War Party beats drums for action in Syria

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zone

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War Party beats drums for action in Syria

June 5
BY GLENN GARVIN
The Miami Herald

Is a dangerous partisan divide really destroying the American government? It's pretty hard to discern that from the policy debate on Syria, where our two-party system divides like this: Sen. Rand Paul of Kentucky on one side, and everybody else on the other.

Paul argues that there are no clear good guys in Syria; that the recent U.S. track record in the Middle East - from Afghanistan to Iraq to Libya - suggests that nobody in the American government has a credible understanding of the region's political nuances; and that any U.S. intervention is likely to create more problems than it will solve.

On the other side of the argument are such supposed ideological opposites as Sens. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., Marco Rubio, R-Fla., Robert Menendez, D-N.J., Bob Casey, D-Pa., and John McCain, R-Ariz, all of whom want the United States to sweep into Syria with guns blazing. McCain, who has never encountered a foreign-policy problem that couldn't, in his opinion, be solved by dropping a bomb on it, even labeled Paul a "wacko bird" for his dangerous unbelligerence.

The relentless yammering of the Syria hawks is pushing President Obama steadily toward another Middle Eastern military intervention. The administration originally offered rhetorical sympathy, but not much more, to the rebels trying to oust Bashar Assad. Then it decided to permit other countries to ship U.S. arms to the (supposedly) nonradical factions of the rebels. Now we're giving guns directly to those rebels.

The next step down this slippery slope, which McCain and others are urging (and for which the Pentagon is preparing plans), is establishing a no-fly zone over Syria to negate the power of Assad's air force against the rebels. This sounds innocuous, but it isn't.

Read more here: Glenn Garvin: War Party beats drums for action in Syria - KansasCity.com

the usual suspects.

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well, considering they're now throwing TURKEY under the bus as expected (though there's a slight possibility the 'uprisings' in Turkey could be Iran and/or Russia making a move), this is going to get NASTY(er).

but, Israel is going to have that region if it's the last thing she does.
no cost is too high (for Americans to pay).

get ready....if american citizens resist ANOTHER fake humanitarian intervention because the FAKE Al Quaeda agents success - 60,000+ dead - isn't turning the tide against Assad, something will happen to convince you (that expanding the war on terror is a must-do)






Israel suspected over Iran nuclear programme inquiry leaks

Western officials believe Israel may have leaked information from IAEA investigation in bid to raise global pressure on Tehran

Monday 10 December 2012

Israel is suspected of carrying out a series of leaks implicating Iran in nuclear weapons experiments in an attempt to raise international pressure on Tehran and halt its programme.

Western diplomats believe the leaks may have backfired, compromising a UN-sanctioned investigation into Iran's past nuclear activities and current aspirations.

The latest leak, published by the Associated Press (AP), purported to be an Iranian diagram showing the physics of a nuclear blast, but scientists quickly pointed out an elementary mistake that cast doubt on its significance and authenticity. An article in the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists declared: "This diagram does nothing more than indicate either slipshod analysis or an amateurish hoax."

Israel suspected over Iran nuclear programme inquiry leaks | World news | The Guardian < click


An article in the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists declared: "This diagram does nothing more than indicate either slipshod analysis or an amateurish hoax."

tsk:rolleyes:

silly Atomic Scientist conspiracy theorists.

....

anyways.
time to take a look at what's going down in Turkey.

oh, Brzezinski, why are you so sneaky?)


Tuesday 4 June 2013

"What started last week as a small protest against Erdogan's plans to demolish the park has morphed into something much bigger: a non-political mass movement, driven by popular outrage at brutal police tactics. Erdogan has abrasively dismissed his opponents as looters, marauders and bums. On Tuesday his deputy Bulent Arinc struck a more emollient tone, apologising for earlier police violence. He also offered to meet their leaders.

But in reality, the thousands who gathered spontaneously again in Istanbul's Taksim Square, next to the park, do not have an ideology or party political identity. They are non-led. What they share is a keen sense of grievance against Erdogan personally. They accuse him of, among other things, bad ruling habits and developing increasingly pharaoh-like tendencies."

Fear and loathing grips Turkey as anti-Erdogan protests gather pace | World news | guardian.co.uk < click




- a non-political mass movement
- driven by popular outrage
- thousands who gathered spontaneously
- do not have an ideology or party political identity
- They are non-led





guys...please.
get Soros on the line. this is beyond ludicrous.
we need something new. QUICK!
 

zone

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SYRIA - ISRAEL IS LOSING THE BATTLE

SYRIA - ISRAEL IS LOSING THE BATTLE

FRIDAY, JUNE 7, 2013 AT 4:12PM GILAD ATZMON


By Gilad Atzmon


< see GRAPHIC >


In the last week we have been following British and French’s desperate attempts to push for a military intervention in Syria. It is far from being a secret that both British and French government are dominated by the Jewish Lobby. In Britain it is the ultra Zionist CFI (Conservative Friends of Israel) - apparently 80% of Britain’s conservative MPs are members of the pro Israeli Lobby. In France the situation is even more devastating, the entire political system is hijacked by the forceful CRIF.

But in case anyone fails to grasp why the Jewish Lobby is pushing for an immediate intervention, Debka, an Israeli news outlet provides the answer. Seemingly, the Syrian army is winning on all fronts. Israel’s military and geo-political calculations are proved to be wrong.

According to Debka, “the battle for Damascus is over”. The Syrian army had virtually “regained control of the city in an epic victory”. The rebels, largely mercenaries, have lost the battle they “can’t do much more than fire sporadically. They can no longer launch raids, or pose threats to the city centre, the airport or the big Syrian air base nearby.
The Russian and Iranian transports constantly bringing replenishments for keeping the Syrian army fighting can again land at Damascus airport after months of rebel siege.”

But it isn’t just the capital. Debka reports that “Hezbollah and Syrian units have tightened their siege on the rebels holding out in the northern sector of al Qusayr; other (Syrian army) units have completed their takeover of the countryside around the town of Hama; and a third combined Syrian-Hizballah force has taken up positions around Aleppo.”

Debka maintains that senior IDF officers criticized the Israeli defense minister (Moshe Ya'alon) who “mislead” the Knesset a few days ago estimating that “Bashar Assad controlled only 40% of Syrian territory.” Debka suggests that Israeli defense Minister drawn on a “flawed intelligence assessment and were concerned that the armed forces were acting on the basis of inaccurate intelligence.” Debka stresses, “erroneous assessments… must lead to faulty decision-making.”

Debka is clearly brave enough to admit that Israeli military miscalculations may have lead to disastrous consequences. It reports, “the massive Israeli bombardment of Iranian weapons stored near Damascus for Hezbollah, turned out a month later to have done more harm than good. It gave Bashar Assad a boost instead of weakening his resolve.”

Debka is obviously correct. It doesn’t take a genius to predict that an Israeli attack on an Arab land cannot be accepted by the Arab masses, not even by Assad’s bitterest Arab opponents.

Debka maintains that the “intelligence focus on military movements in Syria especially around Damascus to ascertain that advanced missiles and chemical weapons don’t reach Hezbollah laid to a failure of in detecting major movement by Hezbollah militia units towards the Syrian-Israeli border.”

Israel is now facing a new reality. It is facing Hezbollah reinforcements streaming in from Lebanon towards the Golan heights and its border with Syria.

Israel, Debka concludes, will soon find itself “face to face for the first time with Hezbollah units equipped with heavy arms and missiles on the move along the Syrian-Israeli border and manning positions opposite Israel’s Golan outposts and villages.”

Debka is correct to suggest that instead of “growing weaker, Iran’s Lebanese proxy is poised to open another warfront and force the IDF to adapt to a new military challenge from the Syrian Golan.”

Rather than The Gurdian or the Le Monde, it is actually the Israeli Debka that helps us to grasp why Britain and France are so desperate to intervene. Once again, it is a Zionist war which they are so eager to fight.

Sadly enough, it isn’t The Guardian or The New York Times that is there to reveal the latest development in Syria and expose Israeli lethal miscalculations. It is actually a ‘Zionist’ Israeli patriotic outlet that is providing the good. I actually believe that this form of harsh self-criticism that is embedded in Israeli culture, is the means that sustains Israeli regional hegemony, at least monetarily. This ability to critically examine and disapprove your own leadership is something I fail to encounter in Western media. Seemingly, the media in Israel is far more tolerant toward criticism than the Zionist dominated Media in the West.

Gilad Atzmon - Writings - Syria - Israel Is Losing the
 

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McCain, who has never encountered a foreign-policy problem that couldn't, in his opinion, be solved by dropping a bomb on it,
. I lol'd. :D
 

zone

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Re: SYRIA - ISRAEL IS LOSING THE BATTLE

SYRIA - ISRAEL IS LOSING THE BATTLE

FRIDAY, JUNE 7, 2013 AT 4:12PM GILAD ATZMON
By Gilad Atzmon

.....But it isn’t just the capital. Debka reports that “Hezbollah and Syrian units have tightened their siege on the rebels holding out in the northern sector of al Qusayr; other (Syrian army) units have completed their takeover of the countryside around the town of Hama; and a third combined Syrian-Hizballah force has taken up positions around Aleppo.”
Israel is now facing a new reality. It is facing Hezbollah reinforcements streaming in from Lebanon towards the Golan heights and its border with Syria.

....Israel, Debka concludes, will soon find itself “face to face for the first time with Hezbollah units equipped with heavy arms and missiles on the move along the Syrian-Israeli border and manning positions opposite Israel’s Golan outposts and villages.”
IRAN IS ACTIVELY INVOLVED.

done deal.

~ Russia is the wild-card - anyone have any thoughts on this?
at one time i hoped there was some happy ending, russia would be the trick pony.
but is russia really the mothership? is Russia allied with Israel?


[if this is true, it's a far worse scenario than i had ever imagined]

CURRENTLY

US committed to broader war - Iran active.
conscription a possibility.
economic collapse - planned.
middle class to be extinguished.
civil uprisings and anarchy - planned.
martial law - in effect since 9-11.

these guys mean what they say.
they will not stand down.
no price is too high.

all i can think of is refuse to approve of any of it - speak out when possible - for Jesus' Name's Sake.
and pray, like Daniel did.
 

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Interview 678 – Michel Chossudovsky on the End of the Syrian Ground War
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