Saudi Woman Guilty of Being a Sports Fan.

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Rachel20

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:( Sadly, this is how regressive some places can be for women..


And Jim, the irony is I just made a thread about sports too.
 
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Was this woman arrested? Questioned? Ejected? Stoned? Then why is this a news story? Just because a few Saudis think it unseemly for a woman to be acting like a guy at a soccer game?
 

JimJimmers

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Was this woman arrested? Questioned? Ejected? Stoned? Then why is this a news story? Just because a few Saudis think it unseemly for a woman to be acting like a guy at a soccer game?

In the article it says how many laws are unwritten, and a judge can decide to punish her a number of ways.

Moreover, I think it's noteworthy that she isn't allowed to enter a soccer stadium in Saudi Arabia, which is supposed to be one of the more progressive Muslim countries.
 
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Agricola

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Yes 100 lashes should stop her rebellious ways.
 

Angela53510

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Please read the link before you comment.

"The absolute monarchy is the only country in the world where women are legally banned from driving and, until recently, voting and being elected to political office.All females must have a male guardian, typically a father, brother or husband, without whose permission they can't travel, get a job, conduct official business like opening bank accounts, or even have certain medical procedures.
Laws are mostly unwritten, so the exclusively male judges have a lot of discretionary power which they usually exercise in favour of conservative tribal customs."


As far as Saudi Arabia being progressive for women, not so much! This is the home of the infamous Wahhabi sect that spawned the likes of Osama bin Laden. Pretty regressive, except for maybe Mozambique and a few other small countries.
 
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1still_waters

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Please read the link before you comment.

"The absolute monarchy is the only country in the world where women are legally banned from driving and, until recently, voting and being elected to political office.All females must have a male guardian, typically a father, brother or husband, without whose permission they can't travel, get a job, conduct official business like opening bank accounts, or even have certain medical procedures.
Laws are mostly unwritten, so the exclusively male judges have a lot of discretionary power which they usually exercise in favour of conservative tribal customs."


As far as Saudi Arabia being progressive for women, not so much! This is the home of the infamous Wahhabi sect that spawned the likes of Osama bin Laden. Pretty regressive, except for maybe Mozambique and a few other small countries.
If ISIS were an established political state on the Arabian peninsula the USA would be doing business with them, not bombing them. Saudi Arabia does many of the evils we claim to hate in ISIS.
 
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Yes 100 lashes should stop her rebellious ways.
The Saudis are soft. I see no evidence in the article that the woman faced even the smallest consequences or attention from authorities.
 

Angela53510

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Not being able to drive, or go out in public without a male escort?? Pretty regressive, and stiff penalties for flaunting the law, not mentioned in the article. Ths applies to foreign women too!

My BIL worked in Saudi Arabia for a while, and he said living thee was horrible for non-Muslims! This is all cultural, and is rarely addressed, because of the clout the Saudis have because of oil money!

Saudi Arabia’s oppression of women goes way beyond its ban on driving - The Washington Post

"For the second time in three years, dozens of Saudi women are getting behind the wheel to protest their country's practice of forbidding driver's licenses for women. The de facto ban on female drivers is Saudi Arabia's best-known restriction against women, a symbol of the larger system of gender-based law that makes it one of the worst countries for women, according to the World Economic Forum's annual report on gender rights.

Saudi Arabia's restrictions on women go far, far beyond just driving, though. It's part of a larger system of customs and laws that make women heavily reliant on men for their basic, day-to-day survival. This video, produced by Amnesty U.K. in 2011, a few months after Saudi women's rights activists staged their last protest drive, helps explain just how it works to be a woman in Saudi Arabia."

"If you couldn't make it through the video, here's the rundown: each Saudi woman has a "male guardian," typically their father or brother or husband, who has the same sort of legal power over her that a parent has over a child. She needs his formal permission to travel, work, go to school or get medical treatment. She's also dependent on him for everything: money, housing, and, because the driving ban means she needs a driver to go anywhere, even the ability to go to the store or visit a friend.


It's one thing for women to depend on men to go anywhere, putting their movement under male veto power. But it's quite another when they also must have a man's approval to travel abroad, get a job or do just about anything that involves being outside of the home. It consigns women to second-class-citizenship, which is unfortunately common in a number of countries, but goes a step further in Saudi Arabia. Saudi women have many of their most basic rights reduced to probationary privileges, granted only if the man who is assigned as their "guardian" feels like granting them. And because women are typically forbidden to interact with men who are not family members, they've got little to no recourse beyond that guardian. The almost complete lack of political rights doesn't help, either."