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False brothers or sisters or what ever we want to call them, they are the folks who profess to be a Christian but they are just acting. I remember watching a film put out by the Baptist years ago about this small group of young ladies who were in the tribulation and were hiding out from the Antichrist forces. Anyway, toward the end of the movie one of the group turned them all in and she was the most Christian acting person in the group. The other girls all turned to her and said, how could you do this? She then said to them, I am not a Christian, to which they all looked at her in astonishment, and then she said, well, anyone can ACT like a Christian. In the bible Paul wrote often of false apostles, John wrote of an obviously false brother who had control of the church, Jesus spoke of a woman who taught false doctrine. I think we would all be shocked to see the folks who are not really saved but are Pastors of big churches, famous bible teachers, some with big ministries. There may be some in here.
 

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False brothers or sisters or what ever we want to call them, they are the folks who profess to be a Christian but they are just acting. I remember watching a film put out by the Baptist years ago about this small group of young ladies who were in the tribulation and were hiding out from the Antichrist forces. Anyway, toward the end of the movie one of the group turned them all in and she was the most Christian acting person in the group. The other girls all turned to her and said, how could you do this? She then said to them, I am not a Christian, to which they all looked at her in astonishment, and then she said, well, anyone can ACT like a Christian. In the bible Paul wrote often of false apostles, John wrote of an obviously false brother who had control of the church, Jesus spoke of a woman who taught false doctrine. I think we would all be shocked to see the folks who are not really saved but are Pastors of big churches, famous bible teachers, some with big ministries. There may be some in here.
1: The movie you describe is typical Hollywood, giving the one finger salute to Christianity, so pay them no mind.

2: I attended seminary with professing Christians who adamantly opposed large portions of Scripture, and they openly declared their intentions to teach a message contrary to God's Word. And they were applauded by the swine who ran the school.
 
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I wonder, are such people as you describe confused Christians or people who profess to be Christian but actually are not? Just my opinion but I think that most folks who do such things are not indwelt by the Holy Spirit. Don't get me wrong, I know some folks that I am convinced are real Christians(only God knows) and I have seen them twist and pervert scripture, something that has to be against the Spirit of God.
 

Desertsrose

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1: The movie you describe is typical Hollywood, giving the one finger salute to Christianity, so pay them no mind.

2: I attended seminary with professing Christians who adamantly opposed large portions of Scripture, and they openly declared their intentions to teach a message contrary to God's Word. And they were applauded by the swine who ran the school.

Yikes, Utah!!!

Is that typical of seminaries? Or do you think just the one you attended? Do you want to share which one you went to?

I'd like to tell others to avoid it if they're so inclined to go to seminary.

That must have been an eye opening jaw dropping experience of shock and disbelief that they would figuratively rip out scriptures from their bible.
 

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Yikes, Utah!!!

Is that typical of seminaries? Or do you think just the one you attended? Do you want to share which one you went to?

I'd like to tell others to avoid it if they're so inclined to go to seminary.

That must have been an eye opening jaw dropping experience of shock and disbelief that they would figuratively rip out scriptures from their bible.
Okay sister, you asked for it. LOL. :D

I attended New Brunswick theological Seminary in New Brunswick, NJ. The seminary is of the Reformed Church in America and is a godless, liberal bastion of doubled standards that often opposes the very Word of God, common sense and decency.

During my time, almost every White woman, both student and faculty, was an outspoken divorcee with an axe to grind against men. The majority of Black students and faculty disliked White people and they spoke out daily against past injustices that I personally never committed, and they argued about modern day injustices that actually weren't injustices at all. Korean students wanted nothing to do with anyone, and the few conservative Christians had no voice -- until I started speaking out my 2nd year.

If you referred to God as your Father, you were DEMANDED to also refer to God as your mother, however, if you only wanted to refer to God as your mother then that was fine. I of course did not heed that demand.

There were discussions about Jesus being a genderless human being because women's needs are different than men's needs, and we men don't truly understand women's needs, therefore Jesus was genderless thus enabling "Him" to better understand women. So in other words, a person who is of neither gender knows better than someone who does have a gender. You simply can't make this stupidity up with a sound mind. Oh yeah, and, She That Is, was required reading, which I of course did not read.

Then there were viewpoints that neutered Jesus' divinity and those viewpoints were commonplace; people spoke openly about Jesus not being the only way to God, and that any avenue people wanted to take to be with God was divine and was to be respected, thereby completely discrediting Jesus' very words that we find in John 14:6.

One woman championed herself as going to tell God that when she died, He needed to send her back here so she could continue to work in the ministry because there weren't enough people doing so now. She spoke openly about her reincarnation and the students applauded her.

And last but not least, we of course had gay issues; no surprise there.

I can give you more specifics if you are interested, including other heresy, arguments, and a sermon I once gave where I called out students and administration alike for their behavior, and no, it was not received well. :cool:
 
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Some can see that christian TV has long been taken over by Satan, with a little handful of decent shows.

It should be no surprise, since the 1% have taken over secular universities that seminaries have been taken over also.

With so much Satan clearly seen everywhere,
you'd think folks would believe in Jesus, too.
 

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Some can see that christian TV has long been taken over by Satan, with a little handful of decent shows.

It should be no surprise, since the 1% have taken over secular universities that seminaries have been taken over also.

With so much Satan clearly seen everywhere,
you'd think folks would believe in Jesus, too.
I remember thinking all the time that the seminary was inundated with wolves in sheep's clothing.
 

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I remember thinking all the time that the seminary was inundated with wolves in sheep's clothing.
So did many of your peers from seminary go on to become pastors at various churches? Seems like people with such issues might find it difficult to preach from the bible about God's message.
 

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So did many of your peers from seminary go on to become pastors at various churches? Seems like people with such issues might find it difficult to preach from the bible about God's message.
The wolves have no trouble being ordained and overseeing congregations. They're the lunatics that have changed Spirit-filled congregations into lunatic asylums, and they're on a mission to re-write Scripture to fit their socialist-progressive political agendas, regardless of how contrary they may be to God's Word. Meanwhile, guys like me are on the outside looking in, but God will not be mocked, and a day of reckoning is on the horizon.
 

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Okay sister, you asked for it. LOL. :D

I attended New Brunswick theological Seminary in New Brunswick, NJ. The seminary is of the Reformed Church in America and is a godless, liberal bastion of doubled standards that often opposes the very Word of God, common sense and decency.

During my time, almost every White woman, both student and faculty, was an outspoken divorcee with an axe to grind against men. The majority of Black students and faculty disliked White people and they spoke out daily against past injustices that I personally never committed, and they argued about modern day injustices that actually weren't injustices at all. Korean students wanted nothing to do with anyone, and the few conservative Christians had no voice -- until I started speaking out my 2nd year.

If you referred to God as your Father, you were DEMANDED to also refer to God as your mother, however, if you only wanted to refer to God as your mother then that was fine. I of course did not heed that demand.

There were discussions about Jesus being a genderless human being because women's needs are different than men's needs, and we men don't truly understand women's needs, therefore Jesus was genderless thus enabling "Him" to better understand women. So in other words, a person who is of neither gender knows better than someone who does have a gender. You simply can't make this stupidity up with a sound mind. Oh yeah, and, She That Is, was required reading, which I of course did not read.

Then there were viewpoints that neutered Jesus' divinity and those viewpoints were commonplace; people spoke openly about Jesus not being the only way to God, and that any avenue people wanted to take to be with God was divine and was to be respected, thereby completely discrediting Jesus' very words that we find in John 14:6.

One woman championed herself as going to tell God that when she died, He needed to send her back here so she could continue to work in the ministry because there weren't enough people doing so now. She spoke openly about her reincarnation and the students applauded her.

And last but not least, we of course had gay issues; no surprise there.

I can give you more specifics if you are interested, including other heresy, arguments, and a sermon I once gave where I called out students and administration alike for their behavior, and no, it was not received well. :cool:
Before you signed up for this Seminary did you do any research as to what their theological position was or did you just stick a pin in a list and hope for the best?
 
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man-made institutions claiming that they are from Yeshua? AVOID!!!
 

Desertsrose

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Okay sister, you asked for it. LOL. :D

I attended New Brunswick theological Seminary in New Brunswick, NJ. The seminary is of the Reformed Church in America and is a godless, liberal bastion of doubled standards that often opposes the very Word of God, common sense and decency.

During my time, almost every White woman, both student and faculty, was an outspoken divorcee with an axe to grind against men. The majority of Black students and faculty disliked White people and they spoke out daily against past injustices that I personally never committed, and they argued about modern day injustices that actually weren't injustices at all. Korean students wanted nothing to do with anyone, and the few conservative Christians had no voice -- until I started speaking out my 2nd year.

If you referred to God as your Father, you were DEMANDED to also refer to God as your mother, however, if you only wanted to refer to God as your mother then that was fine. I of course did not heed that demand.

There were discussions about Jesus being a genderless human being because women's needs are different than men's needs, and we men don't truly understand women's needs, therefore Jesus was genderless thus enabling "Him" to better understand women. So in other words, a person who is of neither gender knows better than someone who does have a gender. You simply can't make this stupidity up with a sound mind. Oh yeah, and, She That Is, was required reading, which I of course did not read.

Then there were viewpoints that neutered Jesus' divinity and those viewpoints were commonplace; people spoke openly about Jesus not being the only way to God, and that any avenue people wanted to take to be with God was divine and was to be respected, thereby completely discrediting Jesus' very words that we find in John 14:6.

One woman championed herself as going to tell God that when she died, He needed to send her back here so she could continue to work in the ministry because there weren't enough people doing so now. She spoke openly about her reincarnation and the students applauded her.

And last but not least, we of course had gay issues; no surprise there.

I can give you more specifics if you are interested, including other heresy, arguments, and a sermon I once gave where I called out students and administration alike for their behavior, and no, it was not received well. :cool:

Yes, I'd like to hear more if you want to share. I've never heard of that denomination. Is that one you grew up in? If not, how did you choose that particular one to go to?

I thought all seminaries taught God's word and then you could specialize in one particular denomination during your studies.

Goes to show what I know about seminaries. Now I get why some call them
cemeteries.

So I guess they failed you?
 

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Before you signed up for this Seminary did you do any research as to what their theological position was or did you just stick a pin in a list and hope for the best?
Twenty years ago I was naïve to the ongoings within Christendom. The congregation I group up in was blessed to have a man of God serve as pastor for 33 years and I thought the seminary, being in the same town, would be a wonderful place to groom me for ministry.

I had no idea that a seminary could be a secular, spiritless institution of immoral depravity overflowing with hateful, agenda-driven wolves trying to wipe out God's Word as is. I was totally blindsided. Most references to Jesus were merely lip service, coming from hearts that were jaded and reluctant to purification.
 
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Okay sister, you asked for it. LOL. :D

I attended New Brunswick theological Seminary in New Brunswick, NJ. The seminary is of the Reformed Church in America and is a godless, liberal bastion of doubled standards that often opposes the very Word of God, common sense and decency.

During my time, almost every White woman, both student and faculty, was an outspoken divorcee with an axe to grind against men. The majority of Black students and faculty disliked White people and they spoke out daily against past injustices that I personally never committed, and they argued about modern day injustices that actually weren't injustices at all. Korean students wanted nothing to do with anyone, and the few conservative Christians had no voice -- until I started speaking out my 2nd year.

If you referred to God as your Father, you were DEMANDED to also refer to God as your mother, however, if you only wanted to refer to God as your mother then that was fine. I of course did not heed that demand.

There were discussions about Jesus being a genderless human being because women's needs are different than men's needs, and we men don't truly understand women's needs, therefore Jesus was genderless thus enabling "Him" to better understand women. So in other words, a person who is of neither gender knows better than someone who does have a gender. You simply can't make this stupidity up with a sound mind. Oh yeah, and, She That Is, was required reading, which I of course did not read.

Then there were viewpoints that neutered Jesus' divinity and those viewpoints were commonplace; people spoke openly about Jesus not being the only way to God, and that any avenue people wanted to take to be with God was divine and was to be respected, thereby completely discrediting Jesus' very words that we find in John 14:6.

One woman championed herself as going to tell God that when she died, He needed to send her back here so she could continue to work in the ministry because there weren't enough people doing so now. She spoke openly about her reincarnation and the students applauded her.

And last but not least, we of course had gay issues; no surprise there.

I can give you more specifics if you are interested, including other heresy, arguments, and a sermon I once gave where I called out students and administration alike for their behavior, and no, it was not received well. :cool:
wow, just wow..
 

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Yes, I'd like to hear more if you want to share. I've never heard of that denomination. Is that one you grew up in? If not, how did you choose that particular one to go to?

I thought all seminaries taught God's word and then you could specialize in one particular denomination during your studies.

Goes to show what I know about seminaries. Now I get why some call them
cemeteries.

So I guess they failed you?
I was raised in PCUSA, and students who attend a Reformed seminary can be ordained in the PCUSA, and vice versa. The seminary was in my hometown so it was a no brainer.

One evening I was informed that I would be giving a sermon the following week. As I sat in class wondering what I would preach on, I had an epiphany. I preached on what I saw before my very eyes ...

I preached on divisions within the body of Christ and the detriment such divisions brought to the Kingdom. People were smiling and nodding their approval until I hit them with a hard truth. I told the class to look around the room and see firsthand the divisions within the body of Christ that they created.

What they saw was the following: four rows of White students, five rows of Black students, and two rows of Korean students. Segregation and division by their own doing. I challenged them in asking, if we can't get along in this room, how would we be bringing solidarity and unity beyond the seminary walls? Boy were they ticked at me! It was my finest moment. And for the record, I sat in one of the otherwise all black rows.

On a side note, I had a wonderful relationship with a few Black students who truly loved God and we're not imprisoned with hating others because of their ethnicity. They loved the fact that I did not yield to the White bourgeois elitists and their propaganda, which by the way, was aimed only at White students. The Black students didn't play that gender neutral nonsense regarding God and Jesus.
 
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So did many of your peers from seminary go on to become pastors at various churches? Seems like people with such issues might find it difficult to preach from the bible about God's message.
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most truly 'don't want to HEAR Jesus' TRUE MESSAGE, that's why they go to church' in the first place,
to find someone who preaches what makes them feel COMFORTABLE and ACCEPTABLE in their lives...
that's what 'seminaries'/cemetaries' are all about, MOST of them...