my testimony on the occult- Part 3

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A craft that will influence (more than politics) every walk, every aspect of life.
Currently there are some 100 American Universities which offer courses in witchcraft. J.F. Kennedy University offers an accredited Masters Degree in Parapsychology (study of the occult) as well as a "psychic" training program. 300 Universities (75% State Approved) now offer courses directly involved in the New Age movement. The New Age movement is a religious, spiritual movement that is converting occult knowledge into spiritual, psychological & scientific terminology for the masses.

The new psychology that is being widely accepted is inundated with occult knowledge. Just a few years ago, as I mentioned earlier, I was pursing a degree in Alcohol & Drug Counseling. I wanted to help others. But while I was taking these counseling courses I immediately recognized the practices & terminology as coming from books I had read back when I was studying the occult. The practices of "Guided Imagery", "Creative Visualization", " Active Imagination", all sound real scientific - but these practices, until 10 years or so ago, could only be found in eastern religious books, or books of magic, or the occult book stores in Dallas (That was one of my favorite hangouts).

"Guided Imagery is a well known technique in the occult world that is used in meditation to contact spritual beings". Of course these practices were just a few. I have taken numerous courses in psychology & this knowledge is in all of them.

Modern psychology is full of occult knowledge. It was put there by the founder & Father of modern psychology; Carl Jung; you might want to research this man. He was a well known psychologist who openly practiced meditation, conducted seances & practiced a lot of the Black Arts. His occult writings & theories are being widely accepted today as normal hidden powers of the mind. Even though his acquired knowledge came from spirit guides. He even gives the name of his personal spirit guide that gave him this knowledge.
His biography, by Janet Dallet, revealed that he at times could not even distinguish what was real from what was not. (sounds familiar) Yet his writings are being accepted as revelation in the world of psychology.

It is evident way back in the early seventies when The American Psychology Association recommended turning most of the mental patients loose. After all they weren't as crazy as most people believed they were from the standpoint of the new revelations from psychology. Now we have widespread homelessness and psychotic crimes. Then in the late seventies the Association declared that homosexuality was not unnatural but just an alternative life-style, and so it is widely accepted today by them.
I was told in my counseling classes that I could not counsel to the homosexual people that their life-style was wrong. In so doing I would loose my state license.

So Carl Jung, the founder of modern psychology, has taken occult knowledge & psychologized it. He has taken occult terminology and made it acceptable & practicable as normal activities.
It is hard for many to recognize most of the other occult knowledge because they've never seen or practiced it before.

Before I left my pursuit in psychology counseling they had almost convinced me, through their "philosophy" that the bible was inadequate by itself to counsel people with emotional problems. That this type of counseling should be left to the experts, who were the psychologist. They teach that there is wisdom outside of scripture & a personal relationship with Jesus Christ that can better deal with emotional problems. That the sufficiency of Christ is no longer enough.

Sure Jesus is OK but you need something more practical, more down to earth (psychology). That's sort of what the Galatians were being bewitched with. Jesus plus something else. In there case the law. The bewitching of the Americans is the new emphasis on self-help groups; psychotherapy counseling; therapy of all kinds; a shifting away from the cross, away from self-denial, away from repentance & forgiveness of sins. The bible is to them foolishness. But Paul says in Corinthians that God has chosen the foolishness of preaching:

1Cor. 1:21 For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.
And remember what Paul said to the Galatians; "having begun in the spirit, are we now made perfect by the flesh.

In my classes.....sin was called a sickness & required therapy - not repentance- I was almost booed out of class for saying the sin word. When I talked about how I was freed from these sins by confessing them, all I got was head shaking & snickering.

We were even told by a visiting speaker who was a licensed counselor that "those who think that alcohol & drug abuse are sins instead of a sickness, should "get out", of this field. So I did.
The knowledge that was being taught in these classes was so filled with occult philosophies that it is almost unbelievable. Don't get me wrong. There was a spiritual atmosphere in these classes but it was more of a New Age atmosphere. Sin was irrelevant. In fact it even redefined sin.
I say again, the Anti-Christ is causing his craft to prosper.

The one area that really bothers me more than this psychologizing of the occult is the integration of psychology with the bible. Some preachers (Robert Schuller, I heard with mine own ears) are blending the word of God with the bible. Thus they claim " a more powerful tool". In effect the occult is being preached from the pulpit. If you blend modern psychology with the bible, you are preaching occult knowledge. You might say to them, O foolish Californians, who has bewitched you that you should believe all that philosophy?

Witchcraft is also popping up in many churches today. I realize this is hard to believe. This is also something I have tried to dismiss. But the lord wouldn't let me. Over five years I've come to see this first hand - as the movement is growing stronger every day. But when you stand behind the pulpit & tell people all they have to do is visualize in their mind they can have anything or anyone they want, & believe it hard enough, or just speak the words from your mouth believing real hard, then you will somehow engage divine laws or a divine force, that will heal, produce wealth, or bring success; "this is witchcraft"............
It is not "thy will be done Lord", but my will imposed on God & and everyone else - and it's spreading like wildfire. That's what my days of witchcraft were all about; trying to impose my will to direct spiritual forces to do my bidding. To cause to bring about my desires, my will. If I wanted something of someone I would visualize this taking place in my mind while chanting spells & burning herbs & incense.

Alister Crowley..... "ugh", I even hate to mention his name; the King of the Occultist, the King of Witches, in his book Magick, read by millions, he gave a new commandment to all; "Do what thou will shall be the whole of the law". I can see this law in every philosophy & occult book I've ever read. Even back in the 60's his law was in effect, it was "doing your own thing".
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Witchcraft is an abomination before the Lord. The anti-Christ is causing his craft to prosper. There is a darkness covering this land. The night is coming and soon no man will be able to work. Remember Jesus asked, "Will he find any faith upon his return?"

I know I'm not popular for saying this but, America is not coming back. Jesus is coming back. The earth and everything in it is going to melt with a fervent heat, according to the gospel of Peter, and the book of Revelations.
We Christians should look for a new heaven, a new earth; filled with God's knowledge, not occult knowledge. Our hope is not in this world, but in Jesus & his return.
Let's not be like Peter. Everyone loves Peter & identifies with him in some way. But how tragic it can be when we like Peter do not heed the warnings of the bible. Jesus told Peter the shepherd would be struck down and the sheep would be scattered. Jesus said IT IS WRITTEN. Jesus was quoting the Hebrew bible- the old testament. Peter failed to believe what the scriptures said. Peter said, "Not so Lord." You know the rest of the story............

We should take seriously the warnings that God has given to us in the bible.
If he forbids us not to fellowship with evil, then we should take him seriously.
We should not play games when the devil plays for keeps.
If you know someone involved in witchcraft or occult activities,do not get involved with them but pray & pray hard for them. God listens to you mothers & grandmothers, fathers & grandfathers, friends & neighbors.

The most powerful force against the occult is the gospel of Jesus Christ.
For it is the power of God unto salvation.
What attracted me to Jesus was not his power & glory,which he rightly deserves, but his meekness, his sacrifice, his longsuffering, his love for a wretched individual like me.
The book of John says, Jesus came to destroy the works of darkness.... the gospel freed me from my bondage in the occult....not psychology.
What I want to emphasize over all this evil I've talked about is. Jesus Christ. No matter who you are or what darkness you've walked in, Jesus can make you a new person. He can give you a new heart & make you a new creation. As he created Adam from the dust, he can recreate you- as he did me, into a completely new born again creature. I am a living testimony to God's grace. not perfect far from it - just ask my wife- but just forgiven.


I love this scripture: this is my life's verse:
2Cor. 5:17 Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.
He is an awesome God we serve.
I am so thankful to Jesus for saving me. I probably would by dead now if it weren't for him.
O for a thousand tongues to sing.
Jesus doesn't really get the praise he deserves now, but one day soon, there's going to be a great coronation & the Lord of Life, the Giver of Life, the one who restored my life and yours will receive the praise for what he has done.

Praise God & thank you for letting me give my testimony of Jesus Christ. There's another scripture I want to close with; I love this scripture too:

Matt. 12:18 Behold my servant, whom I have chosen; my beloved, in whom my soul is well pleased: I will put my spirit upon him, and he shall show judgment to the Gentiles. Matt. 12:19 He shall not strive, nor cry; neither shall any man hear his voice in the streets. Matt. 12:20 A bruised reed shall he not break, and smoking flax shall he not quench, till he send forth judgment unto victory.

Matt. 12:21 And in his name shall the Gentiles trust.

He is able to do all things.
He is faithful & true & just.
 
Hello Laser
I read all 3 parts of your testimony. What a life you had!!
Thanks for sharing your testimony & explaining about the dangers of occult.

It's wonderful that we have such a merciful & loving God who can save anyone from anything.
From your experience you can now be a living testimony to others who are in the same boat as you were.

Your written testimony can also be a witness to non believers who visit this website & may God speak to their hearts
if they are in the occult.

God bless
 
Hey there Laser,
I just want to thank you for sharing your testimony; I learned so much and I am so grateful to God. I do want to ask if it is wrong for me to take psychology classes since you described they are riddled with the occult? I don't want to get myself into anything I'll regret later. Hope you can help me. God bless you!
 
I know the psychology courses in my local college are not core curriculum. They are added on so the colleges can make more money through tuition and are required for even an associates degree. Personally, I would say put on the armor of God to withstand the wiles of the devil and let the mind of Christ be in you. You will probably notice a lot of teachings that go against the bible, just dont let them "set" in your beliefs, or blend in with Christ's teachings. Hard to do, I know. But with Christ, all things are possible and we are living under grace. As Jesus said, give to Caesar what is Caesars and give to God what is Gods. Its sort of like having to pay taxes even though they are used for ungodly activities in this society. Jesus paid taxes to Romans even though they were an evil empire. All commandments hang on LOVE. I hope this helps.
 
Redeemedbride4christ: Also here is a link to a small booklet called..... The Facts on Self-Esteem, Psychology, and the Recovery Movement by John Ankerberg:
It gives a lot of details about what is taught. Its good to be well armed with the truth. It only costs around $4. Its a small handbook, but its filled with valuable information: The Facts on Self-Esteem, Psychology, and the Recovery Movement - eBook Download I guess I cant post a link, because it want show up; so goggle John Ankerberg and look for the booklet on his website. Its in a series of booklets called the "Facts on" series. Hope this helps.
 
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A craft that will influence (more than politics) every walk, every aspect of life.
Currently there are some 100 American Universities which offer courses in witchcraft. J.F. Kennedy University offers an accredited Masters Degree in Parapsychology (study of the occult) as well as a "psychic" training program. 300 Universities (75% State Approved) now offer courses directly involved in the New Age movement. The New Age movement is a religious, spiritual movement that is converting occult knowledge into spiritual, psychological & scientific terminology for the masses.

The new psychology that is being widely accepted is inundated with occult knowledge. Just a few years ago, as I mentioned earlier, I was pursing a degree in Alcohol & Drug Counseling. I wanted to help others. But while I was taking these counseling courses I immediately recognized the practices & terminology as coming from books I had read back when I was studying the occult. The practices of "Guided Imagery", "Creative Visualization", " Active Imagination", all sound real scientific - but these practices, until 10 years or so ago, could only be found in eastern religious books, or books of magic, or the occult book stores in Dallas (That was one of my favorite hangouts).

"Guided Imagery is a well known technique in the occult world that is used in meditation to contact spritual beings". Of course these practices were just a few. I have taken numerous courses in psychology & this knowledge is in all of t
Modern psychology is full of occult knowledge. It was put there by the founder & Father of modern psychology; Carl Jung; you might want to research this man. He was a well known psychologist who openly practiced meditation, conducted seances & practiced a lot of the Black Arts. His occult writings & theories are being widely accepted today as normal hidden powers of the mind. Even though his acquired knowledge came from spirit guides. He even gives the name of his personal spirit guide that gave him this knowledge.
His biography, by Janet Dallet, revealed that he at times could not even distinguish what was real from what was not. (sounds familiar) Yet his writings are being accepted as revelation in the world of psychology.

It is evident way back in the early seventies when The American Psychology Association recommended turning most of the mental patients loose. After all they weren't as crazy as most people believed they were from the standpoint of the new revelations from psychology. Now we have widespread homelessness and psychotic crimes. Then in the late seventies the Association declared that homosexuality was not unnatural but just an alternative life-style, and so it is widely accepted today by them.
I was told in my counseling classes that I could not counsel to the homosexual people that their life-style was wrong. In so doing I would loose my state license.

So Carl Jung, the founder of modern psychology, has taken occult knowledge & psychologized it. He has taken occult terminology and made it acceptable & practicable as normal activities.
It is hard for many to recognize most of the other occult knowledge because they've never seen or practiced it before.

Before I left my pursuit in psychology counseling they had almost convinced me, through their "philosophy" that the bible was inadequate by itself to counsel people with emotional problems. That this type of counseling should be left to the experts, who were the psychologist. They teach that there is wisdom outside of scripture & a personal relationship with Jesus Christ that can better deal with emotional problems. That the sufficiency of Christ is no longer enough.

Sure Jesus is OK but you need something more practical, more down to earth (psychology). That's sort of what the Galatians were being bewitched with. Jesus plus something else. In there case the law. The bewitching of the Americans is the new emphasis on self-help groups; psychotherapy counseling; therapy of all kinds; a shifting away from the cross, away from self-denial, away from repentance & forgiveness of sins. The bible is to them foolishness. But Paul says in Corinthians that God has chosen the foolishness of preaching:

1Cor. 1:21 For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.
And remember what Paul said to the Galatians; "having begun in the spirit, are we now made perfect by the flesh.

In my classes.....sin was called a sickness & required therapy - not repentance- I was almost booed out of class for saying the sin word. When I talked about how I was freed from these sins by confessing them, all I got was head shaking & snickering.

We were even told by a visiting speaker who was a licensed counselor that "those who think that alcohol & drug abuse are sins instead of a sickness, should "get out", of this field. So I did.
The knowledge that was being taught in these classes was so filled with occult philosophies that it is almost unbelievable. Don't get me wrong. There was a spiritual atmosphere in these classes but it was more of a New Age atmosphere. Sin was irrelevant. In fact it even redefined sin.
I say again, the Anti-Christ is causing his craft to prosper.

The one area that really bothers me more than this psychologizing of the occult is the integration of psychology with the bible. Some preachers (Robert Schuller, I heard with mine own ears) are blending the word of God with the bible. Thus they claim " a more powerful tool". In effect the occult is being preached from the pulpit. If you blend modern psychology with the bible, you are preaching occult knowledge. You might say to them, O foolish Californians, who has bewitched you that you should believe all that philosophy?

Witchcraft is also popping up in many churches today. I realize this is hard to believe. This is also something I have tried to dismiss. But the lord wouldn't let me. Over five years I've come to see this first hand - as the movement is growing stronger every day. But when you stand behind the pulpit & tell people all they have to do is visualize in their mind they can have anything or anyone they want, & believe it hard enough, or just speak the words from your mouth believing real hard, then you will somehow engage divine laws or a divine force, that will heal, produce wealth, or bring success; "this is witchcraft"............
It is not "thy will be done Lord", but my will imposed on God & and everyone else - and it's spreading like wildfire. That's what my days of witchcraft were all about; trying to impose my will to direct spiritual forces to do my bidding. To cause to bring about my desires, my will. If I wanted something of someone I would visualize this taking place in my mind while chanting spells & burning herbs & incense.

Alister Crowley..... "ugh", I even hate to mention his name; the King of the Occultist, the King of Witches, in his book Magick, read by millions, he gave a new commandment to all; "Do what thou will shall be the whole of the law". I can see this law in every philosophy & occult book I've ever read. Even back in the 60's his law was in effect, it was "doing your own thing".
*
Witchcraft is an abomination before the Lord. The anti-Christ is causing his craft to prosper. There is a darkness covering this land. The night is coming and soon no man will be able to work. Remember Jesus asked, "Will he find any faith upon his return?"

I know I'm not popular for saying this but, America is not coming back. Jesus is coming back. The earth and everything in it is going to melt with a fervent heat, according to the gospel of Peter, and the book of Revelations.
We Christians should look for a new heaven, a new earth; filled with God's knowledge, not occult knowledge. Our hope is not in this world, but in Jesus & his return.
Let's not be like Peter. Everyone loves Peter & identifies with him in some way. But how tragic it can be when we like Peter do not heed the warnings of the bible. Jesus told Peter the shepherd would be struck down and the sheep would be scattered. Jesus said IT IS WRITTEN. Jesus was quoting the Hebrew bible- the old testament. Peter failed to believe what the scriptures said. Peter said, "Not so Lord." You know the rest of the story............

We should take seriously the warnings that God has given to us in the bible.
If he forbids us not to fellowship with evil, then we should take him seriously.
We should not play games when the devil plays for keeps.
If you know someone involved in witchcraft or occult activities,do not get involved with them but pray & pray hard for them. God listens to you mothers & grandmothers, fathers & grandfathers, friends & neighbors.

The most powerful force against the occult is the gospel of Jesus Christ.
For it is the power of God unto salvation.
What attracted me to Jesus was not his power & glory,which he rightly deserves, but his meekness, his sacrifice, his longsuffering, his love for a wretched individual like me.
The book of John says, Jesus came to destroy the works of darkness.... the gospel freed me from my bondage in the occult....not psychology.
What I want to emphasize over all this evil I've talked about is. Jesus Christ. No matter who you are or what darkness you've walked in, Jesus can make you a new person. He can give you a new heart & make you a new creation. As he created Adam from the dust, he can recreate you- as he did me, into a completely new born again creature. I am a living testimony to God's grace. not perfect far from it - just ask my wife- but just forgiven.


I love this scripture: this is my life's verse:
2Cor. 5:17 Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.
He is an awesome God we serve.
I am so thankful to Jesus for saving me. I probably would by dead now if it weren't for him.
O for a thousand tongues to sing.
Jesus doesn't really get the praise he deserves now, but one day soon, there's going to be a great coronation & the Lord of Life, the Giver of Life, the one who restored my life and yours will receive the praise for what he has done.

Praise God & thank you for letting me give my testimony of Jesus Christ. There's another scripture I want to close with; I love this scripture too:

Matt. 12:18 Behold my servant, whom I have chosen; my beloved, in whom my soul is well pleased: I will put my spirit upon him, and he shall show judgment to the Gentiles. Matt. 12:19 He shall not strive, nor cry; neither shall any man hear his voice in the streets. Matt. 12:20 A bruised reed shall he not break, and smoking flax shall he not quench, till he send forth judgment unto victory.

Matt. 12:21 And in his name shall the Gentiles trust.

He is able to do all things.
He is faithful & true & just.
AWESOME! and AMEN brother! i too have been delivered from certain death. Praise to the CHRIST of our lives....Gods speed to you, my fellow follower.
 
If I may.This subject is very touchy!The young wish many times to fool around with the supernatural,they think it is fun,and hold this as harmless.Religion is defined by some as,a believe in someone or something more powerful then self. A higher power of some sort is the idea behind the term religion. As there are many different kinds and forms of religion in our World, we also know of only one Church.

This is also true of the Occult,there are many forms of it,but there is only one true church of it! It took over two years of very hard work,many tests,many dangers i had to overcome, to be a true part of this church.The true Church of the occult does not lie in the open,it does not have any banner looking to draw others to it. Like many of our churches today.There is no welcome mat out,no one will greet you at the door.Jesus is not even a name spoken out loud.

But when those who lead this church believe you are ready,you are brought before a court. Much the same as any courtroom of ours today. A trail is held,your name is Judas in this.Judas is not a bad word to these people,he is metioned in scripture in luke 22:3 To these people Judas represents the freedom from religion as a whole.One called to a higher purpose, and power.Satan entered him, not for the purpose of hurting him,but rather to set him free from his own self.

We know the truth of this,but they do not deal with truth as we know it.The Coven was started in 1966 by a circus trainer by the name of Anton Levey. Now deceased of course. Back then they were more in the open,there was less threat to them back then.Today is much different!The deadly bondage that becomes ones home in this, can boggle ones own mind. It is so much,that words cannot describe the penalty of being placed under it.Because young may see this,I will not go into all that is done, and required,I believe you can get the picture in your own head if you wish to.

There are no places such as heaven and hell to these people,there are rather realms of places one goes to,and the time one can spend in each of the six realms depends on his or her authority in that realm.Authority is given by the court for you to even have permission to venture into any one realm.

Because in order for you to even get into the realm a Spirit must guide you in it. A bad Spirit of course,but to these people they are not called Spirits, but rather a guide through the realm.A guide because that spirit must also guide you out of it as well! And here is where the problem can lie for one who enters.

You may not get out as soon as you wished to! You may have to stay in that realm far longer then you wished to. For every sin, there is a consequence to it. But they do not call this sin, but rather,a change in ones humanity. What it really is, is a taking over by the guide, to enter our bodies making us one with the guide.Then the person can leave.They do not say this when you first enter of course!!

I went through four of the six.The common person looking at me from there prespective would of said I was insane. But sanity is not a state of body but rather of mind.It is not state of where we are,but rather where we are going.In is a state where one can always travel to, at any given time,because we have guide to help us in this.

We are taught rituals to bring forth other guides( demons) To rest upon those who have hurt us, or threaten us in any way,we believe.Freedom of both mind and body they would say.On each birthday you have which is the HIGHEST DAY of the year to them. Another guide, is the present.The horrors one can dream about,cannot be measured even close to what happens to any man or woman who fools around in the occult!

Hell is not a place,but rather only a state of mind,as is heaven. Our heaven is measured by what we ourselves make heaven to be for us.That is there belief. Hell to them,is when a believer comes around in Jesus, to torture our freedom.To them Jesus is the bondage to our flesh,he looks to always put limits upon us,and laws guarding this!

If a believer were to say that grace is now the only rule under there new Covenant,they would say, that is taking freedom away from man.Man is the highest form created,since man is, then man rules, not others. And if the believer says then who created man??They would say man has been here from the beginning of time! Man is the beginning and the end ,Man is the only god among other gods.

If a believer were to further question you,you might tell that person to do something. A word,or a few words I cannot say here.When Jesus found me in a mop closet in College, i looked like i not only came from hell,but was still in it!And brothers and sister I was! Some speak, about the occult as if they know what it both is and means.FEW DO!!Because few ever take it to the ultimate finish!

When Jesus HIMSELF Delivered me from it!! I was in a realm i had never been to before in my life!Paul called it the 3rd heaven ( 2 cor 12:2-4!!!) In this realm is both heaven, the gates to it,as I never entered in it,and outer darkness on the other side.Picture yourself in the middle of both of them.This is where I was taken.In the Spirit, or body i am not sure?I was out of my body at the time,this I do know.

Brothers were speaking the Word against the spirits( guides i had in me) but I was not in that body. i was above it,i could see both realms at the same time,and this was never possible before.But I was not in charge of this Realm either!! From the side of outer darkness came a very strong odor a foul smelling one at that! There was a great smoke around the form which drew near to me,I knew it was not a guide,but rather a great leader among the guides.

I cannot, nor will speak its name,but the name in hebrew can be found in (rev 9:11) found also in the greek. As this form drew closer to me,a great fear came upon me! I could not cry out,i could not speak.From the gates of heaven I heard a large sound moving,the gate was swinging wide open,I looked towards this gate,and sweeping through was a white light,very bright,so bright i had to turn my head away from it!

From the side as this light,he moved by me towards the form that was now still.The smell left,now the smell was of victory!!What does victory smell like you may ask? Olives trees, and roses at the same time,in the palm of the hand was rich blood,blood so thick, one could have cut it with a knife! from the side, I could see only for a few seconds who this light was,a robe of pure white,a crown with many thorns was on his head,it was Jesus, the living Christ!

His eyes were red like fire as he waved his hand over the form,I was set free!!! Jesus smiled, and was gone.I now was back in a very painful body! Blood was on me,two of the 3 window of the dorm room had exploded! It was 2am,and many people were coming to my dorm room to see what was going on!! The pastor who my roommate got to help him in his prayers was physically drained, as were the other two brothers in Christ Jesus!

The first words out of my mouth was Jesus is Lord!( 1 cor 12:3!!)I was filled with Holy Spirit,no more guides except one!!( 1 John 2:27!!) Much of course happened after this brothers and sisters,but if I wrote all of this down, you would be reading for quite some time!!This was at 22 my first encounter with Jesus Christ! yes i had heard of him before,but i also heard of Santa Claus,the easter bunny, the tooth fairy to!

And since i was lied to so much as a kid,why would i expect to hear the truth now?? I didn't!! Jesus was to me like all the rest! We did not hug in my house! Kiss others good night???Are you kidding me?? We were not even allowed to cry when being disciplined! love was never a word spoken!NEVER!! EVER! My early dad was an ex marine,you know who ruled in my house!! LOL My mom was nothing more then a slave!And she knew it to!! And was grateful!!! i know!!! a woman who would be grateful for that???Unheard of!!But that was my mom Edith bunker!! LOL But she was very smart to!!

She could get the old man to do something, without him even knowing it was her getting him to do it!! LOL Brother Lasker I fully understand what you were saying!! Luke 10:19 was my first scripture!! because when the coven found out what had happened to me,i was visited!! More then once, but after a week, with this scripture,all was silent! There is NO ONE LIKE JESUS!!! There is no better friend,and no one I can ever be more thankful for!! And I STAY THANKFUL TO!! EVERY!!!! single Day!! I felt led to say this,i hope brother Lasker you did not mind. It is just I know how thankful you are!! I just wanted to write a big DITTO to yours is all! 2Cor 5:17 really means something to me!! I am HIS NOW!! FOREVER!!!! AMEN!!!! Blessing to you all!
 
Psychology itself is neither good nor bad. It is the science of the human mind. The human mind can choose to serve God, can choose to serve Satan, or can choose to try to sit on the fence for quite a while. Rom 12:2 "be transformed by the renewing of your mind". The purpose of psychology is to help you understand what needs to be transformed. If you are in a psychology class where an instructor is pushing the occult, he needs to be fired; go to the department head. Rest assured, if a professor were pushing Christianity, some pagan would do the same.

The testimonies here match my experience. People who get into the occult hardly ever do it through a psychology class. They do it through a person they meet, or through a desire for power. And that desire usually shows up in middle school or high school.

The powers that Satan exploits are God given, because the potential is part of you, or Satan would have nothing to exploit. I have felt for many years that if churches would only recognize and teach on I Cor. 12-14, and encourage the use of the gifts, we would save many from a journey into the occult.
 
You just have to consider the sources of education. its a sign of the times. Every class I ever took REQUIRED, yes, MANDATED that I take psychology, or modern psychology.

Who and what do they teach from? Freud,*Jung,*Rogers,*and*Ellis...... *all are*repeated*almost*endlessly. And all are anti-christian. Their bios speak for themselves.

Jung was an occultist. Jung participated & supported parapsychology. He also used astrology, attended seances, and was a passionate advocate of Eastern religious beliefs.

Many of his theories applied in today's psychotherapy,"skillfully" mask the reality of demons and reinterpret their spirit activity as psychological phenomena. (powers of the unconscious.) Much of his (insight) into psychology was derived from his "inner guides."

Consider: Janet Dallet was a Ph.d who was a former director of training at the Carl Jung Institute of Los Angeles; she quoted Jung (from his autobiography) while he was developing his "Active Imagination theories":
"............... it was most essential for me to have a normal life in the real world as a counterpoise to that strange inner world. My family and my profession remained the base to which I could always return, assuring me that I was an 'actually existing', ordinary person."

And they claim this man as founder and father of modern psychotherapy.

And we wonder whats wrong with our children????
 
Thanks for having the courage to share on such a contraversial subject. Let it be known that you have blessed someone with your testimony, as many are drawn to the black arts, especially the youth. I'd like to share a story with you. I met a young man in his early 20s. He was a patient in the hospital where I work. As I entered his room the first thing that struck me was his looks. He looked like he could be on the cover of a magazine. Which was unusual. As I approached him I noticed four deep, straight cuts on his upper arm. I asked him why he was there. He said that he had been to a cutting party! They let other people cut them to experiance some desired feeling. He had voluntarily let others cut him several times. Meanwhile his girlfriend got into a verbal confrontation with some guy. While defending her the guy stabbed him, but he didn't realize it because he was already bleeding from earlier cuts. He lost too much blood, passed out and almost died. I witnessed to him about Jesus, but he was not interested. So brothers, please continue to war against the occult . And continue to share you testimony. LoveAlways
 
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I received my degree from a school that was "Jungian". I was saved shortly after this. Of course I would never have chosen the school or degree now, and the Lord has changed my mission but I laugh at the philosophical, stuff now, because the Lord is sooo much cooler!. Now my mission is different and the Lord has blessed me with the ability to minister to a few of these counselors that still believe this garbage. The funny thing - I never bought it back then. I was like, who are these fruitcakes? This stuff is garbage. There's a scripture that the Lord led me to after I separated myself from this type of psychology.

"Always learning, never coming to the full knowledge of the truth" 2 Timothy 3:7

But the Lord has a way of using ALL of those things, and turning them around for the good. Now I know what people are doing and saying. I can speak against it! IT is just a warm up for my ministry now. WOW!!! Thanks for your post!
 
We all are in Our Lord Jesus Christ Now,PRAISE TOO YOU LORD JESUS CHRIST AMEN"!!!!!!!!!!!!!....