understanding ancient schisms

[Widdekind]

According to the Gospel of John (10:30 = 17:11):

Ego kai Pater esmen eis
I and the Father are one

According to that Scripture, two separate things (Ego + Pater) are somehow joined in unity (eis), two separate natures (human + Divine) are united into a single being or entity (Jesus-Christ). According to Thayer's lexicon, eis = "one"

"in opposition to many…
in opposition to division into parts, and in ethical matters into dissensions…
a single [entity]…
one thing…
not at variance with, in accord with one's self…"

Greco-Roman Orthodoxy, as defined in the 5th century AD, (seemingly) correctly reflects that Scripture, perhaps compromising slightly, for sake of continuing communion, with what would become the Nestorian Church of the East:

1st Council of Ephesus (431 AD) = Christ Jesus is one being or entity (hypostasis), with two aspects (Divine + human)

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schism: CHURCH of EAST = Nestorians = Christ Jesus is two beings or entities (hypostases) = "Christ | Jesus"​

Council of Chalcedon (451 AD) = ibid. + those two aspects are each "complete" = Chalcedonian Dyo-physite-ism = "Christ-Jesus"

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schism: ORIENTAL = Eutychians (Jacobites) = Christ Jesus is one nature (physis) = mono-physite-ism, mia-physite-ism = "CHRISTJesus"

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Nestorians claimed that the Divine Spirit Presence (= Christ / Logos / Word / Son), resident within Jesus (= guy from Galilee), was somehow a (at least partially) separate, dis-united, dis-connected entity or being. Nestorians down-played the extreme Holy Saintliness of Jesus, who allowed God a deep degree of influence within his mind, so becoming the embodiment (fleshly physical tabernacle) of Deity on earth -- in the OT, God tabernacled in the physical temple; in the NT, God tabernacled in Jesus. More extreme in their heterodoxy, Nestorians were first to dis-unite & dis-connect with the rest of Christendom, relocating to refuge provided in the Parthian empire.

Jacobites claimed that the Divine Spirit Presence (= Christ / Logos / Word / Son), resident within Jesus (= guy from Galilee), over-whelmed and swamped-over his human mind, "as the ocean dissolves a drop of vinegar". Jacobites essentially asserted, that Jesus the human had (nearly) no mind of his own, that (nearly) all of his mind was somehow "from God in heaven" -- if God in heaven had stopped sending Holy Spirit to Jesus, then he would have collapsed into a comatose "zombie" state (for want of worthier words). Thereby, Jacobites down-played the willing submission, of Jesus, to Divine Spirit Presence; they re-cast willing submission to God, as compulsory mind-control from God over-whelming Jesus the human; they re-cast human obedience, as involuntary coercion. Less extreme in their heterodoxy, Jacobites were second to dis-unite & dis-connect with the rest of Christendom.

Christology = study of unity of God & Jesus in Christ = defining issue for Church unity

[HR][/HR]Islam identifies Nestorians & Jacobites as persecutors of the "true Religion":


Islamic view of Jesus' death - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


However, Islam probably does not identify G-R Orthodoxy as that "true Religion", at least not by circa 600 AD.
[HR][/HR]websites
Dyophysite - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Monophysitism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[1still_waters]

In other words, when Christians stop being persecuted, and rule an empire, and have time to do more than seek their safety from persecutors, they get to fighting over stuff like that?

 

[resurrection33]

Christians don't argue.

 

[Widdekind]

According to the HC documentary Ottoman Empire, the Muslim Turks assisted the Protestants, in schisming from the rest of Christendom. (400 years later, Protestant Germany allied with the Ottoman empire, during WWI.)

The Nestorians schismed, and allied with Persia (Parthia), in a seemingly similar way. One could construe implicit "Simony", with leadership positions, within the "Christian" Church, being influenced, if not outright bought, by outside money.

The seeming desire, to quibble over subtleties, could be construed, as consistent, with such claims ("why else would they want to quibble, if not for money?").