not believing in a personal God to help them.
i'll take the microchip on my left hand and im good.

i suggest you reconsider what the mark is.
 
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It might be seen as human nature to turn anything into a dogmatic ritual even beyond religion to patriotism, sports attendance, and even family traditions.

It is like making a comfortable nest. For those that would follow Christ, the urge to turn Christianity into a comfortable resting place should be resisted..
 

Edify

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All that talk about Christians are slaves and they do not think for themselves is nonsense.
Some are a slave to their religious beliefs, & don't think for themselves.
The RCC is one of many that have such.
 

Pilgrimshope

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A large portion of the world view Christianity as some kind of dogma. Where you are bowing to the rising sun, and bowing to the setting sun. You are always having to hum and say, 'AMEN'. They see it as a type of slavery.

Along with the dogma they also see Christians who die, or have their children die because they pray to God, rather than seeking medical attention.

I don't see Christian in this way, and was not taught it this way in the church. God, Jesus Christ, is about a loving relationship. Father and son. We are friends with Jesus, not slaves. We have come at our own will, not forced. To do the works of God, is a free will choice, not a, your going to get whipped type of thing. Christianity is what I call, Freedom.

The devil on the other hand, would have you to be religious. Turning your faith in God into slavery.
Yeah if a person loves sin , needing to act right seems like oppression . Of a person is a sinner and regrets and doesn’t want to keep sinning then sin is what seems oppressive and righteousness seems like freedom from it
 
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A large portion of the world view Christianity as some kind of dogma. Where you are bowing to the rising sun, and bowing to the setting sun. You are always having to hum and say, 'AMEN'. They see it as a type of slavery.

Along with the dogma they also see Christians who die, or have their children die because they pray to God, rather than seeking medical attention.

I don't see Christian in this way, and was not taught it this way in the church. God, Jesus Christ, is about a loving relationship. Father and son. We are friends with Jesus, not slaves. We have come at our own will, not forced. To do the works of God, is a free will choice, not a, your going to get whipped type of thing. Christianity is what I call, Freedom.

The devil on the other hand, would have you to be religious. Turning your faith in God into slavery.
Well I can't blame the world because we do a very poor job at separating the Old covenant from the new, what laws still apply, and the difference between good works versus works of legalism.

One very typical example is tithing. Some take the Old Covenant tithing and bash their congregation over the head constantly. Not only that, but they apply the 10% rule which oddly came before the Old covenant and wasn't a command of Abraham. The Old Covenant required more than 10% some scholars suggest it was 20%.

Some are dogmatic on the day of Sabbath or rather tongues follow a true conversion. Some are dogmatic on their interpretation of the elect.

Dogmatic- Asserting or insisting upon ideas or principles, especially when unproven or unexamined, in an imperious or arrogant manner.

We have many Christians who don't know how to defend their beliefs or even speak to unbelievers much less as seen on this site many can barely be civil and non-arrogant to other Christians.

Some point to personal experience to insist on the truth. Which carries some weight but to the unbelieving world, there is a reason Jesus didn't do miracles for everyone.

When we fail to apologetically defend our faith using logic, reason, history, archeology, philosophically, hermeneutically, scientifically, prophetically, etc. Then we leave out much of what God has given us to actually defend truth ot not just say it's true.
 

Brasspen

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Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.
The number 666 is an important number for computer hardware. I forget what this was about, but it has something to do with intel micro chips. I learned about it back when the intel 486 was new. And, we know that intel made the first programmable neuron. Which is being used in the equator to study algae.

Maybe 666 has something to do with the human brain?
 

Brasspen

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So more I wanted to say. 'Brother will betray brother, Sister will betray sister." "Your neighbors will betray you." What it sounds like to me, is when the call for all christians to be condemned is made, your family, and the people who know you, will report you. You will try and hide, but those who know where you are, will report you. Even your own family will report you. Just like it happened in the holocaust. Remember the holocaust was about killing the Jewish people. This new holocaust will be about killing anyone who is a Christian.

"Offences must come, but woe to them who it comes by." Their judgment will be just. They know in their heart that the Christian is about doing good, and not evil. They know they are about saving lives and feeding the hungry. And then they attacked them, even killing them. They know the Christian has done no evil, but they judge and kill them. So those who the offence comes by, will have a just judgement.

"WHY?!?, what evil has he done?"