Prophesied by Joel...

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Edify

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Num. 11: 27-29
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27And there ran a young man, and told Moses, and said, Eldad and Medad do prophesy in the camp. 28And Joshua the son of Nun, the servant of Moses, one of his young men, answered and said, My lord Moses, forbid them. 29And Moses said unto him, Enviest thou for my sake? would God that all the LORD'S people were prophets, and that the LORD would put his spirit upon them!

Moses himself prophesied what God would do in the last days.

Paul tells us that all the church can prophesy.
1 Cor 14: 29Have two or three prophets speak, and have the others pass judgment. 30But if a revelation is made to another who is seated, then the first one is to keep silent. 31For you can all prophesy one by one, so that all may learn and all may be [l]exhorted; 32and the spirits of prophets are subject to prophets; 33for God is not a God of confusion, but of peace.

It's all there for anyone to read.
 
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Edify said:
No one that I know of has never considered that if all the Jews that day were Hebrew-speaking, tongues would not have been needed, but the 120 would have still prophesied because of their baptism to fulfill the prophecy of Joel.
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The real issue concerning the mention by Peter in reference towards the Prophecy of Joel 2 is that the literal Prophecy is to happen before the Glorious Day of the Lord or as we title it the Second Coming of Jesus.

But as we read the Prophecy of Joel 2 we see the mentioning of the early rain or former rain [which covers the 3,000 people saved in Acts Chapter 2] and then we read about the Latter Rain that is to happen before the Second Coming of Jesus Christ.

Also what is very notable about the Prophecy of Joel 2 is the mentioning of men and women would be vital in the preaching and testifying of God. And women were property in the days of Acts Chapter 2+ Apostles like Paul wouldn't allow women to preach.

So we know that would happen in the Latter Rain which even today we are seeing women preaching.

So it's extremely vital to differentiate between the Early Rain and the Latter Rain of the Prophecy of Joel 2 in order to understand what happened in Acts Chapter 2 and what's still going to happen soon in the coming days.
 
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Blain said:
So are you saying if one does not speak in tongues they are not filled with the spirit?
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I believe the word of God, and it reveals that speaking in tongues is the sign of the infilling of the Holy Spirit.
 
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Magenta said:
Broken record much? You keep repeating the same thing despite the very prevalent FACT that it does not prove your point.
But your wishful thinking comes through loud and clear.

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Faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
 
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Magenta said:
Broken record much? You keep repeating the same thing despite the very prevalent FACT that it does not prove your point.
But your wishful thinking comes through loud and clear.

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What are your thoughts concerning the questions presented in the post?

Jesus said to ask for the Holy Ghost. How would a person know they needed to ask for the Holy Ghost if there is no evidence when the experience takes place? (Luke 11:13)

How did the Samaritans know they had not received the Holy Ghost yet? And what happened to make them aware the experience had taken place? (Acts 8:12-18)

Paul asked the 12 Ephesus disciples, Have you received the Holy Ghost since your believed? How did Paul expect them to know if they had the Holy Ghost yet. Consider as well, Paul's question was an easy one to answer after the Ephesus disciples actually received the Holy Ghost. Why? Because the experience was confirmed by their speaking in tongues. (Acts 19:1-7)
 
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Blain said:
Except for the fact that the fruits of the spirit are the evidence of it not tongues that is a gift of the spirit not evidence of it, if one does not have the spirit they are not born again and saved so by your logic I am not saved
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We are all on a journey. Jesus said believers who continue in His word will know the truth and the truth will set them free. (John 8:31-32) He also said God will give the Holy Spirit to those who ask. (Luke 11:13) Why would Jesus tell people to ask for the Holy Spirit if they automatically receive the Holy Spirit when they first believed?
 
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wolfwint said:
I mean a person who is filled with the Holy Spirit dont lie and teach false doctrines. The RCC is an example for that.
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The Holy Spirit leads willing people into all truth. (John 16:13)
 
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wolfwint said:
Jesus did not taught, that the proof for getting the Holy Spirit is the gift of speaking in tongues. The gift of speaking in tounges was in Pauls time one among multi gifts. A gift which not every believer got. 1.Cor.12, 29-30.
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Do you deny that 100% of the individuals in Acts 2:2-4, 10:43-48, 19:1-7 spoke in tongues when they received God's gift of the Holy Spirit?
 
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