Religion should be organized

[Hearer]

God is known in the scriptures as the God of hosts (heaven's armies) and Jesus approved of the Roman soldier's great faith when he said tto Jesus that Jesus has servants under his command and can say the word and his own Roman servant will be healed.

The angel hosts with those like Gabriel serve the Lord and are organzied messengers. Jesus even said that when we die we become like the real/literal angels.

Why then if heaven is so organized should religion on earth be individualistic and without structure and traditions based on heavenly worship?

 

[FSUBoy966]

Religious structure by a non-perfect person (so EVERYONE) would be chaos, corrupted and eventually become either a government or organized crime. Look at the Catholic Church. I have nothing at all against the beliefs of Catholics or the Pope or anything, but in the past, the Church was extremely corrupt and caused multiple wars with different faiths simply because the Pope said so. One person should not have that much power in religion.

 

[Hearer]

Religious structure by a non-perfect person (so EVERYONE) would be chaos, corrupted and eventually become either a government or organized crime. Look at the Catholic Church. I have nothing at all against the beliefs of Catholics or the Pope or anything, but in the past, the Church was extremely corrupt and caused multiple wars with different faiths simply because the Pope said so. One person should not have that much power in religion.

I agree, which is why there has been much reform in the ancient church and now it is a gentle spirit-led church just as it should be, under a gentle theologian-pope who is himself humble.

 

[loveschild]

God is known in the scriptures as the God of hosts (heaven's armies) and Jesus approved of the Roman soldier's great faith when he said tto Jesus that Jesus has servants under his command and can say the word and his own Roman servant will be healed.

The angel hosts with those like Gabriel serve the Lord and are organzied messengers. Jesus even said that when we die we become like the real/literal angels.

Why then if heaven is so organized should religion on earth be individualistic and without structure and traditions based on heavenly worship?

1. 1 Corinthians 12:28
   So God has appointed some in the church [ for His own use]: first apostles (special messengers); second prophets (inspired preachers and expounders); third teachers; then wonder-workers; then those with ability to heal the sick; helpers; administrators; [speakers in] different (unknown) tongues.
   1 Corinthians 12:27-29 (in Context) 1 Corinthians 12 (Whole Chapter)

Your to find out who these people are in the church. In the first place when picking to work in the church they were to be filled with the power of God.

Acts 2:4
And they were all filled (diffused throughout their souls) with the Holy Spirit and began to speak in other (different, foreign) languages (tongues), as the Spirit kept giving them clear and loud expression [in each tongue in appropriate words].

You have people these days running churches and they don't even know the Holy Spirit.

1. Matthew 22:30
   For in the resurrected state neither do [men] marry nor are [women] given in marriage, but they are like the angels in heaven.
   Matthew 22:29-31 (in Context) Matthew 22 (Whole Chapter)

We don't turn into angles when we die. This was only talking about there isn't marriage any more. WE don't have sex in heaven in other words. People are people and angels are angels forever. When we die we don't turn into angels. This teaching needs to stop.

 

[Hearer]

1. 1 Corinthians 12:28
   So God has appointed some in the church [ for His own use]: first apostles (special messengers); second prophets (inspired preachers and expounders); third teachers; then wonder-workers; then those with ability to heal the sick; helpers; administrators; [speakers in] different (unknown) tongues.
   1 Corinthians 12:27-29 (in Context) 1 Corinthians 12 (Whole Chapter)

Your to find out who these people are in the church. In the first place when picking to work in the church they were to be filled with the power of God.

Acts 2:4
And they were all filled (diffused throughout their souls) with the Holy Spirit and began to speak in other (different, foreign) languages (tongues), as the Spirit kept giving them clear and loud expression [in each tongue in appropriate words].

You have people these days running churches and they don't even know the Holy Spirit.

1. Matthew 22:30
   For in the resurrected state neither do [men] marry nor are [women] given in marriage, but they are like the angels in heaven.
   Matthew 22:29-31 (in Context) Matthew 22 (Whole Chapter)

We don't turn into angles when we die. This was only talking about there isn't marriage any more. WE don't have sex in heaven in other words. People are people and angels are angels forever. When we die we don't turn into angels. This teaching needs to stop.

ya,

which church, one of the hundreds of dissident ones?

And no one said we become angels. I said as Jesus said we become like the angels, in order to point out that heaven is organized. Our place in heaven will also be organized. So it should be here on earth under one unified and ancient church.

Jesus said we should pray:

"Your kingdon come on earth as it is in heaven".

so we shoiuld worship and live like it is heaven!

 

[loveschild]

ya,

which church, one of the hundreds of dissident ones?

And no one said we become angels. I said as Jesus said we become like the angels, in order to point out that heaven is organized. Our place in heaven will also be organized. So it should be here on earth under one unified and ancient church.

Jesus said we should pray:

"Your kingdon come on earth as it is in heaven".

so we shoiuld worship and live like it is heaven!

Yes some of us live in heaven on earth now thank God. I see his miracles all the time. There are levels in everything that's for sure. Some will rule nations depending on what they did on earth. When we go to heaven and come back to earth we have our jobs to do just as we have our jobs to do now. Yes there are different levels in heaven also.

 

[Hearer]

Yes some of us live in heaven on earth now thank God. I see his miracles all the time. There are levels in everything that's for sure. Some will rule nations depending on what they did on earth. When we go to heaven and come back to earth we have our jobs to do just as we have our jobs to do now. Yes there are different levels in heaven also.

a lot of your thinking is very sensible

 

[loveschild]

a lot of your thinking is very sensible

Well thank you! I like that much more than some of stuff that happens here. I like talking to you. God bless you and your family!

 

[zone]

I agree, which is why there has been much reform in the ancient church and now it is a gentle spirit-led church just as it should be, under a gentle theologian-pope who is himself humble.

*cough*
isn't mr. ratzinger currently the Grand Inquisitor?

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