A
-
Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.
If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!
To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.
G
Guest
Guest
What's wrong with it is it's a curse;
[SUP]10 [/SUP]For all who rely on the works of the law are under a curse, as it is written: “Cursed is everyone who does not continue to do everything written in the Book of the Law.”[SUP][e][/SUP] [SUP]11 [/SUP]Clearly no one who relies on the law is justified before God, because “the righteous will live by faith.”[SUP][f][/SUP] [SUP]12 [/SUP]The law is not based on faith; on the contrary, it says, “The person who does these things will live by them.”[SUP][g][/SUP] [SUP]13 [/SUP]Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us, for it is written: “Cursed is everyone who is hung on a pole.”[SUP][h][/SUP]
[SUP]10 [/SUP]For all who rely on the works of the law are under a curse, as it is written: “Cursed is everyone who does not continue to do everything written in the Book of the Law.”[SUP][e][/SUP] [SUP]11 [/SUP]Clearly no one who relies on the law is justified before God, because “the righteous will live by faith.”[SUP][f][/SUP] [SUP]12 [/SUP]The law is not based on faith; on the contrary, it says, “The person who does these things will live by them.”[SUP][g][/SUP] [SUP]13 [/SUP]Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us, for it is written: “Cursed is everyone who is hung on a pole.”[SUP][h][/SUP]
Those same laws that were given by Moses are now written on the hearts of the believers with the dwelling of the Holy Spirit. That's what make you do what is right, the old law now are just guidlines to perfect the goodness and the love of God in your heart. the unbeliever is cursed because he cannot follow these laws, but the spirit filled believer can.
Last edited:
Hi Ariel
There is nothing wrong with God's laws, but I think we need to properly define what law is.
You use the call to forgive as an example of "law" or "God's law". It is not a law in the sense that it could ever be legislated or even enforced - as such it is beyond law.
The law that Paul speaks about (and Jesus Himself for that matter) was the Mosaic Law. In spiritual terms that Law (and any other codified system of law) can do no other than convict us of sin. This is not a bad thing, Paul calls it a "tutor" Gal 3:24-25 to bring us to Christ. However, as Paul also says once we are saved we are no longer in need of that tutor.
Paul does talk about another "law" but it is not really law but "beyond law". Paul's terminology is "the law of the Spirit of life in Christ". What he is referring to is the effect that the Holy Spirit has on our life. The fruit of the Spirit (Gal 5:22) is really the outworking of this "law". The fruit of the Spirit cannot be law because there is no possibility that it could ever be legislated. And think about it, you could actually write the statute commanding this it is not possible to enforce, and so is useless as a law. But in reality, this how we are commanded to live. The sorts of things that Jesus said in the Sermon on the Mount and on other occasions were really just harbingers of this.
There is nothing wrong with God's laws, but I think we need to properly define what law is.
You use the call to forgive as an example of "law" or "God's law". It is not a law in the sense that it could ever be legislated or even enforced - as such it is beyond law.
The law that Paul speaks about (and Jesus Himself for that matter) was the Mosaic Law. In spiritual terms that Law (and any other codified system of law) can do no other than convict us of sin. This is not a bad thing, Paul calls it a "tutor" Gal 3:24-25 to bring us to Christ. However, as Paul also says once we are saved we are no longer in need of that tutor.
Paul does talk about another "law" but it is not really law but "beyond law". Paul's terminology is "the law of the Spirit of life in Christ". What he is referring to is the effect that the Holy Spirit has on our life. The fruit of the Spirit (Gal 5:22) is really the outworking of this "law". The fruit of the Spirit cannot be law because there is no possibility that it could ever be legislated. And think about it, you could actually write the statute commanding this it is not possible to enforce, and so is useless as a law. But in reality, this how we are commanded to live. The sorts of things that Jesus said in the Sermon on the Mount and on other occasions were really just harbingers of this.