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No, I'm not saying that christian men are boring....that was not my point at all. Yes, I think some people take for granted their relationship with Christ, especially if that's all they have known all of their lives, but I'm not by any means saying this is ALWAYS the case since I have friends who were raised christian and they aren't boring (well maybe yes accoding to the world ). This is how I see it :
1.You can be a person raised in a christian family who has christian values, goes to church, has christian friends, don't smoke nor drink, and is considered a nice person. Nevertheless, your faith doesn't move you to give more of you to God, you are therefore in what I call ''the comfort zone'' (or not being led by the Spirit) and you don't even notice. Your life is about not gettin out of that comfort zone.
2.You can be a person who was not raised in a christian family BUT you have good values, help your friends, do well in school, has fun in a healthy way and is considered a good friend and a nice person. Nevertheless, you don't believe in God or you just don't care much about it. Your life is about being succesful and being happy with what you have.
3.You can also be a person who WAS NOT raised in a christian family, used to drink or smoke or both, went to parties, had the wrong friends, behaved the wrong way, and was considered ...not a nice guy or girl. Nevertheless, you are now a born-again christian who loves the Lord and having known what being lost is you don't want ANYTHING to do with your past life. Your life is about Christ now.
4.You can also be a person raised in a christian family who has christian values, goes to church, has christian friends, don't smoke or drink, and is considered a nice person. This person does so because he understands how blessed he is to have lived close to God all his life and he doesn't want to change that. This person wants to do more for God and his life is about Christ and his relationship with him.
Now this is MY opinion : for me from these 4 groups of people #1 and #2 are the same, and #3 and #4 are the same. I think that you always make a choice, wheter you were raised christian or not, In my previous post I was assuming that the new guy at church was actually a christian who bears fruit, not just someone who started to go to church. If a God-fearing woman chooses him over guy #1, I think it's totally great.
Maybe the reason why some of the new believers show so much passion is because of this:
“I tell you, her sins—and they are many—have been forgiven, so she has shown me much love. But a person who is forgiven little shows only little love.” Luke 7: 36.47 (Jesus anointed by a sinful woman)
Everyone can lose their ''luster'' if they don't mantain their relationship with Christ, so I agree with you on that.
1.You can be a person raised in a christian family who has christian values, goes to church, has christian friends, don't smoke nor drink, and is considered a nice person. Nevertheless, your faith doesn't move you to give more of you to God, you are therefore in what I call ''the comfort zone'' (or not being led by the Spirit) and you don't even notice. Your life is about not gettin out of that comfort zone.
2.You can be a person who was not raised in a christian family BUT you have good values, help your friends, do well in school, has fun in a healthy way and is considered a good friend and a nice person. Nevertheless, you don't believe in God or you just don't care much about it. Your life is about being succesful and being happy with what you have.
3.You can also be a person who WAS NOT raised in a christian family, used to drink or smoke or both, went to parties, had the wrong friends, behaved the wrong way, and was considered ...not a nice guy or girl. Nevertheless, you are now a born-again christian who loves the Lord and having known what being lost is you don't want ANYTHING to do with your past life. Your life is about Christ now.
4.You can also be a person raised in a christian family who has christian values, goes to church, has christian friends, don't smoke or drink, and is considered a nice person. This person does so because he understands how blessed he is to have lived close to God all his life and he doesn't want to change that. This person wants to do more for God and his life is about Christ and his relationship with him.
Now this is MY opinion : for me from these 4 groups of people #1 and #2 are the same, and #3 and #4 are the same. I think that you always make a choice, wheter you were raised christian or not, In my previous post I was assuming that the new guy at church was actually a christian who bears fruit, not just someone who started to go to church. If a God-fearing woman chooses him over guy #1, I think it's totally great.
Maybe the reason why some of the new believers show so much passion is because of this:
“I tell you, her sins—and they are many—have been forgiven, so she has shown me much love. But a person who is forgiven little shows only little love.” Luke 7: 36.47 (Jesus anointed by a sinful woman)
Everyone can lose their ''luster'' if they don't mantain their relationship with Christ, so I agree with you on that.
" Take Han Solo for instance, kind of a reformed 'bad guy.' All of the qualities that made him a scoundrel also serve to make him an excellent good guy. In essence he's pretty much the opposite of C-3PO who never does anything wrong but also never wants to get his hands dirty or go anywhere. "
Liamson: Excellent, my friend. Fun way to enforce the Luke 7 scripture Karla posted.
Sometimes I really don't want to post, just read. Loving this thread.