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NoahsMom

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When these forums were first opened here, you think ..OK, discussions for ppl to express views , opinions, beleifs, testamonies etc. This is a good thing, then comes the opposing views, which can still be a good thing, I mean we can all learn from one another right? Ill be the first to admit, some things I thought I would never consider, I have stopped, done some reading, some studying, tried to see it from anothers perspective. Then, you get the snide, prideful , comments, you COULD maybe even get told how your goin to hell because your views are heresy, blasphemy, oh yea...and how God couldnt possibly be talkin to you, your not the right denomination, you have been married twice, you like john hagee ( keep in mind , im generalizing here). We are ALL supposed to feel like we have the freedom to speak our minds here, I mean we all are adults, and unless someone is flat out denying God , and Robo will ban ya, and rightly so, shouldnt things be done decently and in order? I can say I have got my nose bent out a joint a time or twelve , and I can say I should think about the words Im gonna speak before I post em, Shouldnt we all? Its very dis-inheartening to see a potentially good conversation turn ugly in here over ignorance and lack of self control. Im not gonna tell someone in here they are bound for hell because they believe in eternal salvation, nor am i gonna tell someone theyre goin to hell cause they speak in tongues. NOT because I want to tickle their ears, or Im afraid Ill make em mad, simply because IM NOT GOD...and I wouldnt dream of pointing out their faults ( righteously , of course) unless my door step is clean so to speak. The way i see it...If God wants me to tell someone something, he will show me in a way I know Its God tellin me to do it, and not some warped sence of me showin how right i am and how wrong they are. When you correct someone , its to be done in love, and your to do it in way to help them correct the wrong, how can you do that if you openly tear them down so bad, they would never care to hear another word you ever uttered? Wheres the love Jesus speaks of in that? I had to get it off my chest, everyone else in here says exactly what they think.....so i just gave my two cents worth.
 
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Love Love Love :)
 
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MaggieMye

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Are you referring to any specific threads???
 
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Geo_Rivero

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I agree with you whole heartly. I wish people would have more patience for each other, even when they disagree on something.
 
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carpetmanswife

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I agree , even disagreein with someone isnt a bad thing but come on..its how its said, my christianity has been questioned recently because of a sarcastic and funny i might add comment i made ..had nothin to do with the topic at hand just made someone mad so im actin unchristianlike:rolleyes: according to them. mayb we all need to grow up a little..and think before we speak. myself included but dang some just make it soooooooooo easy:p
 
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Does anyone else notice how often these threads come up and how after each one nothing's changed? I don't mean to dishearten anyone, but if you say you support something it really only makes sense to practice it.
 
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carpetmanswife

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agreed..........
 
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missy2shoes

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Grimaldus, although I don't agree with everything you write in various threads, I must say, I'm very impressed with how you word things and your obvious maturity for one so young.....sooo nice to have ya on board :)
 
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carpetmanswife

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agree again....hm this is becomin a pattern mayb i should go lie down.
 
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I I also I don't agree with everything you write in various threads, but that is my thinking.... Maybe you have think diffirent me... But I will keep you in prayer... Because you are my friend in Jesus's name!!!
 
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NoahsMom

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You just said a mouthful Pearl....even tho ppl might be different from you, you pray for them, and call them friend! I admire that .
 
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I don't ever tell anyone they are going to hell, but as far as debating scriptures most that I disagree with, I understand that it is their compassion for the Word, that drives them to debate at the level that they do, we are all too happy to jump on what we believe and trash everything else , A fine example here for this would be Jesus was Love, but that is all that some preach. and we over look the fact that it was this being of agape love that had enough compassion For His Father's House that He took a three cord whip and drove the money changers out of the House of Prayer. It was this perfect example of The Father's Love that taught us Mt 19:29And every one that hath forsaken houses, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my name's sake, shall receive an hundredfold, and shall inherit everlasting life.
we must put God first, if any in this room would put my feelings over the truth, the trinity, or God would be putting me above God, please don't do that for my sake, even if it means shaking the dust from your feet and parting ways, always put God First, for His sake and yours
 
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mcap

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All here need to remember we are on the same team.Also remember that someone might say or do something because of prior life experiences.Christians are to accept people for how they are,It's Gods' job to do all the rest.
 
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NoahsMom

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I understand what you are saying thaddaeus... and I agree we can over look the fact that he speaks of agape love, and i agree with you 100% that God must come first, this is what im havin a hard time wrappin my brain around.....anybody can come in here , quote scripture and say" this is what God means when he said this and that...and this is referring to this point and that point", depending on what the subject is thats bein discussed. However, whos to say that persons interpretation is the 100% correct one? And more often than not, when it gets heated, you can be passionate about your beliefs, but if it comes to the point of bein rude, prideful, maybe thats a sign to bow out graceful. Does the bible not say there is no man without sin except the lord himself? that would lead me to believe we all have faults, we all strive daily, we all have things we need to work on to be closer to God, and if thats the case....we have absolutely NO RIGHT righteously judging anybody till we have read our own mail.
 
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I agree with you Noahsmom, We all forget that its God that calls us, nothing absolutely nothing else can save us, rather its denomination or nondenomination,another man or woman, money or whatever.. We must remember that when we share with one another in what we do believe, that no matter how hard we try to witness to another soul about God that its God's choosin not our own,God will be the one who says Yes and No to a person.

I also agree with Thaddaeus about dusting your feet which is in the bible, I have done this in the past on people I loved, and I have seen God's judgement fall on them, not that I actually wanted God to punish them but when it first happened I was amazed.. So yes christian or socalled christian need to always remember to put God first and foremost in everything before any family memeber,etc. I know it ain't easy, as long as we are in this world we are gonna do things in the flesh, we ain't perfect but we strive daily to be better than before. I encourage all members of this ChristianChat and its boards to read your Bible more, search the scriptures, find a good devotion and don't just go along with what a man says even if he is a christian or minister,etc;read it for yourself, don't rely on others to feed you but let the word open up to you with the Holy Spirit help.
Also if anyone would like to email me - its [email protected]

Until next time.. God's Blessings to those who follows His word.

RoosterNZ/Bill
 
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NoahsMom said:
I understand what you are saying thaddaeus... and I agree we can over look the fact that he speaks of agape love, and i agree with you 100% that God must come first, this is what im havin a hard time wrappin my brain around.....anybody can come in here , quote scripture and say" this is what God means when he said this and that...and this is referring to this point and that point", depending on what the subject is thats bein discussed. However, whos to say that persons interpretation is the 100% correct one? And more often than not, when it gets heated, you can be passionate about your beliefs, but if it comes to the point of bein rude, prideful, maybe thats a sign to bow out graceful. Does the bible not say there is no man without sin except the lord himself? that would lead me to believe we all have faults, we all strive daily, we all have things we need to work on to be closer to God, and if thats the case....we have absolutely NO RIGHT righteously judging anybody till we have read our own mail.
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The problem is what's highlighted in blue. NoahsMom, do you believe that God wants you to know exactly and precisely what His scriptures really teach? Does that apply to every subject of scripture? Do the scriptures reveal what God's nature and His character is really like and what He thinks? When Paul wrote (8) letters to (6) churches, was he just giving them some general instructions or was he teaching them specific doctrine with precise truth so they they would know who God is, what He is like and how to think with Him in the details of life? God has given to the church pastor-teachers, so that we will not be tossed around with every wind of doctrine, with the result that we would have unity in the faith. The faith is not a general faith because it has the definite article 'the' before it. This means it is a specific and precise faith that we adhere to. We have to be taught this specific faith by those that God has called as pastor-teachers (P/T) and we must put ourselves under them and submit and obey their teaching. They are to teach the apostle's doctrine that has been laid out in scripture. *You and I can not study on our own and get it all right. You might not like that but that is the way God set it up so that we have to come under His authority and learn how to submit and obey what is taught by those men that God has called. That does not stop anyone from searching and studying the scriptures on their own, but rather encourages it. (I can give you all the scriptures on it)

How many of those that post here have a local church that has a P/T who specifically teaches doctrine line upon line and precept upon precept? This P/T first and foremost job is to study to show himself approved, so he will not be ashamed and who learns to rightly divide the word of truth. He is to do this to the point of exhaustion and allows it to dwell richly in his heart. He is never to remove himself from this diligent task for the rest of his life, because it is his calling to do so. In doing this, he is to make sure he gets it right so he can live it right and teach it right. If God has called him then He will make sure that the P/Ter's heart is right through humility, brokenness and contrition. Those that God has put under his teaching should always remember that he will go trough trials, he will fail, he will make mistakes but he is growing in grace and knowledge of Christ. If you are not under a P/T, WHY NOT! If you are under a P/T, he should be teaching you specific and precise doctrine that is vital to every part of your salvation.

Anyone that teaches God's salvation outside of grace and through faith is absolutely and totally in error and is going against the very salvation they are trying to protect with repentance against sin. Anyone that teaches that we are not totally kept by grace and the word of God should be cut off. This should not be taken lightly, nor should we have anything to do with it. I, personally, do not love what they teach and do not love them for teaching it, because it is bondage. We are to stand fast in the liberty wherewith Christ has made us free and never be entangled again in the yoke of bondage (Gal 5:1). If some of you learned doctrine the way you should, you would understand and wouldn't be so unstable to the point where you begin to mis-characterize the love of God and put your feelings ahead of truth.
 
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Lauren

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It makes my stomach lurch when I see a person question another person's salvation. A Christian (especially someone young in the faith) could be so easily misled on an issue and have a false idea, but that in no way negates their salvation. Kind of makes me wonder about the person that would even make such a proclamation -- I pray they don't suffer a judgment for declaring someone bound for hell, especially if they're not.

I've had lots of questions along the way here, but I'm usually wary to post because I am not in a spiritual position right now to withstand being shot down or berated.

I've kind of been away from my faith for a while, and am crawling my way back -- so I know my speech is not always as gentle as I'd like it to be (as when I was first saved). I apologize for that, for sometimes returning nastiness with nastiness. I pray that I can get back to that gentleness of spirit I once had. I'd welcome a prayer for that from anyone too.



 
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markhelp

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Thank you for your post.
I am sure I have rubbed a few people the wrong way myself.
There are some , no doubt, that think I am full of crap...but I never view another Christian as an enemy.
The Bible teaches me I have an adversary......and it's the Devil,.......not a brother or sister in Christ.
I don't have the right to hate or dislike someone for whom Christ died, and has confessed him as Lord, and is now God's son or daughter.
We should help each other and remember who our real adversary is.

God bless
 
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I agree we should not judge one another for even Christ did not judge when He was on earth. But everyone has different perspectives; some posts might be profitable for one person but seem condemning for another. If you think someone's post is offensive to you, just ignore it. That is my opinion.
 
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NoahsMom

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Gal 5:22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
Gal 5:23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.
Gal 5:24 And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.
Gal 5:25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.
Gal 5:26 Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another.
 
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