More People Died in the 1918 Flu Pandemic Than in WWI

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Roughsoul1991

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This thread isnt to down play the Covid 19 Pandemic but to provide a glimpse into how Pandemics was in the past. Lasting for years with millions of deaths. Places shut down with fines or even jail time. Hospitals overran and the need for volunteer nurses became essential. Wrapping bandages around their face for face masks. No time to even wash their white uniforms that in many pictures turned brownish looking. Perspective and history can often times make us thankful or grateful for what we have and how technology, our modern knowledge of viruses and hygiene can save many lives.

US 1917 to 1918 national population difference

Date.
July 1, 1918
National population
103,208,000
Population change
-60,000
Percent change
-0.06

Date:
July 1, 1917
National population
103,268,000
Population change
1,307,000
Percent change
1.27
https://www.census.gov/population/estimates/nation/popclockest.txt


Blue lips. Blackened skin. Blood leaking from noses and mouths. Coughing fits so intense they ripped muscles. Crippling headaches and body pains that felt like torture. These were the symptoms of a disease that was first recorded in Haskell County, Kansas, one hundred years ago this week, in January 1918. From Kansas the illness spread quickly: not only throughout the U.S. but across the world. Eventually (if misleadingly) it became known as Spanish flu. And while its effects on the body were awful, the mortality rate was truly terrifying.

During a pandemic that lasted two years from its outbreak in the U.S., between 50 million and 100 million people across the globe died. Spanish flu killed more people than any pandemic disease before or since, including the sixth-century Plague of Justinian, the medieval Black Death, the AIDS epidemic or Ebola.
The First World War, which was ending just as the flu took hold, killed barely a third as many people with bullets and bombs as the H1N1 strain of influenza did with coughs and shivers.

The virus had first appeared in Oakland in early October, and within a fortnight of its arrival thousands of people were sick. The city hospital was quickly overwhelmed, so the mayor ordered the recently opened civic auditorium (now the Kaiser Convention Center) to be converted into an overflow ward with 80 beds. All were quickly filled by seriously ill Oaklanders.

The nurses were volunteers working for the American Red Cross. The gauze across their mouths was a precious commodity, since literally every person in the city required it: citizens had been compelled by law to wear a face-mask in public, under pain of an $100 fine and 10 days in prison.

The aftermath

In Oakland, swift action by the city authorities to shut schools and churches and enforce public hygiene measures meant that the local flu epidemic was under control by February 1919. Nevertheless, 1,300 citizens had died, out of 675,000 American deaths in total: more than were killed during the entire Civil War. The pandemic, combined with mortality during the First World War, caused United States life expectancy to drop by 12 years.

Today flu can still be lethal, but a tragedy on the scale of 1918 has, mercifully, not been repeated.
 
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I’ve read in that time media was censored in some countries and reporting was allowed only in neutral Spain because of media censorship gave a false impression about the origin thus the name Spanish flu was coined.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_flu
 
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EleventhHour

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This thread isnt to down play the Covid 19 Pandemic but to provide a glimpse into how Pandemics was in the past. Lasting for years with millions of deaths. Places shut down with fines or even jail time. Hospitals overran and the need for volunteer nurses became essential. Wrapping bandages around their face for face masks. No time to even wash their white uniforms that in many pictures turned brownish looking. Perspective and history can often times make us thankful or grateful for what we have and how technology, our modern knowledge of viruses and hygiene can save many lives.

US 1917 to 1918 national population difference

Date.
July 1, 1918
National population
103,208,000
Population change
-60,000
Percent change
-0.06

Date:
July 1, 1917
National population
103,268,000
Population change
1,307,000
Percent change
1.27
https://www.census.gov/population/estimates/nation/popclockest.txt


Blue lips. Blackened skin. Blood leaking from noses and mouths. Coughing fits so intense they ripped muscles. Crippling headaches and body pains that felt like torture. These were the symptoms of a disease that was first recorded in Haskell County, Kansas, one hundred years ago this week, in January 1918. From Kansas the illness spread quickly: not only throughout the U.S. but across the world. Eventually (if misleadingly) it became known as Spanish flu. And while its effects on the body were awful, the mortality rate was truly terrifying.

During a pandemic that lasted two years from its outbreak in the U.S., between 50 million and 100 million people across the globe died. Spanish flu killed more people than any pandemic disease before or since, including the sixth-century Plague of Justinian, the medieval Black Death, the AIDS epidemic or Ebola.
The First World War, which was ending just as the flu took hold, killed barely a third as many people with bullets and bombs as the H1N1 strain of influenza did with coughs and shivers.

The virus had first appeared in Oakland in early October, and within a fortnight of its arrival thousands of people were sick. The city hospital was quickly overwhelmed, so the mayor ordered the recently opened civic auditorium (now the Kaiser Convention Center) to be converted into an overflow ward with 80 beds. All were quickly filled by seriously ill Oaklanders.

The nurses were volunteers working for the American Red Cross. The gauze across their mouths was a precious commodity, since literally every person in the city required it: citizens had been compelled by law to wear a face-mask in public, under pain of an $100 fine and 10 days in prison.

The aftermath

In Oakland, swift action by the city authorities to shut schools and churches and enforce public hygiene measures meant that the local flu epidemic was under control by February 1919. Nevertheless, 1,300 citizens had died, out of 675,000 American deaths in total: more than were killed during the entire Civil War. The pandemic, combined with mortality during the First World War, caused United States life expectancy to drop by 12 years.

Today flu can still be lethal, but a tragedy on the scale of 1918 has, mercifully, not been repeated.
Interesting, and then did try to do some mitigation for what they knew at the time, and still look at the numbers.
The Spanish Flu was very virulent and there were successive waves.
 

Prycejosh1987

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Jul 19, 2020
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There are so many pandemic's that we cannot tell when Jesus is coming back. If he came back in 1918 he would still be accurate, and the world's only getting worse.
 

Lanolin

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yep its started in Kansas, USA, epidemiologists had traced the origins back to there.
a lot of swine and poultry farms there. American troops then spread it to france, then all across europe and eventually worldwide.

Back then few people knew about viruses, and nobody had ever seen one as electron microscopes hadnt been invented.
The previous flu epidemic began in Russia about 28 years prior and those that it didnt kill, had antibodies, but their immune systems actually over reacted to the new strain and that was why so many in their 20s to 40s, the prime of life, died.
 

Lanolin

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Dec 15, 2018
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Western Samoa had the highest casualties per population, but american samoa came off relatively unscathed thanks to stricter quarantine. Australia also quarantined early, but nz didnt. we had about 9000 deaths for a population of about a million people.

again it came back via troops returning from the war.