What is a sin? 2 Samuel 24:10

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Stargazing_Pilgrim

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2 Samuel 24:10 If you say it was a lack of trust in God, and that was why the census was a sin, I really don't see the big problem in taking thre census. Why wouldn't it be just as much a lack of trust and a sin to take a census today?
 
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CanadaNZ

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2 Samuel 24:10 If you say it was a lack of trust in God, and that was why the census was a sin, I really don't see the big problem in taking thre census. Why wouldn't it be just as much a lack of trust and a sin to take a census today?
If you could look at sin under a microscope, you'd discover that at its cell level, sin is the rejection of God in our hearts. It is the denial of His character, authority, and control over our lives. For example:

Lying is not wrong just because it ruins our trust but because God is truth and never lies. It is the betrayal of who He is. Murder not only stops a beating heart but it is contrary to the One who is life and love and made us in His image.
 
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Laodicea

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1 John 3:4 Sin is transgression of the Law
 
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AnandaHya

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2 Samuel 24:10 If you say it was a lack of trust in God, and that was why the census was a sin, I really don't see the big problem in taking thre census. Why wouldn't it be just as much a lack of trust and a sin to take a census today?
yeah I don't get these verse either. thanks for reminding me. I'll ask the next pastor I come across ;)

2 Samuel 24:10
New King James Version (NKJV)

10 And David’s heart condemned him after he had numbered the people. So David said to the Lord, “I have sinned greatly in what I have done; but now, I pray, O Lord, take away the iniquity of Your servant, for I have done very foolishly.”
 
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yeah I don't get these verse either. thanks for reminding me. I'll ask the next pastor I come across ;)

2 Samuel 24:10
New King James Version (NKJV)

10 And David’s heart condemned him after he had numbered the people. So David said to the Lord, “I have sinned greatly in what I have done; but now, I pray, O Lord, take away the iniquity of Your servant, for I have done very foolishly.”
AnandaHya I believe the answer is within the following verses.

1Ch 21:1 And Satan stood up against Israel, and provoked David to number Israel.
1Ch 21:2 And David said to Joab and to the rulers of the people, Go, number Israel from Beer-sheba even to Dan; and bring the number of them to me, that I may know it.
1Ch 21:3 And Joab answered, The LORD make his people a hundred times so many more as they be: but, my lord the king, are they not all my lord's servants? why then doth my lord require this thing? why will he be a cause of trespass to Israel?
1Ch 21:4 Nevertheless the king's word prevailed against Joab. Wherefore Joab departed, and went throughout all Israel, and came to Jerusalem.
1Ch 21:5 And Joab gave the sum of the number of the people unto David. And all they of Israel were a thousand thousand and a hundred thousand men that drew sword: and Judah was four hundred threescore and ten thousand men that drew sword.
1Ch 21:6 But Levi and Benjamin counted he not among them: for the king's word was abominable to Joab.
1Ch 21:7
And God was displeased with this thing; therefore he smote Israel.
1Ch 21:8 And David said unto God, I have sinned greatly, because I have done this thing: but now, I beseech thee, do away the iniquity of thy servant; for I have done very foolishly.
1Ch 21:9 And the LORD spoke unto Gad, David's seer, saying,
1Ch 21:10 Go and tell David, saying, Thus saith the LORD, I offer thee three things: choose thee one of them, that I may do it unto thee.
1Ch 21:11 So Gad came to David, and said unto him, Thus saith the LORD, Choose thee
1Ch 21:12 Either three years' famine; or three months to be destroyed before thy foes, while that the sword of thine enemies overtaketh thee; or else three days the sword of the LORD, even the pestilence, in the land, and the angel of the LORD destroying throughout all the coasts of Israel. Now therefore advise thyself what word I shall bring again to him that sent me.
1Ch 21:13 And David said unto Gad, I am in a great strait: let me fall now into the hand of the LORD; for very great are his mercies: but let me not fall into the hand of man.
1Ch 21:14 So the LORD sent pestilence upon Israel: and there fell of Israel seventy thousand men.
1Ch 21:15 And God sent an angel unto Jerusalem to destroy it: and as he was destroying, the LORD beheld, and he repented him of the evil, and said to the angel that destroyed, It is enough, stay now thine hand. And the angel of the LORD stood by the threshingfloor of Ornan the Jebusite.
1Ch 21:16 And David lifted up his eyes, and saw the angel of the LORD stand between the earth and the heaven, having a drawn sword in his hand stretched out over Jerusalem. Then David and the elders of Israel, who were clothed in sackcloth, fell upon their faces.
1Ch 21:17 And David said unto God, Is it not I that commanded the people to be numbered? even I it is that have sinned and done evil indeed; but as for these sheep, what have they done? let thine hand, I pray thee, O LORD my God, be on me, and on my father's house; but not on thy people, that they should be plagued.

Seeing that Satan provoked David, does this not mean that he was disobedient to God? And looking at verse 7, God was displeased with this thing.

In Christ, 1Christianwarrior316
 

shemaiah

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Sin is any act of disobedience to God.
 
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Israel

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2 Samuel 24:1

1And again the anger of the LORD was kindled against Israel, and he moved David against them to say, Go, number Israel and Judah.

All power comes from the LORD. He allowed Satan to deceive David by the same means in which he attacked Job.
 
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luciddream1982

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God promised Abraham that his seed would be as the sands of the sea and the stars of heaven. In other words, he seed would be innumerable. So the fact that David wanted to count everyone was insulting to the promise.
 
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nath1234

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God promised Abraham that his seed would be as the sands of the sea and the stars of heaven. In other words, he seed would be innumerable. So the fact that David wanted to count everyone was insulting to the promise.

mm yes good point

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