What do you think on the mind-control???

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Do you think that the mind-control technique(s) is/are possible? Would God accept that? What's your opinion about it? Is it possible that some people are 100% controlled so they cannot do any action or say a word that is not in that program? What happens to them after they die, will they be judged for something they did unconsciously? Wouldn't be normal for them to be saved by God before they died, especially if they have been victims of the program and have not given any agreement, moreover, some appear to have been in the womb programmed to do something certain in life? Could satan alone do all these things? Because, saying that some people with no "external" help could do it it is impossible, no matter how evolved the science would be. I would love to see also a pastor's opinion on this issue. God bless you all.
 
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Do you think that the mind-control technique(s) is/are possible? Would God accept that? What's your opinion about it? Is it possible that some people are 100% controlled so they cannot do any action or say a word that is not in that program? What happens to them after they die, will they be judged for something they did unconsciously? Wouldn't be normal for them to be saved by God before they died, especially if they have been victims of the program and have not given any agreement, moreover, some appear to have been in the womb programmed to do something certain in life? Could satan alone do all these things? Because, saying that some people with no "external" help could do it it is impossible, no matter how evolved the science would be. I would love to see also a pastor's opinion on this issue. God bless you all.
This verse is saying that we shouldn't wait til it's too late. You'll never know when the time will be.

Matthew 25:10“But while they were on their way to buy the oil, the bridegroom arrived. The virgins who were ready went in with him to the wedding banquet. And the door was shut.

We must be tested in order for us to know what side of God that we are going to stand.

Matthew 25:34“Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world.


Luke 8:13Those on the rocky ground are the ones who receive the word with joy when they hear it, but they have no root. They believe for a while, but in the time of testing they fall away.
 
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Ads or bad news influenced certain control on minds. Mind-control is a program or help to re-program thoughts or feelings.

In Venezuela I witness mind-control techniques each time one thing happens and the gov or some else appears and interprete what I see or what others might be thinking/feeling...
 

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Do you think that the mind-control technique(s) is/are possible? Would God accept that? What's your opinion about it? Is it possible that some people are 100% controlled so they cannot do any action or say a word that is not in that program? What happens to them after they die, will they be judged for something they did unconsciously? Wouldn't be normal for them to be saved by God before they died, especially if they have been victims of the program and have not given any agreement, moreover, some appear to have been in the womb programmed to do something certain in life? Could satan alone do all these things? Because, saying that some people with no "external" help could do it it is impossible, no matter how evolved the science would be. I would love to see also a pastor's opinion on this issue. God bless you all.
I believe mind control is possible.

I'm controlling my mind right now.

: )
 
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That word "mind control" has as many different meanings as there are different people. Almost no one understands it. Knowing about hypnotism is part of it. No one can be hypnotized to do anything against their deep inner convictions.

I think it is extremely important that all parents know about the subconscious mind that controls a lot of our behavior. When we are so completely absorbed in anything we loose ourselves in it, like in an absorbing TV story, we are programming that mind. So when babies are watching murder TV, it is serious. The less the parents program their children in God's ways, the more serious it is. I was at a restaurant where on one side of the room was a large family who wouldn't have TV in the house, on the other side was a family where TV, I knew, was used as a baby sitter. The difference was glaring.

Our bodies work on automatic, but this mind also affects it, as you can see if something frightens you badly. Everyone knows what it means when someone says "my heart raced".

This mind is very powerful. It is illegal to flash pictures at us so fast only our subconscious mind is aware of them at movies. When a picture of a tempting candy bar was flashed, many went out to buy one without realizing why.

I had to learn about the subconscious mind. I had been programmed badly as a child, when I became aware of it my thoughts still reflected it in sneaky ways. My deciding that wasn't right didn't seem to work. I studied the subconscious mind to find out how to stop.


This is why I think we should make our walk with God part of our every minute, part of everything we do. It is our protection.
 
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What type of mind control are you talking about?
 
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Putting someones mind into a state where they accept your decisions and communicated opinions of reality moreso than their own perception (for all contexts) is something requiring many years of child seclusion, abuse and control over their environment. Stage hypnotists are entertainers, hypnosis is more like psychotherapy with a personal agenda other than your own; then there's propaganda, persuasion, culture mgt and masterminding.
 

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The book 1984 thesis was 'he who controls language (of a society) controls thought'. It is a relevant read even today as our language is being dumbed down thru images etc.
 
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We are inundated with worldly messages, from television, books, advertising, peers, social media, ect, and repetition can ingrain these ideas. At night I put on CD's of the Bible to counteract this ungodliness. While some might call it programming or mind control I don't it's renewing my mind.

Romans 12:2 And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.
 
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The book 1984 thesis was 'he who controls language (of a society) controls thought'. It is a relevant read even today as our language is being dumbed down thru images etc.
Finally some who will understand Big Brother references. It was required reading when I went to school. The kids now don't realize the freedoms we are losing.
 
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Do you think that the mind-control technique(s) is/are possible? Would God accept that? What's your opinion about it? Is it possible that some people are 100% controlled so they cannot do any action or say a word that is not in that program? What happens to them after they die, will they be judged for something they did unconsciously? Wouldn't be normal for them to be saved by God before they died, especially if they have been victims of the program and have not given any agreement, moreover, some appear to have been in the womb programmed to do something certain in life? Could satan alone do all these things? Because, saying that some people with no "external" help could do it it is impossible, no matter how evolved the science would be. I would love to see also a pastor's opinion on this issue. God bless you all.
Mind Control By Harry V. Martin and David Caul

Patent US5159703 - Silent subliminal presentation system - Google Patents
Patent US6017302 - Subliminal acoustic manipulation of nervous systems - Google Patents
 
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you can probably do more damage to yourself with the kinds of foods you eat. Or damage your spiritual character with what you allow yourself to listen to. Better to listen to God's word then you can learn to ignore the junk.

No one can control your mind, but our minds can be deceived if your not familiar with that God says in His Word. We are responsible for what we do and our actions . If we neglect God's words, then we have no one to blame but ourselves for the outcome that happens as the result.
 
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Subliminal messages, coca cola.
I think that is self explanatory...
 
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Do you think that the mind-control technique(s) is/are possible? Would God accept that? What's your opinion about it? Is it possible that some people are 100% controlled so they cannot do any action or say a word that is not in that program? What happens to them after they die, will they be judged for something they did unconsciously? Wouldn't be normal for them to be saved by God before they died, especially if they have been victims of the program and have not given any agreement, moreover, some appear to have been in the womb programmed to do something certain in life? Could satan alone do all these things? Because, saying that some people with no "external" help could do it it is impossible, no matter how evolved the science would be. I would love to see also a pastor's opinion on this issue. God bless you all.
Deuteronomy 27:18 "Cursed be he that maketh the blind to wander out of the way. And all the people shall say, Amen."

Isaiah 43:8 "Bring forth the blind people that have eyes, and the deaf that have ears.
9 Let all the nations be gathered together, and let the people be assembled: who among them can declare this, and shew us former things? let them bring forth their witnesses, that they may be justified: or let them hear, and say, It is truth.
10 Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.

Psalms 120:7 "I am for peace: but when I speak, they are for war."

Ezekiel 3:27 "But when I speak with thee, I will open thy mouth, and thou shalt say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; He that heareth, let him hear; and he that forbeareth, let him forbear: for they are a rebellious house."

Ezekiel 18:20 The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.
21 But if the wicked will turn from all his sins that he hath committed, and keep all my statutes, and do that which is lawful and right, he shall surely live, he shall not die.
22 All his transgressions that he hath committed, they shall not be mentioned unto him: in his righteousness that he hath done he shall live.
23 Have I any pleasure at all that the wicked should die? saith the Lord GOD: and not that he should return from his ways, and live?
24 But when the righteous turneth away from his righteousness, and committeth iniquity, and doeth according to all the abominations that the wicked man doeth, shall he live? All his righteousness that he hath done shall not be mentioned: in his trespass that he hath trespassed, and in his sin that he hath sinned, in them shall he die.
25 Yet ye say, The way of the Lord is not equal. Hear now, O house of Israel; Is not my way equal? are not your ways unequal?
26 When a righteous man turneth away from his righteousness, and committeth iniquity, and dieth in them; for his iniquity that he hath done shall he die.
27 Again, when the wicked man turneth away from his wickedness that he hath committed, and doeth that which is lawful and right, he shall save his soul alive.
28 Because he considereth, and turneth away from all his transgressions that he hath committed, he shall surely live, he shall not die.
29 Yet saith the house of Israel, The way of the Lord is not equal. O house of Israel, are not my ways equal? are not your ways unequal?
30 Therefore I will judge you, O house of Israel, every one according to his ways, saith the Lord GOD. Repent, and turn yourselves from all your transgressions; so iniquity shall not be your ruin.
 
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I was referring to all types. I read Fritz Springmeier's "The Illuminati formula to create a mind control slave" and met some people with different personalities and it really fit with what I saw. So I think Mr. Springmeier is not totally wrong, maybe not at all. It's funny how members try to explain me what mind control is, trust me I know theory very well, like I said I even saw cases that fit with that theory, but MY BIG QUESTION is would God allow that to happen? And why? What would be the limit if there is one? For me is impossible to understand how can someone live this life totally controlled and when he passes away, what are the actions/sins/decisions/etc that can be judged for? It's ridiculous...
 
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Do you think that the mind-control technique(s) is/are possible? Would God accept that? What's your opinion about it? Is it possible that some people are 100% controlled so they cannot do any action or say a word that is not in that program? What happens to them after they die, will they be judged for something they did unconsciously? Wouldn't be normal for them to be saved by God before they died, especially if they have been victims of the program and have not given any agreement, moreover, some appear to have been in the womb programmed to do something certain in life? Could satan alone do all these things? Because, saying that some people with no "external" help could do it it is impossible, no matter how evolved the science would be. I would love to see also a pastor's opinion on this issue. God bless you all.
Awareness is the most important factor. God judges the heart and if your heart isn't aware of it's action, then God doesn't see it. God want to see if you love your life of sin, but if some type of sorcery that causes you to do something sinful but if the actions of sin didn't come from your heart, then you'll be not judge on that action because you were consider to be a slave, and the slave's master will be the one being judge for that sinful action.
 
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We are inundated with worldly messages, from television, books, advertising, peers, social media, ect, and repetition can ingrain these ideas. At night I put on CD's of the Bible to counteract this ungodliness. While some might call it programming or mind control I don't it's renewing my mind.

Romans 12:2 And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.
Me too, GOD's WORD is so very powerful and life-giving. Helps me too to counteract the ungodliness. Stay Strong and Sound in Lord Jesus Christ.
 

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i believe it is possible,,,,i herd of a woman,,she went to a psychiatrist who treated her for depression.,,,after a month the dr. put her under hypnosis and it came out that when she was young she was molested by her father. now the woman had no memories of the molestation and the dr. explained how the human mind works is that certain things that are so horrific the human mind blocks out.

there were 4 children,,all were 2 tears apart a boy,a girl(her),a boy,and a girl,,,,and the mother,,,,the mother,the the two sons,and the youngest daughter came to the preacher for help in the matter,,,,,the mother/wife has no knowledge of the crime other than that stated by the dr's diagnosis,,,the two boys never had a clue this was going on,,,,nor did the youngest daughter.

the husband died from cancer years before the oldest daughter went the the dr.,,,the wife had no idea how this was possible because her husband had testicular cancer and could not be with a woman after the youngest daughter was born. none of the other siblings had knowledge of this molestation tho they grew up in the same house,,,,and the woman who was molested as a girl had no memory of it until it was pulled out of her regressed thoughts under hypnosis,,,,a doctor has a license to testify in court,,,and to control minds,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,"yet a preacher is only allowed to heal",,,,,
[h=1]Against Heresies (Book I, Chapter 13)[/h] The deceitful arts and nefarious practices of Marcus. 1. But there is another among these heretics, Marcus by name, who boasts himself as having improved upon his master. He is a perfect adept in magical impostures, and by this means drawing away a great number of men, and not a few women, he has induced them to join themselves to him, as to one who is possessed of the greatest knowledge and perfection, and who has received the highest power from the invisible and ineffable regions above. Thus it appears as if he really were the precursor of Antichrist. For, joining the buffooneries of Anaxilaus to the craftiness of the magi, as they are called, he is regarded by his senseless and cracked-brain followers as working miracles by these means.
2. Pretending to consecrate cups mixed with wine, and protracting to great length the word of invocation, he contrives to give them a purple and reddish colour, so that Charis, who is one of those that are superior to all things, should be thought to drop her own blood into that cup through means of his invocation, and that thus those who are present should be led to rejoice to taste of that cup, in order that, by so doing, the Charis, who is set forth by this magician, may also flow into them. Again, handing mixed cups to the women, he bids them consecrate these in his presence. When this has been done, he himself produces another cup of much larger size than that which the deluded woman has consecrated, and pouring from the smaller one consecrated by the woman into that which has been brought forward by himself, he at the same time pronounces these words: May that Charis who is before all things, and who transcends all knowledge and speech, fill your inner man, and multiply in you her own knowledge, by sowing the grain of mustard seed in you as in good soil. Repeating certain other like words, and thus goading on the wretched woman [to madness], he then appears a worker of wonders when the large cup is seen to have been filled out of the small one, so as even to overflow by what has been obtained from it. By accomplishing several other similar things, he has completely deceived many, and drawn them away after him.
3. It appears probable enough that this man possesses a demon as his familiar spirit, by means of whom he seems able to prophesy, and also enables as many as he counts worthy to be partakers of his Charis themselves to prophesy. He devotes himself especially to women, and those such as are well-bred, and elegantly attired, and of great wealth, whom he frequently seeks to draw after him, by addressing them in such seductive words as these: I am eager to make you a partaker of my Charis, since the Father of all does continually behold your angel before His face. Now the place of your angel is among us: it behooves us to become one. Receive first from me and by me [the gift of] Charis. Adorn yourself as a bride who is expecting her bridegroom, that you may be what I am, and I what you are. Establish the germ of light in your nuptial chamber. Receive from me a spouse, and become receptive of him, while you are received by him. Behold Charis has descended upon you; open your mouth and prophesy. On the woman replying, I have never at any time prophesied, nor do I know how to prophesy; then engaging, for the second time, in certain invocations, so as to astound his deluded victim, he says to her, Open your mouth, speak whatsoever occurs to you, and you shall prophesy. She then, vainly puffed up and elated by these words, and greatly excited in soul by the expectation that it is herself who is to prophesy, her heart beating violently [from emotion], reaches the requisite pitch of audacity, and idly as well as impudently utters some nonsense as it happens to occur to her, such as might be expected from one heated by an empty spirit. (Referring to this, one superior to me has observed, that the soul is both audacious and impudent when heated with empty air.) Henceforth she reckons herself a prophetess, and expresses her thanks to Marcus for having imparted to her of his own Charis. She then makes the effort to reward him, not only by the gift of her possessions (in which way he has collected a very large fortune), but also by yielding up to him her person, desiring in every way to be united to him, that she may become altogether one with him.
4. But already some of the most faithful women, possessed of the fear of God, and not being deceived (whom, nevertheless, he did his best to seduce like the rest by bidding them prophesy), abhorring and execrating him, have withdrawn from such a vile company of revellers. This they have done, as being well aware that the gift of prophecy is not conferred on men by Marcus, the magician, but that only those to whom God sends His grace from above possess the divinely-bestowed power of prophesying; and then they speak where and when God pleases, and not when Marcus orders them to do so. For that which commands is greater and of higher authority than that which is commanded, inasmuch as the former rules, while the latter is in a state of subjection. If, then, Marcus, or any one else, does command—as these are accustomed continually at their feasts to play at drawing lots, and [in accordance with the lot] to command one another to prophesy, giving forth as oracles what is in harmony with their own desires—it will follow that he who commands is greater and of higher authority than the prophetic spirit, though he is but a man, which is impossible. But such spirits as are commanded by these men, and speak when they desire it, are earthly and weak, audacious and impudent, sent forth by Satan for the seduction and perdition of those who do not hold fast that well-compacted faith which they received at first through the Church.
5. Moreover, that this Marcus compounds philters and love-potions, in order to insult the persons of some of these women, if not of all, those of them who have returned to the Church of God— a thing which frequently occurs— have acknowledged, confessing, too, that they have been defiled by him, and that they were filled with a burning passion towards him. A sad example of this occurred in the case of a certain Asiatic, one of our deacons, who had received him (Marcus) into his house. His wife, a woman of remarkable beauty, fell a victim both in mind and body to this magician, and, for a long time, travelled about with him. At last, when, with no small difficulty, the brethren had converted her, she spent her whole time in the exercise of public confession, weeping over and lamenting the defilement which she had received from this magician.
6. Some of his disciples, too, addicting themselves to the same practices, have deceived many silly women, and defiled them. They proclaim themselves as being perfect, so that no one can be compared to them with respect to the immensity of their knowledge, nor even were you to mention Paul or Peter, or any other of the apostles. They assert that they themselves know more than all others, and that they alone have imbibed the greatness of the knowledge of that power which is unspeakable. They also maintain that they have attained to a height above all power, and that therefore they are free in every respect to act as they please, having no one to fear in anything. For they affirm, that because of the Redemption it has come to pass that they can neither be apprehended, nor even seen by the judge. But even if he should happen to lay hold upon them, then they might simply repeat these words, while standing in his presence along with the Redemption: O you, who sits beside God, and the mystical, eternal Sige, you through whom the angels (mightiness), who continually behold the face of the Father, having you as their guide and introducer, do derive their forms from above, which she in the greatness of her daring inspiring with mind on account of the goodness of the Propator, produced us as their images, having her mind then intent upon the things above, as in a dream—behold, the judge is at hand, and the crier orders me to make my defence. But do you, as being acquainted with the affairs of both, present the cause of both of us to the judge, inasmuch as it is in reality but one cause. Now, as soon as the Mother hears these words, she puts the Homeric helmet of Pluto upon them, so that they may invisibly escape the judge. And then she immediately catches them up, conducts them into the bridal chamber, and hands them over to their consorts.
7. Such are the words and deeds by which, in our own district of the Rhone, they have deluded many women, who have their consciences seared as with a hot iron. 2 Timothy 3:6 Some of them, indeed, make a public confession of their sins; but others of them are ashamed to do this, and in a tacit kind of way, despairing of [attaining to] the life of God, have, some of them, apostatized altogether; while others hesitate between the two courses, and incur that which is implied in the proverb, neither without nor within; possessing this as the fruit from the seed of the children of knowledge.

now here is a bit of mind control from the first an second century a.d.,,,,,,,,,read the others and you will understand. that is if Merlin were to sit you all at the round table and set food before you and drink,,,,"with a pinch of mushroom,,,and shavings of mandrake",,,,,,you will all see the vision he will show you,,,,,,,,

and if a man is small and "Dracula",,,sneaks into his wife's room at night and bites her on the neck,,,,the town will help him seek out the beast. the monster is far to powerful for the average man to fight,,,the town is needed. and if he keeps coming back and biting his wife's neck,,,she will be his,and leave with him in the night and go to his cave,,,,,,,,,,

mind control is just like that,,,,,,,,,it is never called "reality check",,,,,which it actually is,,,,last i heard there were some witches down in Salem,,,,some Christian's caught them,,,so they went down there and put them on trial and burned them Christians at the stake,,,,,,,,
 
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Our news media tell us who's right and wrong, commercials tell us what to buy, our government propagates what we should think against who, and the majority of the US population thinks we can come out of this deep hole of debt just because our leaders who put us in that hole said so. So, yes, I believe in mind control. When the government takes advantage of its citizens without them realizing it, that's mind control.
 
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Our government has so much control that when its citizens demand answers for problems and someone gives them good solid answers, all the government has to do is cry "conspiracy theorist", and a person is automatically labeled by the masses as a nutcase. Yeah............ I believe in mind control. ;)