The Great American Sell Out, (1993 NAFTA) & (2000 China) Trade Agreements, The Congressional Voting Record

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Truth7t7

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#1
50 years ago it was a sin to take American business outside the country, the bipartisan sell out in Congress is seen below?

NAFTA in 1993 was the major turning point on the sell out, then followed by China being removed from a declared enemy, to the most favored nation for trade in 2000, check the voting out below, the political sell out of America $$$

Senate Congressional Record:

Senate Vote Nov 20, 1993 NAFTA Free Trade

Grouped By Vote Position
YEAs ---61
Baucus (D-MT)
Bennett (R-UT)
Biden (D-DE)
Bingaman (D-NM)
Bond (R-MO)
Boren (D-OK)
Bradley (D-NJ)
Breaux (D-LA)
Brown (R-CO)
Bumpers (D-AR)
Chafee (R-RI)
Coats (R-IN)
Cochran (R-MS)
Coverdell (R-GA)
Danforth (R-MO)
Daschle (D-SD)
DeConcini (D-AZ)
Dodd (D-CT)
Dole (R-KS)
Domenici (R-NM)
Durenberger (R-MN)
Gorton (R-WA)
Graham (D-FL)
Gramm (R-TX)
Grassley (R-IA)
Gregg (R-NH)
Harkin (D-IA)
Hatch (R-UT)
Hatfield (R-OR)
Hutchison (R-TX)
Jeffords (R-VT)
Johnston (D-LA)
Kassebaum (R-KS)
Kennedy (D-MA)
Kerrey (D-NE)
Kerry (D-MA)
Leahy (D-VT)
Lieberman (D-CT)
Lott (R-MS)
Lugar (R-IN)
Mack (R-FL)
Mathews (D-TN)
McCain (R-AZ)
McConnell (R-KY)
Mitchell (D-ME)
Moseley-Braun (D-IL)
Murkowski (R-AK)
Murray (D-WA)
Nickles (R-OK)
Nunn (D-GA)
Packwood (R-OR)
Pell (D-RI)
Pressler (R-SD)
Pryor (D-AR)
Robb (D-VA)
Roth (R-DE)
Simon (D-IL)
Simpson (R-WY)
Specter (R-PA)
Wallop (R-WY)
Warner (R-VA)
NAYs ---38
Akaka (D-HI)
Boxer (D-CA)
Bryan (D-NV)
Burns (R-MT)
Byrd (D-WV)
Campbell (D-CO)
Cohen (R-ME)
Conrad (D-ND)
Craig (R-ID)
D'Amato (R-NY)
Exon (D-NE)
Faircloth (R-NC)
Feingold (D-WI)
Feinstein (D-CA)
Ford (D-KY)
Glenn (D-OH)
Heflin (D-AL)
Helms (R-NC)
Hollings (D-SC)
Inouye (D-HI)
Kempthorne (R-ID)
Kohl (D-WI)
Lautenberg (D-NJ)
Levin (D-MI)
Metzenbaum (D-OH)
Mikulski (D-MD)
Moynihan (D-NY)
Reid (D-NV)
Riegle (D-MI)
Rockefeller (D-WV)
Sarbanes (D-MD)
Sasser (D-TN)
Shelby (D-AL)
Smith (R-NH)
Stevens (R-AK)
Thurmond (R-SC)
Wellstone (D-MN)
Wofford (D-PA)
Not Voting - 1
Dorgan (D-ND)

Senate Congressional Record:

Senate Vote Sep 19, 2000 Normal China Trade Relations

Grouped By Vote Position
YEAs ---83
Abraham (R-MI)
Allard (R-CO)
Ashcroft (R-MO)
Baucus (D-MT)
Bayh (D-IN)
Bennett (R-UT)
Biden (D-DE)
Bingaman (D-NM)
Bond (R-MO)
Boxer (D-CA)
Breaux (D-LA)
Brownback (R-KS)
Bryan (D-NV)
Burns (R-MT)
Chafee, L. (R-RI)
Cleland (D-GA)
Cochran (R-MS)
Collins (R-ME)
Conrad (D-ND)
Craig (R-ID)
Crapo (R-ID)
Daschle (D-SD)
DeWine (R-OH)
Dodd (D-CT)
Domenici (R-NM)
Dorgan (D-ND)
Durbin (D-IL)
Edwards (D-NC)
Enzi (R-WY)
Feinstein (D-CA)
Fitzgerald (R-IL)
Frist (R-TN)
Gorton (R-WA)
Graham (D-FL)
Gramm (R-TX)
Grams (R-MN)
Grassley (R-IA)
Gregg (R-NH)
Hagel (R-NE)
Harkin (D-IA)
Hatch (R-UT)
Hutchison (R-TX)
Inouye (D-HI)
Johnson (D-SD)
Kennedy (D-MA)
Kerrey (D-NE)
Kerry (D-MA)
Kohl (D-WI)
Kyl (R-AZ)
Landrieu (D-LA)
Lautenberg (D-NJ)
Leahy (D-VT)
Levin (D-MI)
Lincoln (D-AR)
Lott (R-MS)
Lugar (R-IN)
Mack (R-FL)
McCain (R-AZ)
McConnell (R-KY)
Miller (D-GA)
Moynihan (D-NY)
Murkowski (R-AK)
Murray (D-WA)
Nickles (R-OK)
Reed (D-RI)
Robb (D-VA)
Roberts (R-KS)
Rockefeller (D-WV)
Roth (R-DE)
Santorum (R-PA)
Schumer (D-NY)
Sessions (R-AL)
Shelby (R-AL)
Smith (R-OR)
Snowe (R-ME)
Stevens (R-AK)
Thomas (R-WY)
Thompson (R-TN)
Thurmond (R-SC)
Torricelli (D-NJ)
Voinovich (R-OH)
Warner (R-VA)
Wyden (D-OR)
NAYs ---15
Bunning (R-KY)
Byrd (D-WV)
Campbell (R-CO)
Feingold (D-WI)
Helms (R-NC)
Hollings (D-SC)
Hutchinson (R-AR)
Inhofe (R-OK)
Jeffords (R-VT)
Mikulski (D-MD)
Reid (D-NV)
Sarbanes (D-MD)
Smith (R-NH)
Specter (R-PA)
Wellstone (D-MN)
Not Voting - 2
Akaka (D-HI)
Lieberman (D-CT)
 

Lanolin

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Dec 15, 2018
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#2
meh
thing is the US cant compete against the biggest populated country of the world.
its just another victim of globalisation.

what people need to do is make it FAIR trade but politicians and economists just arent interested. Besides people like their cheap plastic toys, mobile phones and computers too much. Though the chinese dont always know why americans insist on buying that junk! (or ripped jeans...I alwys laugh when I see people wear ripped jeans)

The US exports to china soybeans, aircraft and cars.
 

Truth7t7

Well-known member
May 19, 2020
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#3
meh
thing is the US cant compete against the biggest populated country of the world.
its just another victim of globalisation.

what people need to do is make it FAIR trade but politicians and economists just arent interested. Besides people like their cheap plastic toys, mobile phones and computers too much. Though the chinese dont always know why americans insist on buying that junk! (or ripped jeans...I alwys laugh when I see people wear ripped jeans)

The US exports to china soybeans, aircraft and cars.
Fair trade means they win, you lose, it's that simple.

A free democracy cant compete with a communist dictatorship.

China for example manipulates and controls currency, and has targeted production with government subsidized (Dumping) of products, to shutdown targeted industries, steel being just one example.

Trade tariffs protect a way of life, Japan has been a prime example of this fact.

Put two storage tanks of water side by side, put a pipe between them, one is full, the other is empty, open the valve and the full tank goes down, and the empty tank up, that's globalization in world trade, its that simple.

Should a God fearing country that God has blessed, give their wealth to a country that is in abuse of human rights, the environment, and Christian values, no
 

Truth7t7

Well-known member
May 19, 2020
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#4
50 years ago it was a sin to take American business outside the country, the bipartisan sell out in Congress is seen below?

NAFTA in 1993 was the major turning point on the sell out, then followed by China being removed from a declared enemy, to the most favored nation for trade in 2000, check the voting out below, the political sell out of America $$$

Senate Congressional Record:

Senate Vote Nov 20, 1993 NAFTA Free Trade

Grouped By Vote Position
YEAs ---61
Baucus (D-MT)
Bennett (R-UT)
Biden (D-DE)
Bingaman (D-NM)
Bond (R-MO)
Boren (D-OK)
Bradley (D-NJ)
Breaux (D-LA)
Brown (R-CO)
Bumpers (D-AR)
Chafee (R-RI)
Coats (R-IN)
Cochran (R-MS)
Coverdell (R-GA)
Danforth (R-MO)
Daschle (D-SD)
DeConcini (D-AZ)
Dodd (D-CT)
Dole (R-KS)
Domenici (R-NM)
Durenberger (R-MN)
Gorton (R-WA)
Graham (D-FL)
Gramm (R-TX)
Grassley (R-IA)
Gregg (R-NH)
Harkin (D-IA)
Hatch (R-UT)
Hatfield (R-OR)
Hutchison (R-TX)
Jeffords (R-VT)
Johnston (D-LA)
Kassebaum (R-KS)
Kennedy (D-MA)
Kerrey (D-NE)
Kerry (D-MA)
Leahy (D-VT)
Lieberman (D-CT)
Lott (R-MS)
Lugar (R-IN)
Mack (R-FL)
Mathews (D-TN)
McCain (R-AZ)
McConnell (R-KY)
Mitchell (D-ME)
Moseley-Braun (D-IL)
Murkowski (R-AK)
Murray (D-WA)
Nickles (R-OK)
Nunn (D-GA)
Packwood (R-OR)
Pell (D-RI)
Pressler (R-SD)
Pryor (D-AR)
Robb (D-VA)
Roth (R-DE)
Simon (D-IL)
Simpson (R-WY)
Specter (R-PA)
Wallop (R-WY)
Warner (R-VA)
NAYs ---38
Akaka (D-HI)
Boxer (D-CA)
Bryan (D-NV)
Burns (R-MT)
Byrd (D-WV)
Campbell (D-CO)
Cohen (R-ME)
Conrad (D-ND)
Craig (R-ID)
D'Amato (R-NY)
Exon (D-NE)
Faircloth (R-NC)
Feingold (D-WI)
Feinstein (D-CA)
Ford (D-KY)
Glenn (D-OH)
Heflin (D-AL)
Helms (R-NC)
Hollings (D-SC)
Inouye (D-HI)
Kempthorne (R-ID)
Kohl (D-WI)
Lautenberg (D-NJ)
Levin (D-MI)
Metzenbaum (D-OH)
Mikulski (D-MD)
Moynihan (D-NY)
Reid (D-NV)
Riegle (D-MI)
Rockefeller (D-WV)
Sarbanes (D-MD)
Sasser (D-TN)
Shelby (D-AL)
Smith (R-NH)
Stevens (R-AK)
Thurmond (R-SC)
Wellstone (D-MN)
Wofford (D-PA)
Not Voting - 1
Dorgan (D-ND)

Senate Congressional Record:

Senate Vote Sep 19, 2000 Normal China Trade Relations

Grouped By Vote Position
YEAs ---83
Abraham (R-MI)
Allard (R-CO)
Ashcroft (R-MO)
Baucus (D-MT)
Bayh (D-IN)
Bennett (R-UT)
Biden (D-DE)
Bingaman (D-NM)
Bond (R-MO)
Boxer (D-CA)
Breaux (D-LA)
Brownback (R-KS)
Bryan (D-NV)
Burns (R-MT)
Chafee, L. (R-RI)
Cleland (D-GA)
Cochran (R-MS)
Collins (R-ME)
Conrad (D-ND)
Craig (R-ID)
Crapo (R-ID)
Daschle (D-SD)
DeWine (R-OH)
Dodd (D-CT)
Domenici (R-NM)
Dorgan (D-ND)
Durbin (D-IL)
Edwards (D-NC)
Enzi (R-WY)
Feinstein (D-CA)
Fitzgerald (R-IL)
Frist (R-TN)
Gorton (R-WA)
Graham (D-FL)
Gramm (R-TX)
Grams (R-MN)
Grassley (R-IA)
Gregg (R-NH)
Hagel (R-NE)
Harkin (D-IA)
Hatch (R-UT)
Hutchison (R-TX)
Inouye (D-HI)
Johnson (D-SD)
Kennedy (D-MA)
Kerrey (D-NE)
Kerry (D-MA)
Kohl (D-WI)
Kyl (R-AZ)
Landrieu (D-LA)
Lautenberg (D-NJ)
Leahy (D-VT)
Levin (D-MI)
Lincoln (D-AR)
Lott (R-MS)
Lugar (R-IN)
Mack (R-FL)
McCain (R-AZ)
McConnell (R-KY)
Miller (D-GA)
Moynihan (D-NY)
Murkowski (R-AK)
Murray (D-WA)
Nickles (R-OK)
Reed (D-RI)
Robb (D-VA)
Roberts (R-KS)
Rockefeller (D-WV)
Roth (R-DE)
Santorum (R-PA)
Schumer (D-NY)
Sessions (R-AL)
Shelby (R-AL)
Smith (R-OR)
Snowe (R-ME)
Stevens (R-AK)
Thomas (R-WY)
Thompson (R-TN)
Thurmond (R-SC)
Torricelli (D-NJ)
Voinovich (R-OH)
Warner (R-VA)
Wyden (D-OR)
NAYs ---15
Bunning (R-KY)
Byrd (D-WV)
Campbell (R-CO)
Feingold (D-WI)
Helms (R-NC)
Hollings (D-SC)
Hutchinson (R-AR)
Inhofe (R-OK)
Jeffords (R-VT)
Mikulski (D-MD)
Reid (D-NV)
Sarbanes (D-MD)
Smith (R-NH)
Specter (R-PA)
Wellstone (D-MN)
Not Voting - 2
Akaka (D-HI)
Lieberman (D-CT)
There it is, check it out!
 

Lanolin

Well-known member
Dec 15, 2018
23,460
7,173
113
#5
Fair trade means they win, you lose, it's that simple.

A free democracy cant compete with a communist dictatorship.

China for example manipulates and controls currency, and has targeted production with government subsidized (Dumping) of products, to shutdown targeted industries, steel being just one example.

Trade tariffs protect a way of life, Japan has been a prime example of this fact.

Put two storage tanks of water side by side, put a pipe between them, one is full, the other is empty, open the valve and the full tank goes down, and the empty tank up, that's globalization in world trade, its that simple.

Should a God fearing country that God has blessed, give their wealth to a country that is in abuse of human rights, the environment, and Christian values, no
oh ok whatever, I guess dont trade with anybody then and you will be right.

I notice americans have plenty of oil, but they still want to buy from arab countries who can sell it cheaper. makes no sense....

plus whats the deal with cutting down amazon rainforests to have land so you can have mcdonalds hamburgers? Dont you have your own land and farms to raise cattle?
 

Truth7t7

Well-known member
May 19, 2020
7,685
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#6
oh ok whatever, I guess dont trade with anybody then and you will be right.

I notice americans have plenty of oil, but they still want to buy from arab countries who can sell it cheaper. makes no sense....

plus whats the deal with cutting down amazon rainforests to have land so you can have mcdonalds hamburgers? Dont you have your own land and farms to raise cattle?
I'm not in on the commie green movement save the earth, its propaganda in Shifting wealth from western free society to China and 3rd world countries, who dont follow environmental standards.

Best thing President Trump has done, tariffs on China, Iran, North Korea
Cant reward totalitarian dictatorships with Americas wealth.