only id you have no rice to serve with itYou gonna hate me once you try my gumbo
only id you have no rice to serve with itYou gonna hate me once you try my gumbo
is that what Jesus said in REV?If only the righteous are granted eternal life, that means the wicked are not granted eternal life, right or wrong?
"...and ye know no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him." 1 John 3:15 KJV
So, how can the wicked suffer consciously in agony for all eternity if they aren't going to be alive for all eternity?
We can't argue "it's just the soul that is eternally tormented" because Genesis 2:7 KJV plainly says the Soul is the union of the Body and Breath of Life, and Jesus said the "whole body" will be cast into hellfire. So, if the person who is cast bodily into hellfire doesn't have eternal life, how can he have eternal suffering? The only conclusion that makes sense is that the wicked burn up out of existence aka The Second Death.
Yep...."and the smoke of their torment ascendeth up forever and ever".is that what Jesus said in REV?
Wrong! BubaYep...."and the smoke of their torment ascendeth up forever and ever".
Forever here refers to either duration "either undefined but not endless" (meaning we don't know how long it is but it's gonna end) because the word is applied to mortal impenitent sinners who are not granted the gift of eternal life....or it can be referring figuratively to "distance" as the smoke rises out of of sight, like when you drive through Texas and see the burn off from the oil wells rising up as far as the eye can see.
It certainly doesn't refer duration "undefined because endless" aka eternal torment, because if no murderer hath eternal life, how can he have eternal suffering?
“The soul that sinneth, it shall die.” What an amazing text which obliterates the idea that wicked souls are immortal.New age spiritualism teaches that the spirit lives for ever and Satan teaches that the soul that sinneth shall never die.
I choose to follow the Bible that states things plainly.
Ecc 9:5 For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten.
Ecc 9:6 Also their love, and their hatred, and their envy, is now perished; neither have they any more a portion for ever in any thing that is done under the sun.