Spiritually Dead or Alive

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How can anyone follow Christ unless they takes up their cross and follow the promises of God. There are scores of people on this site that have no idea what it means to take up their cross. They have no idea what it means to bank on the promises of God. Therefore, they are dead and bankrupt spiritually, and don't even know it. They are so caught up in how they are being effected by everything around them and what they want out of life, that they have no concern for the things of God. They call themselves a Christian yet live just like everybody else. They want the same things, they desire the same things and think just like others. Then they get upset if things don't go right and get depressed and think that God doesn't love them. Some of them swear like a pirate and don't blink an eye because everybody else does it to. The 'F' word is even part of their vocabulary and it doesn't just slip out once and awhile either. They go to church and hear the word being preached and act like it's just another message and spend their time thinking about when will this be over, so they can go get something to eat. If you mention things like justification, the promises of God or the atonement, that goes right over their head and they just tune it out. If you ask them to pray with you, they don't have time. If you ask them to go soul winning, they tell you they don't feel good and maybe some other time. You ask them to lay their life down in some capacity to serve others, they tell you 'it's not them'.

They will read this post and think to themselves, who does this guy think he is. They will make some silly comment like, 'We've got to love one another and say kind things because that is what Christ would do' How about loving God and living by faith and start obeying what He has commanded us to do? How about laying your life down for others as Christ laid His life down for you? How about taking up your cross and stop complaining about details and love the lost by giving them the gospel? How about getting off your duffer and bear your brothers burden and spend time on your knees praying for others? How about if you stop searching for a husband or wife and develop your relationship with Christ' who you are going to be married to in heaven someday? Some claim that Christ is their only example that they would ever aspire to. Well, if He is your example are you following in His steps. He took up His cross are you taking up yours? He laid His life down for others are you doing the same? He preached the gospel everywhere He went are you doing that also? If any of this condemns you, maybe it is not me that's doing it but your own heart (1John 3:20). And thank God that He is greater than your heart. It just makes you wander what is going on in some people's heart and mind.
 
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Peace be to you

I worry about them too Blc
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For the time [is come] that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if [it] first [begin] at us, what shall the end [be] of them that obey not the gospel of God?And if the righteous scarcely be saved, where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear?

Wherefore let them that suffer according to the will of God commit the keeping of their souls [to him] in well doing, as unto a faithful Creator.


Love a friend in God
 
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This makes me think of that passage in the bible that says "Let he who is without sin, cast the first stone" and "remove the plank from your own eye before you try to remove the speck of dirt from your brothers eye". We are all growing, we all sin (even if you don't swear like a pirate I'm fairly certain you would have engaged in sin in some form or another) and life is one continuous journey where the Lord is shaping each and every one of us to become the person he wants us to be. Unfortunately some of our journey's are rampant with defilement and adversity but that's one of the ways God uses his people so as they can become stronger and find their lot in life. We are all here to learn and support one another and try to make sense of the things around us and I'm pretty sure that most of us are here to seek God and become better Christian's. And I don't think you should try and censor what people can and can't write on this forum because by doing that you're saying that their grievances don't matter just because they are irrelevant to you. So what if someone wants a Christian wife or a Christian husband? Don't visit that particular thread and then you won't have to read it if it repulses you so much. And you don't know what is in people's hearts as it is between them and God... I am one of these people you speak of and I struggle everyday with my walk with the Lord because I swear like a pirate and I live just like everyone else but I am still honestly wanting to change because I do love my God. People struggle and always will and I think you should be more encouraging rather than shooting us down because we are not as advanced as you in our walk. If we could simply just take up our cross ect without struggle then what would be the point in Jesus? I have to come to seek and have been promised he will find me . You should think about what you are saying in a public forum as I think new Christian's would find this extremely discouraging. I know I do.

Anyways I apologise if I sound rude or nasty, not my intention but I don't agree with the context of this thread. I understand your frustrations as most of what you say is correct but I just think you should be more sympathetic to other people who seek God because like I said you don't know what's in their heart and it's useless trying to assume.
 
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Spiritually Dead or Alive
How can anyone follow Christ unless they takes up their cross and follow the promises of God. There are scores of people on this site that have no idea what it means to take up their cross. They have no idea what it means to bank on the promises of God. Therefore, they are dead and bankrupt spiritually, and don't even know it. They are so caught up in how they are being effected by everything around them and what they want out of life, that they have no concern for the things of God. They call themselves a Christian yet live just like everybody else. They want the same things, they desire the same things and think just like others. Then they get upset if things don't go right and get depressed and think that God doesn't love them. Some of them swear like a pirate and don't blink an eye because everybody else does it to. The 'F' word is even part of their vocabulary and it doesn't just slip out once and awhile either. They go to church and hear the word being preached and act like it's just another message and spend their time thinking about when will this be over, so they can go get something to eat. If you mention things like justification, the promises of God or the atonement, that goes right over their head and they just tune it out. If you ask them to pray with you, they don't have time. If you ask them to go soul winning, they tell you they don't feel good and maybe some other time. You ask them to lay their life down in some capacity to serve others, they tell you 'it's not them'.

They will read this post and think to themselves, who does this guy think he is. They will make some silly comment like, 'We've got to love one another and say kind things because that is what Christ would do' How about loving God and living by faith and start obeying what He has commanded us to do? How about laying your life down for others as Christ laid His life down for you? How about taking up your cross and stop complaining about details and love the lost by giving them the gospel? How about getting off your duffer and bear your brothers burden and spend time on your knees praying for others? How about if you stop searching for a husband or wife and develop your relationship with Christ' who you are going to be married to in heaven someday? Some claim that Christ is their only example that they would ever aspire to. Well, if He is your example are you following in His steps. He took up His cross are you taking up yours? He laid His life down for others are you doing the same? He preached the gospel everywhere He went are you doing that also? If any of this condemns you, maybe it is not me that's doing it but your own heart (1John 3:20). And thank God that He is greater than your heart. It just makes you wander what is going on in some people's heart and mind.
There is so many issues posted here.. But you really know nothing about what people are doing when they are not on CC.. I love God. I witness to others, I always pray for others when they ask for prayer. I have many friends and family member as well who are not christians call me and ask for prayer all the time.. I always take time to pray for them.. I believe we are to walk daily in the light..Some people we are the only bible they see.. But also I believe God expects us to enjoy life and live it as well. So just because sometimes we are all laughing and joking in chat does not mean we ate not being a Christian.. And as for people swearing I agree that is wrong. But on another note. Maybe they are new babes in Christ and are stuggling with that, They thing is we have to let them know politly they should not be saying that and pray that God will help them with that area in their life. One think I have learned over the years is that it is not in What you say but is how you say it.. You can say it in love and concern or you can say it in anger.. You choose.

May God bless and keep you..
Raeshelle
 
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Jenesis

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I totally agree with you Raeshelle.
 

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You have neither been rude nor nasty but have expressed your desire and heart to grow up in Christ. It's okay that you don't agree with the context of this thread and my intention is not to judge you or censor anyone. I have no stones to throw nor do I condemn you in anyway. I don't know who you are, but I do know that many believers live as was described. Some of the big reasons for living that way have to do with not having a local church and body of believers that love God and have decided to take up their cross and follow Christ. Jesus Christ said that if any would come to Him, He would give them rest for their soul, because His yoke is easy and His burden is light (Mt 11:28-30). Jesus Christ is in the midst of His people and in His presence is fullness of joy (Ps 16:11).

Just imagine what it would be like to be in the midst of a group of people, whose hearts have been set on fire with the love of God and live their life to please Him in all things. If God has put you in the midst of that kind of ministry then cherish it and follow Christ who is the head of that body of believers. They are not perfect and don't have to be, but they look to Christ who is perfect. If they fail or sin, they are not condemned but rather built up in who they are in Christ. There are many here on this site, who are precious believers and love God with all their heart. Please don't let my convictions about the assurance of eternal life for all believers make you think that I am judging anyone, because I am not. Jesus Christ is our eternal life. When someone teaches that you can lose eternal life that God has given you when you first believed, is saying that God is not faithful with what He has promised and that He would leave you when things got really bad in your faith. That is a very serious error and no believer should have to live with that wrong understanding about the nature and faithfulness of God and Jesus Christ His Son.
 
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Jenesis

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Cool I'm glad that's sorted then. Thanks for your reply.
 
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