Treasure In Earthen Vessels

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Noblemen

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2 Corinthians 4:10

10 Always bearing about in the body the dying of the Lord Jesus, that the life also of Jesus might be made manifest in our body.

Have you ever felt like you were dieing, physically or maybe spiritually or even mentally.
That's good, Christ in you is saying "good you are doing that for me."

I understand there are times when we need healing and have needs, but if you are alive then you will suffer these things.
Religion cannot tell you these truths, if they cannot get you fixed most every time, they are failing God. Goes against every faith message you have ever heard, getting enough faith of your own to do what needs to be done is just another law preaching message.
In grace you live by the faith of another, you have no faith of your own, you have learned to live Christ.

Those that know (revelation knowledge) they are crucified with Christ, have learned to live by the life of another. In that life is the faith of the Son of God, Gal. 2:20

20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.

Paul said "we have this treasure in earthen vessels." We have this treasure (Christ) so the power may be of God and not us, 2 Cor. 4:7

7 But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the excellency of the power may be of God, and not of us.

It cannot be of us, we have been crucified with Christ at Calvary. It comes through you, but it is Christ now as your only life. In this knowledge, in time, Christ will shallow up the old knowledge of you being an independent creature taught to you by the old nature, that is spiritual growth. Humanity has always been dependant on their nature, never an independent soul. The lie related to humanity is they are independent, when the fact is they have never acted out on any situation, good or bad, on their own, they have always been compelled by their nature.
Humanity knew something about sin because when it manifests itself, all can see it. When it remains dorment you cannot see sin.

Paul relates to believers there is a nature that compelled humanity to do what they did, even when they didn't want to do it, Romans 7:15-17

15 For that which I do I allow not: for what I would, that do I not; but what I hate, that do I.

16 If then I do that which I would not, I consent unto the law that it is good.

17 Now then it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.

Can you see the process that needs to take place to be able to see what went on before the new birth. Lack of understanding of what went on before the new birth and what happened at the cross will cause believers the most trouble in life.

Why would this be? Your Father wants you to understand Him and what He has done in you. He put Christ in you the moment you believed, to be your salvation. Just as truth is a person, the word is a person, and your salvation is a person. The saving grace for health is Christ in you, the saving grace for you mentality and physically, is Christ in you the hope of glory. Your Father does not stop until you know Christ as your life because that is just the beginning of life for you, so you must trust Him, He is not going to give you a stone. He is your Father and He loves you, He gave His Only begotten Son for you. He will reveal Himself in ways you have not thought possible.
 

Zmouth

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Just as truth is a person, the word is a person, and your salvation is a person.
So the Word that was made flesh isn't the Truth that was made Spirit? So how many persons are there, I sense I am watching the movie "I see three people." where the kid sees that they are one.

Your Father does not stop until you know Christ as your life because that is just the beginning of life for you, so you must trust Him, He is not going to give you a stone.
He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the hidden manna, and will give him a white stone, and in the stone a new name written, which no man knoweth saving he that receiveth it. Rev 2:17

He is your Father and He loves you, He gave His Only begotten Son for you.
So the Son wasn't the Father?
 

Noblemen

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Jan 14, 2018
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the Word that was made flesh isn't the Truth that was made Spirit? So how many persons are there, I sense I am watching the movie "I see three people." where the kid sees that they are one.
Lol, alrighty then I think you misunderstood

John 14:6
6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
 

Zmouth

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Nov 21, 2012
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Lol, alrighty then I think you misunderstood
Possibly :whistle:

John 14:6
6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
I'll call your John 14:6 and raise you one cubit

"No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: "John 6:44;
 

Noblemen

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Jan 14, 2018
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#5
Possibly :whistle:



I'll call your John 14:6 and raise you one cubit

"No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: "John 6:44;
Trying to show Christ as all these things. The way, truth, life, salvation, and the grace of God as a person. These things and many more are personified in Christ.
"I see alive people" lol
 
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2 Corinthians 4:10

10 Always bearing about in the body the dying of the Lord Jesus, that the life also of Jesus might be made manifest in our body.

Have you ever felt like you were dieing, physically or maybe spiritually or even mentally.
That's good, Christ in you is saying "good you are doing that for me."

I understand there are times when we need healing and have needs, but if you are alive then you will suffer these things.
Religion cannot tell you these truths, if they cannot get you fixed most every time, they are failing God. Goes against every faith message you have ever heard, getting enough faith of your own to do what needs to be done is just another law preaching message.
In grace you live by the faith of another, you have no faith of your own, you have learned to live Christ.

Those that know (revelation knowledge) they are crucified with Christ, have learned to live by the life of another. In that life is the faith of the Son of God, Gal. 2:20

20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.

Paul said "we have this treasure in earthen vessels." We have this treasure (Christ) so the power may be of God and not us, 2 Cor. 4:7

7 But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the excellency of the power may be of God, and not of us.

It cannot be of us, we have been crucified with Christ at Calvary. It comes through you, but it is Christ now as your only life. In this knowledge, in time, Christ will shallow up the old knowledge of you being an independent creature taught to you by the old nature, that is spiritual growth. Humanity has always been dependant on their nature, never an independent soul. The lie related to humanity is they are independent, when the fact is they have never acted out on any situation, good or bad, on their own, they have always been compelled by their nature.
Humanity knew something about sin because when it manifests itself, all can see it. When it remains dorment you cannot see sin.

Paul relates to believers there is a nature that compelled humanity to do what they did, even when they didn't want to do it, Romans 7:15-17

15 For that which I do I allow not: for what I would, that do I not; but what I hate, that do I.

16 If then I do that which I would not, I consent unto the law that it is good.

17 Now then it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.

Can you see the process that needs to take place to be able to see what went on before the new birth. Lack of understanding of what went on before the new birth and what happened at the cross will cause believers the most trouble in life.

Why would this be? Your Father wants you to understand Him and what He has done in you. He put Christ in you the moment you believed, to be your salvation. Just as truth is a person, the word is a person, and your salvation is a person. The saving grace for health is Christ in you, the saving grace for you mentality and physically, is Christ in you the hope of glory. Your Father does not stop until you know Christ as your life because that is just the beginning of life for you, so you must trust Him, He is not going to give you a stone. He is your Father and He loves you, He gave His Only begotten Son for you. He will reveal Himself in ways you have not thought possible.
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To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory" (Colossians 1:27).

I know of no greater treasure - the God of the universe living in me!

That that God is willing to use us as we purge ourselves of the dross and allow ourselves to be vessels of honor. And yet, it is still a body of dust that we offer up as living sacrifices . . . our reasonable service . . . to keep us humble.