When God created man. Is this happened literal physical or Spiritual?
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There was and is still today the Angelic Conflict happening. There was life here on earth before Father made man the first Adam. Exactly whether the woman he went over the hill and married we, I have no clue and the Bible does not go there to explain it. It is a "Cliff note" to conjecture, spitball off of. As the entire Bible is full of "Cliff notes, man makes doctrines out of and gets off track
As Paul stated to me in the Bible, the foundation is the Deth, burial and resurrection of Jesus as Doctrine
So, where she came from, and how, I do not know. Except this earth is very old, and man was not made on it at first from God Father, known as Father now. No info on that but that is was dark when God came upon earth and said, let there be light (referencing Jesus Christ the light) that took many years to see that truth thanks, trusting to help you, yet maybe not.
Then we have the flood that wiped out all on here on the earth then in the line of Seth to Adam and Eve. Left Noah and his wife and three Son's with their wives, and yet the Nephilm continued on
As Paul stated to me in the Bible, the foundation is the Deth, burial and resurrection of Jesus as Doctrine
So, where she came from, and how, I do not know. Except this earth is very old, and man was not made on it at first from God Father, known as Father now. No info on that but that is was dark when God came upon earth and said, let there be light (referencing Jesus Christ the light) that took many years to see that truth thanks, trusting to help you, yet maybe not.
Then we have the flood that wiped out all on here on the earth then in the line of Seth to Adam and Eve. Left Noah and his wife and three Son's with their wives, and yet the Nephilm continued on
I have no idea. We are not told anything in the bible about their physical appearance, and obviously they were created before God spread human beings across the world after Babel, so there were no Middle Eastern, European and so on characteristics. All we do know is that their appearance was very good, because we are told that God saw everything that He had made (including Adam and Eve) at it was very good.
May I fine-tune some of your good points?
Both A&E were made in the image of God, which means with God-consciousness and conscience,
so they were both physical and spiritual souls, and they were very good/innocent at first but not perfect like Christ,
who is the incarnate fullness or Spirit of God (cf. Eph. 3:17-19 & 4:13).
Both A&E were made in the image of God, which means with God-consciousness and conscience,
so they were both physical and spiritual souls, and they were very good/innocent at first but not perfect like Christ,
who is the incarnate fullness or Spirit of God (cf. Eph. 3:17-19 & 4:13).
Here is part of an answer that is given on the Answers in Genesis website:
"The simple answer is that Cain married his sister or another close relation, like a niece. This answer may sound revolting for those of us who grew up in societies that have attached a stigma to such an idea, but if we start from Scripture, the answer is clear.
1 Corinthians 15:45 tells us that Adam was “the first man.” Genesis 3:20 states that Eve “was the mother of all the living” (NASB), and Genesis 5:4 reveals that Adam and Eve “had sons and daughters” (besides Cain, Abel, and Seth).
There were no other people on earth as some have claimed. God did not create other people groups from which Cain chose a wife, as we are all made of one blood (Acts 17:26). If He had made others, these people would not have been able to be saved from their sins, since only descendants of Adam can be saved—that’s why it was so important for Jesus to be Adam’s descendant.
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Why is the church not nearly as effective in reaching the lost as it was only a generation ago? Get the DVD series for an answer to this question and many others.
Doesn’t the Bible forbid marriage between close relations? It does, but the laws against marrying family members were initially given as part of the Mosaic covenant, approximately 2,500 years after God created Adam and Eve. Due in part to genetic mistakes, these laws were necessary to help protect offspring from mutations shared by both parents."
If you are interested to see the full answer, it is here: https://answersingenesis.org/bible-...tlQa0M-aSHgbNPI4ytl8vFgecVQ93OHCulRphqqMRSXPa
"The simple answer is that Cain married his sister or another close relation, like a niece. This answer may sound revolting for those of us who grew up in societies that have attached a stigma to such an idea, but if we start from Scripture, the answer is clear.
1 Corinthians 15:45 tells us that Adam was “the first man.” Genesis 3:20 states that Eve “was the mother of all the living” (NASB), and Genesis 5:4 reveals that Adam and Eve “had sons and daughters” (besides Cain, Abel, and Seth).
There were no other people on earth as some have claimed. God did not create other people groups from which Cain chose a wife, as we are all made of one blood (Acts 17:26). If He had made others, these people would not have been able to be saved from their sins, since only descendants of Adam can be saved—that’s why it was so important for Jesus to be Adam’s descendant.
Foundations
Why is the church not nearly as effective in reaching the lost as it was only a generation ago? Get the DVD series for an answer to this question and many others.
Doesn’t the Bible forbid marriage between close relations? It does, but the laws against marrying family members were initially given as part of the Mosaic covenant, approximately 2,500 years after God created Adam and Eve. Due in part to genetic mistakes, these laws were necessary to help protect offspring from mutations shared by both parents."
If you are interested to see the full answer, it is here: https://answersingenesis.org/bible-...tlQa0M-aSHgbNPI4ytl8vFgecVQ93OHCulRphqqMRSXPa
I cannot answer that only speculate from Cain went over the hill and married
That I see in truth is all that is needed to know, at least for me. I trust God, whether I know or not. whether or not I get confused anywhere in reading truth from God in the Bible
When that happened to me in the service in 1975, was in squad bay, held disabled, I read the entire Bible when there. I saw a place of confusion and said to God, I do not understand. then said it matters not, I trust you to reveal to me as need to reveal whatever you decide, thank you
And so this new life offered me became deeper, as I went through many mistakes that God himself has never condemned me as religion(s) have
Thank you, God loves us all, is not a tyrant at all, free choice is real
I found out to not choose God to lead me in the freedom given me, is anarchy.
Then once I chose to believe God over it all, I saw I still had free choice.
I saw if that got taken away from me (as is done by people in religions) all across this world, that would make my Father a Tyrant and God is not that, to me at least, If is, then no one would be here on earth fighting still would they? God loves us all. God waits for the free choice for each and everyone to decide this to believe God does or doesn't love us all
Ask this from God
God, how can I get anyone to love me without taking away their free choice?
That I see in truth is all that is needed to know, at least for me. I trust God, whether I know or not. whether or not I get confused anywhere in reading truth from God in the Bible
When that happened to me in the service in 1975, was in squad bay, held disabled, I read the entire Bible when there. I saw a place of confusion and said to God, I do not understand. then said it matters not, I trust you to reveal to me as need to reveal whatever you decide, thank you
And so this new life offered me became deeper, as I went through many mistakes that God himself has never condemned me as religion(s) have
Thank you, God loves us all, is not a tyrant at all, free choice is real
I found out to not choose God to lead me in the freedom given me, is anarchy.
Then once I chose to believe God over it all, I saw I still had free choice.
I saw if that got taken away from me (as is done by people in religions) all across this world, that would make my Father a Tyrant and God is not that, to me at least, If is, then no one would be here on earth fighting still would they? God loves us all. God waits for the free choice for each and everyone to decide this to believe God does or doesn't love us all
Ask this from God
God, how can I get anyone to love me without taking away their free choice?
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Of course if one starts off with Scripture then it is clear why they would accept that interpretation since no man comes to the word except the Holy Ghost draws him. (See John 6:44) Now once drawn, the answer is clear, because it is written in scriptures that "the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name "seeing that it is written in John 5:43 " I am come in my Father's name..." . And it is the Holy Ghost who will teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you; " so yes it should be clear if the Holy Ghost is teaching them.
The word of the LORD is the same yesterday, today, as it will alway be. If the word of the LORD is that a man is not to uncover the nakedness of their mother, or the children of their mother then that was always the will of the heavenly Father and always will be. A God with a temporal word is a temporal god. For ever, O LORD, thy word is settled in heaven. Ps 119:89
The word of the LORD is the same yesterday, today, as it will alway be. If the word of the LORD is that a man is not to uncover the nakedness of their mother, or the children of their mother then that was always the will of the heavenly Father and always will be. A God with a temporal word is a temporal god. For ever, O LORD, thy word is settled in heaven. Ps 119:89
Let me emphasize the topic again.
When man was created by God the Father. Is the Creation in Literal Physical or Spiritual?
When man was created it is written he was created in the image of God.
GENESIS 1:26
26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
If this is in Literal Physical Creation, among the different images of the people today on earth. Who got the image of God?
Or No One has the image of God because God is Spiritual being?
We are just talking the image of God aside from the Likeness of God.
When man was created by God the Father. Is the Creation in Literal Physical or Spiritual?
When man was created it is written he was created in the image of God.
GENESIS 1:26
26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
If this is in Literal Physical Creation, among the different images of the people today on earth. Who got the image of God?
Or No One has the image of God because God is Spiritual being?
We are just talking the image of God aside from the Likeness of God.
This question was raised because of the Topic.
When God Created Man, is it in Literal Physical or Spiritual Creation?
Cain after he killed Abel he went into far away place (from the presence of the Lord) and in that place he found his wife.
How could Cain married his sister or niece where the family of Adam & Eve were in the presence of the Lord and Cain stayed away from the presence of the Lord?
Or the Creation is in Spiritual and the story of Cain is in Spiritual meaning too?
GENESIS 4:
9 And the Lord said unto Cain, Where is Abel thy brother? And he said, I know not: Am I my brother's keeper?
10 And he said, What hast thou done? the voice of thy brother's blood crieth unto me from the ground.
11 And now art thou cursed from the earth, which hath opened her mouth to receive thy brother's blood from thy hand;
12 When thou tillest the ground, it shall not henceforth yield unto thee her strength; a fugitive and a vagabond shalt thou be in the earth.
13 And Cain said unto the Lord, My punishment is greater than I can bear.
14 Behold, thou hast driven me out this day from the face of the earth; and from thy face shall I be hid; and I shall be a fugitive and a vagabond in the earth; and it shall come to pass, that every one that findeth me shall slay me.
15 And the Lord said unto him, Therefore whosoever slayeth Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him sevenfold. And the Lord set a mark upon Cain, lest any finding him should kill him.
16 And Cain went out from the presence of the Lord, and dwelt in the land of Nod, on the east of Eden.
17 And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch: and he builded a city, and called the name of the city, after the name of his son, Enoch.
When God Created Man, is it in Literal Physical or Spiritual Creation?
Cain after he killed Abel he went into far away place (from the presence of the Lord) and in that place he found his wife.
How could Cain married his sister or niece where the family of Adam & Eve were in the presence of the Lord and Cain stayed away from the presence of the Lord?
Or the Creation is in Spiritual and the story of Cain is in Spiritual meaning too?
GENESIS 4:
9 And the Lord said unto Cain, Where is Abel thy brother? And he said, I know not: Am I my brother's keeper?
10 And he said, What hast thou done? the voice of thy brother's blood crieth unto me from the ground.
11 And now art thou cursed from the earth, which hath opened her mouth to receive thy brother's blood from thy hand;
12 When thou tillest the ground, it shall not henceforth yield unto thee her strength; a fugitive and a vagabond shalt thou be in the earth.
13 And Cain said unto the Lord, My punishment is greater than I can bear.
14 Behold, thou hast driven me out this day from the face of the earth; and from thy face shall I be hid; and I shall be a fugitive and a vagabond in the earth; and it shall come to pass, that every one that findeth me shall slay me.
15 And the Lord said unto him, Therefore whosoever slayeth Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him sevenfold. And the Lord set a mark upon Cain, lest any finding him should kill him.
16 And Cain went out from the presence of the Lord, and dwelt in the land of Nod, on the east of Eden.
17 And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch: and he builded a city, and called the name of the city, after the name of his son, Enoch.
Because of the Truth in Ecclesiastes 1:9 in which what God did it happens all the time even in our present time.
It seems like the Creation of Man is in Spiritual Creation.
According to Paul.
The Spiritual things can't be seen.
2 CORINTHIANS 4:18
18 While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal.
It seems like the Creation of Man is in Spiritual Creation.
According to Paul.
The Spiritual things can't be seen.
2 CORINTHIANS 4:18
18 While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal.
Or his niece even. Adam and Eve would have had Cain and Abel along with two daughters or one daughter and then Cain would have married one of his sisters or perhaps Abel's daughter, if I'm getting things correct that is (I don't think other sons were left unmentioned, with what it says about Seth especially).
Your question involves two issues, the first being the difference between the physical and spiritual and the second being the meaning of created.
The issue of physical and spiritual is addressed in Genesis 1:1 when God created the heaven and the earth. So was the creation of the heaven and the earth a literal physical creation or a spiritual creation?
As written in John 3:12 where the question is asked, "If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things? Jesus had given an example when he said, "The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: " If you believe that the wind blows where it wants, then how can you believe that the winds blow according to his circuits.
In regard to the creation of man, the term 'create' has distinct meaning in the scriptures than the one given to the term in its common usage. In scripture it in infers by implication that is a divine act of bringing something into existence that has never existed in substance or nature prior to its being created, moreover, when the scriptures of Genesis used the term 'create' it also inferred by implication that if not for the divine act that brought it into existence, that which was created could not have came into existence on its own by any natural process.
The issue of physical and spiritual is addressed in Genesis 1:1 when God created the heaven and the earth. So was the creation of the heaven and the earth a literal physical creation or a spiritual creation?
As written in John 3:12 where the question is asked, "If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things? Jesus had given an example when he said, "The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: " If you believe that the wind blows where it wants, then how can you believe that the winds blow according to his circuits.
In regard to the creation of man, the term 'create' has distinct meaning in the scriptures than the one given to the term in its common usage. In scripture it in infers by implication that is a divine act of bringing something into existence that has never existed in substance or nature prior to its being created, moreover, when the scriptures of Genesis used the term 'create' it also inferred by implication that if not for the divine act that brought it into existence, that which was created could not have came into existence on its own by any natural process.