Obeying parents?

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selenah

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The Bible seems pretty clear that we should obey our parents, but how far do we have to go with that. I keep wondering, do we have to obey our parents our whole lives? What about situations where a parent seems wrong, but then you're still not sure if they are wrong even after years of praying and thinking about it?
 
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approaching_armageddon

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Good question. I think it is great that you're seeking out godly advice on this important issue. Three cheers for you!

That said, it depends on what you mean by your parents being "wrong." If Sally's parents are requiring her to join a squad of mafia assassins, then she should disobey them. If Sally's parents are mistakenly claiming that Sally will be corrupted by hanging out with Suzy, then Sally should obey them and not hang out with Suzy. What's the difference? Sally won't sin by not hanging out with Suzy--she can find other friends; but Sally will sin if she becomes a mafia assassin. ;)

Now, what if Sally isn't sure about whether her parents are requiring her to do something sinful. For example, what if Sally's parents require Sally to attend First Beulah Baptist Bible Church, and Sally is unsure of whether or not it is a sin to go to this church. What should Sally do then? Well, this is tricky. Let's pretend this church is so awful that it is a sin even for a child to attend it. If Sally leaves the church when she is unsure of whether it is a sin to attend it, then this means that Sally is willing to disobey her parents when she's not sure that it is acceptable to disobey her parents. That's bad. That's really bad. So it seems that she should continue to attend the church. But if Sally continues to attend the church, she will be continuing to sin. That's really bad, too. So what should she do? She should study Scripture very prayerfully and carefully so that she knows whether it it is right or wrong to attend First Beulah Baptist Bible Church. And she should start studying this right away so that she can live with a clear conscience again.

The solution to your problem, then, is to prayerfully study whether your parents are requiring you to sin. Once you know what's the truth, you'll be able to act on it with a clear conscience.

Cheers,
Dan
 
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Laodicea

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The Bible seems pretty clear that we should obey our parents, but how far do we have to go with that. I keep wondering, do we have to obey our parents our whole lives? What about situations where a parent seems wrong, but then you're still not sure if they are wrong even after years of praying and thinking about it?
Isaac was 40 and he let his father choose a wife for him, although the Bible says this
Ephesians 6:1
(1) Children, obey your parents in the Lord: for this is right.

 
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selenah

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Yeah..it's alot more confusing and complicated than those situations lol. What if a parent's a Christian and does some things that aren't Christian but other things that are? Do you completely discredit them?


What if you disagree with a parent's interpretation of the Bible, but then the issue you disagree with them on is of little importance? Should you disobey them because you think your interpretation of the Bible is right or should you obey them just because the issue is unimportant?


What if a parent tells you to do things that you really think are wrong but you're not sure and you know that by doing it you will help them?


Should we simply live under them even if it's painful, obey them, and pray that they would make the right decisions or should a person just leave?



Anyways that was confusing. I read the Bible, and it seems like there are so many issues that could go either way.
 
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wwjd_kilden

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well, many seem to "forget" the second half of this....

Children, obey your parents in the Lord, for this is right.
Honor your father and mother”—which is the first commandment with a promise
that it may go well with you and that you may enjoy long life on the earth.”


Fathers, do not exasperate your children; instead, bring them up in the training and instruction of the Lord.
 
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Proverbs 30:11/14

There is a generation that curseth their father, and does not bless their mother.

There is a generation that are pure in their own eyes, and yet is not washed from their filthiness.

There is a generation, O how lofty are their eyes! and their eye-lids are lifted up.(space crap; hi Jimmy ;))

There is a generation, whose teeth are as swords, and their jaw teeth as knives, to devour the poor from off the earth, and the needy from among men.

Don't worry Selenah; you don't have to grow up and be somebody important, you already are; now more than ever, it is so important to not think ourselves to be better than anyone else, it IS the time of, and whom so-ever will, and everybodys important.

Forever in Christ :)
 
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MaggieMye

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Isaac was 40 and he let his father choose a wife for him, although the Bible says this
Ephesians 6:1
(1) Children, obey your parents in the Lord: for this is right.


First of all you guys are failing to see that the "obey" part is spoken to CHILDREN. All offspring, including the young and the older, as in grown adults, are to HONOR their parents. This does not mean that grown men and women must OBEY their parents. You can do your own thing, do the Lord's thing, or whatever, but if you do go against a parent's wishes because of whatever reasons, it is to be done RESPECTFULLY. Scripture tells us that children have no more rights than servants as far as inheritance, but SONS and DAUGHTERS have the right of inheritance. Likewise, Children are to obey their parents AS UNTO THE LORD, but grown offspring are not children and so have the right to make choices as any other adult.
Maggie
 

tribesman

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First off parents should obey God.
 
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selenah

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Isaac was 40 and he let his father choose a wife for him, although the Bible says this
Ephesians 6:1
(1) Children, obey your parents in the Lord: for this is right.


First of all you guys are failing to see that the "obey" part is spoken to CHILDREN. All offspring, including the young and the older, as in grown adults, are to HONOR their parents. This does not mean that grown men and women must OBEY their parents. You can do your own thing, do the Lord's thing, or whatever, but if you do go against a parent's wishes because of whatever reasons, it is to be done RESPECTFULLY. Scripture tells us that children have no more rights than servants as far as inheritance, but SONS and DAUGHTERS have the right of inheritance. Likewise, Children are to obey their parents AS UNTO THE LORD, but grown offspring are not children and so have the right to make choices as any other adult.
Maggie
How does someone honor their parents? It's difficult to respect a parent who punishes you for swearing but then the next day they start cussing at you. One day they say they love you and buy you a camera, and the next day they tell you to get off their back and won't talk to you. Why does my mom spend more time reading books by men like Texe Marrs than she does reading the Bible. I don't understand my mom's form of Christianity. It's like this weird isolated type of Christianity. I don't know my mom will be nice and I think I'm just exaggerating all the bad stuff about her but then she does something else that doesn't make sense.
 
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We do have to obey our parents,which to God is very important,and with good reason.

1Children, obey your parents in the Lord: for this is right. 2Honour thy father and mother; which is the first commandment with promise(Ephesians 6:1-2).


God said to honor your parents,which is the first commandment with promise,which means the first commandment that will cause a person to stand a chance that they will be right with God.This commandment will cause a person to likely humble themselves before God and stand a chance to be saved,more than any other commandment,which shows you how important it is to God for children to take heed to this commandment.


The reason is this.Children grow up with parents,and that is when they learn to humble themselves before authority.If a child grows up honoring their parents,respecting their authority,they will have no problem humbling themselves before God,for they learned to obey authority,and have no problem with it.They learn not to exalt themselves and think higher than what they really are.


If children do not honor their parents,not caring too much about their authority,but throw conflict against them somewhat,not humbling themselves like they should,but throw their own input in to the mix trying to have their way,they are less likely to want to humble themselves before God,because instead of learning to humble themselves before authority through their childhood years,they want to exalt themselves against authority,and have their own way against authority.


The 1960's was a major disaster in the way they acted,when their attitude was have your own way,be your own boss,do your own thing,and general rebellion against authority of all kinds.


And from that time on people went crazy,with selfishness,and arrogance,and greediness,unheard of before,which the age of the youth in their disobedience towards parents fell to lower and lower ages,to where the disobedience is not only to the teens,or 16 and 17 years old,like the 1960's,but fell to the 5 years old children pushing their way,for that is what they learned and the younger children started being disobedient and it crept to lower and lower ages as time went on.


Children are not humbling themselves before parents the way they should,but go against them,a lot of times with no or little resistance of the parents,as if the parents kind of accept it,for it has been going on for some time,which where will that leave the world in the future.


11There is a generation that curseth their father, and doth not bless their mother.
12There is a generation that are pure in their own eyes, and yet is not washed from their filthiness.
13There is a generation, O how lofty are their eyes! and their eyelids are lifted up.
14There is a generation, whose teeth are as swords, and their jaw teeth as knives, to devour the poor from off the earth, and the needy from among men(Proverbs 30:11-14).


It will lead them to the beast system,for the beast system happens because the attitude of the people,that they do not want to humble themselves before authority,but want their own way.


No where in the history of mankind did children rebel against parents,but what happened in the 1960's,although you can see the 1950's had a hand in it.


God is telling us the last generation on earth before He takes over the world,that they will not obey parents,will say they are alright spiritually but not washed from their filthiness,which means that they will still want to have their way somewhat even when they say they live for God,which the Bible says in the last days they will be lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God.They will be highly arrogant,and highly selfish,and greedy.


It will be this attitude of wanting to exalt themselves above authority,and have their own way,that will lead them to the beast system,which the beast system is all about man,with no governmental or religious authority above them.


So what caused this attitude that leads them to the beast system,that is an attitude unseen of before in the history of mankind,to where it basically impacts almost everybody,where in the past it impacted a few.


When you look at it,it seems like the attitude happens because of the children disobeying parents,not learning to humble themselves before parents,so they are less likely to humble themselves before God,which causes an increase in hypocrites,immorality,increase in selfishness and arrogance,and general me,me,me,attitude,that will eventually lead to a world that is full of Mr. Smiths,like in the Matrix movie.


And if you look at the 1960's with it's counterculture movement,which at it's core was exalt yourself,rebel against authority,you see the attitude displayed in Proverbs 30 out there,to where it does not matter how much money they have,it is never enough.


It looks like the 1960's counterculture movement,although appeared a good thing to the people that were part of it,was a major boo boo.I mean a major boo boo,a terrible disaster,in which God said will cause perilous times to come,and then describes that those perilous times will happen because of the attitude of the people,lover of their own selves,without natural affection,and disobedient to parents.A me,me,me attitude.


4And, ye fathers, provoke not your children to wrath: but bring them up in the nurture and admonition of the Lord(Ephesians 6:4).


But although children are to honor their parents,God also tells parents to act right towards their children,so they do not provoke their children to wrath,or do not provoke their children to be mad at them causing them to not respect their parents.


A lot of parents do not act right today as they used to,causing children to disrespect them.


We know because of the 1960's,with it's immorality,and disobedience to parents,that it caused the parents after that to have a somewhat relaxed discipline actions towards their children,and be drug users,alcoholics,partiers,and not too great in the parenting department,which causes children to disrespect them.


So you have a vicious cycle that gets worse.Children start rebelling against parents and happens nationwide.Those children grow up to be parents,and are immoral,relaxed in their dealing with children,for they are a product of have your own way,so they can't be too mad at their children.Which causes their children,along with the general rebellion that is going on anyway,to be more rebellious because they do not respect their parents,and it gets worse.
Children get rebellious,parents in the future do not act right in their parental role because they were involved in the rebellion,which causes the children to get more rebellious,which causes parents to be worse in their parental role in the future,which causes the children to be more rebellious,and so on.


The leave it to beaver days are over,and if the youth rebelled against parents who were not as bad as today in the 1960's,how much more will they rebel when the parents do not act decent,but are immoral,after that.


So God tells the children to honor their parents,and parents not to provoke their children to wrath.Both have a responsibility.Children to honor their parents,and parents to set a good moral example and act right towards their children so their children will not disrespect them,and rebel against them.


When a person marries and has a spouse,I do not believe they have to listen to their parents,or when they leave the house as an adult,they do not have to listen to their parents,because they are responsible for their own self.
But of course they should always listen to their parents when it comes to morality,and the ways of God,but they do not have to obey if they do not want to,at least not their parents,but they should obey God.



They do not have to obey their parents when they are on their own.If the parents say do not go out drinking,and a person is an adult living on their own,they do not have to obey their parents,for the parents do not have that authority over them anymore,or any decision like what house to buy.
Which means if you do not obey your parents when you are on your own as an adult,God will not hold it against you.
So obeying your parents is only for when a person is a child under the supervision of the parents,and the Bible says children obey your parents,not adults,showing you obey only when you are under their supervision as a child.


But of course when a person is a child,they never have to obey their parents if it ever goes against God's ways.If your Dad says hey let's steal that bike and have some fun,you do not have to obey.If your Dad says hey son,I know you are only 16 years old,but smoke some of this fine marijuana with me,you do not have to obey.If your Dad says,Johnny said I am an idiot,go beat him up son,you do not have to obey.
But of course if you do not beat up Johnny because your Dad told you to,he may be mad and whip your butt,but God will not hold it against you.
 
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