Why do the Catholics teach you must be in the Catholic Church to receive Salvation?

[Mec99]

Ephesians 2:8-9
[SUP]8 [/SUP] For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God,
[SUP]9 [/SUP] not of works, lest anyone should boast.

God says its by Faith and Grace we receive Salvation. So why does the Catholic Church teach membership in the Catholic church is required for Salvation?

846 How are we to understand this affirmation, often repeated by the Church Fathers? Re-formulated positively, it means that all salvation comes from Christ the Head through the Church which is his Body:


Basing itself on Scripture and Tradition, the Council teaches that the Church, a pilgrim now on earth, is necessary for salvation: the one Christ is the mediator and the way of salvation; he is present to us in his body which is the Church. He himself explicitly asserted the necessity of faith and Baptism, and thereby affirmed at the same time the necessity of the Church which men enter through Baptism as through a door. Hence they could not be saved who, knowing that the Catholic Church was founded as necessary by God through Christ, would refuse either to enter it or to remain in it.

 

[Vdp]

You must understand the Catholic Church never was the True Church. How can it be the True Church when its teaches the opposite of what God says? You CANNOT claim to be the True Church AND teach Mary was without sin!

The Catholic Church today has no real leadership to bring the Catholics to God.

All Pope Francis wants is Gold and Power.

How can the Catholics come to accept God when the people in charge want nothing to do with God?

 

[crossnote]

I thought that is what they use to teach. I'm sure they would deny it today.

 

[mailmandan]

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Salvation Outside the Church?

Question: Catholics believe that salvation is possible for everyone whatever their religion. Good people who are not members of the Catholic Church, such as Jews and Muslims, can be saved also.

Answer: Your statement reflects the teaching of the Catholic Church after the Second Vatican Council. However this was not always what Rome taught. Please read carefully the following quotations:

There is but one universal Church of the faithful, outside of which no one at all can be saved (Pope Innocent III, Fourth Lateran Council).

We declare, say, define, and pronounce that it is absolutely necessary for the salvation of every human creature to be subject to the Roman Pontiff (Pope Boniface VIII, Unam Sanctam).

The most Holy Roman Church firmly believes, professes, and preaches that none of those existing outside the Catholic Church, not only pagans, but also Jews and heretics and schismatics, can have a share in life eternal; but that they will go into the eternal fire which was prepared for the devil and his angels, unless before death they are joined with Her; and that so important is the unity of this ecclesiastical body that only those remaining within this unity can profit by the sacraments of the Church unto salvation, and they alone can receive an eternal recompense for their fasts, their almsgiving, their other works of Christian piety and the duties of a Christian soldier. No one, let his almsgiving be as great as it may, no one, even if he pour out his blood for the Name of Christ, can be saved, unless he remain within the bosom and the unity of the Catholic Church (Pope Eugene IV, Cantate Domino).

According to the teaching of the old Roman religion, there is no salvation outside the Catholic Church. The reason given by the Pope is that all their good works are useless unless one remains within the bosom and unity of the Church. It is ironic that the modern Catholic teaching pins the hope of salvation for "heretics and schismatics" (like Protestants and Orthodox Christians) on a "mysterious relationship" that is supposedly maintained with the Catholic Church. [1] Evidently Pope Eugene had never heard of that mysterious relationship!

The positions taken by the old and the modern Catholic Church are irreconcilable and contradictory. As a faithful Catholic you will find it impossible to admit that the Church was or is now mistaken; with such an acknowledgement the whole structure of infallibility falls like a house of cards. But I think that deep down you can feel the tension.

Certainty about salvation can be known through God's infallible Word, the Holy Bible. The apostle Paul declares, "I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ, for it is the power of God to salvation for everyone who believes, for the Jew first and also for the Greek" (Romans 1:16). He also reminds the believers in Ephesus how they were saved when they heard the Gospel and trusted in Jesus. "In Him you also trusted, after you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation; in whom also, having believed, you were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise" (Ephesians 1:13).

In the past, the Roman magisterium wrongly condemned the true believers who were outside of papal domination. In the present, the Vatican gives a false hope of salvation apart from the knowledge of the Gospel and faith in Christ Jesus.

To ascertain whether you are saved or not, do not ask the name of you church or denomination. Ask if you know the Word of Truth, the Gospel, and whether you truly believe in the Lord Jesus Christ or not. If you genuinely believe in Jesus, you are a member of His body, the church, and in this sense it is perfectly true to say that there is no salvation outside the church! Being "saved" and "a member of the church" (the spiritual body of Christ) are one and the same thing.

 

[valiant]

That used to be the position of the Roman Catholic church :

Pope Eugene IV (1441) in his Bull "Cantate Domino" said: "The most holy Roman church firmly believes, professes, and preaches that none of those existing outside the Catholic church, not only pagans, but also Jews and heretics and schismatics, can have a share in life eternal, but that they will go into eternal fire which was prepared for the devil and his angels, unless before death theyjoined with her - No one, even if he pour out his blood for the name of Christ, can be saved unless he remain within the bosom and the unity of the Catholic church."

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Pope Boniface VIII in his Bull "Unam Sanctam" (1302) infallibly taught: "We are compelled in virtue of our faith to believe and maintain that there is only one Catholic church, and that one apostolic.Outside this church there is no salvation and no remission of sins - We declare, say, define, and pronounce that it is absolutely necessary for the salvation of every human creature to be subject to the Roman Pontiff."

Pope Benedict XV in his Encyclical "Ad Beatissmi" (1914) said: "Such is the nature of Catholicism that it does not admit of more or less, but must be held as a whole, or as a whole rejected: This is the Catholic faith, which unless a man believe faithfully and firmly, he cannot be saved."

Pope Innocent III at the fourth Lateran Council wrote: " There is but one universal church of the faithful, outside of which, no one at all can be saved."

But now they have changed their minds, rescinded the bulls which were 'infallibly inspired', and call us separated brethren.​

 

[crossnote]

Pre Vatican II vs post Vatican II...but Rome never changes it's infallible doctrine ..naww .

 

[Blain]

the funny thing is the church of Christ has the very same view here in oklahoma. there many many churches of Christ in Oklahoma and they are well known for believing that unless you are baptized in their church then you cannot receive salvation all except the one I go to which is a church of Christ but is one of few in the church of Christ tree that believes we are saved by faith and by grace.

 

[crossnote]

the funny thing is the church of Christ has the very same view here in oklahoma. there many many churches of Christ in Oklahoma and they are well known for believing that unless you are baptized in their church then you cannot receive salvation all except the one I go to which is a church of Christ but is one of few in the church of Christ tree that believes we are saved by faith and by grace.

definitely one of the marks of a cult mentality.

 

[Magenta]

Catholics believe that salvation is possible for everyone whatever their religion. Good people who are not members of the Catholic Church, such as Jews and Muslims, can be saved also.

Can be saved, as in the future if they repent and believe, or as they are, in their current state of non-belief? Are the good Muslims the ones that strap bombs to their body to further their religious cause and assure their entrance to heaven by murdering other people in their holy jihad? Do any Muslims accept Jesus Christ as their Lord and Saviour, Who paid our sin debt on the cross? Oh, no, they cannot, since Muslims do not believe Jesus was crucified, and therefore neither did He overcome death on our behalf through His resurrection to new life in their view. Even Jesus, in His humanity, said that only God is good.

 

[Utah]

We declare, say, define, and pronounce that it is absolutely necessary for the salvation of every human creature to be subject to the Roman Pontiff (Pope Boniface VIII, Unam Sanctam).

This is blasphemous idolatry at its finest. Jesus comes to us with the greatest message of all time; all the while man and his institutions have been screwing up that message from day one.

 

[Ahwatukee]

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Salvation Outside the Church?

Question: Catholics believe that salvation is possible for everyone whatever their religion. Good people who are not members of the Catholic Church, such as Jews and Muslims, can be saved also.

Answer: Your statement reflects the teaching of the Catholic Church after the Second Vatican Council. However this was not always what Rome taught. Please read carefully the following quotations:

There is but one universal Church of the faithful, outside of which no one at all can be saved (Pope Innocent III, Fourth Lateran Council).

We declare, say, define, and pronounce that it is absolutely necessary for the salvation of every human creature to be subject to the Roman Pontiff (Pope Boniface VIII, Unam Sanctam).

The most Holy Roman Church firmly believes, professes, and preaches that none of those existing outside the Catholic Church, not only pagans, but also Jews and heretics and schismatics, can have a share in life eternal; but that they will go into the eternal fire which was prepared for the devil and his angels, unless before death they are joined with Her; and that so important is the unity of this ecclesiastical body that only those remaining within this unity can profit by the sacraments of the Church unto salvation, and they alone can receive an eternal recompense for their fasts, their almsgiving, their other works of Christian piety and the duties of a Christian soldier. No one, let his almsgiving be as great as it may, no one, even if he pour out his blood for the Name of Christ, can be saved, unless he remain within the bosom and the unity of the Catholic Church (Pope Eugene IV, Cantate Domino).

According to the teaching of the old Roman religion, there is no salvation outside the Catholic Church. The reason given by the Pope is that all their good works are useless unless one remains within the bosom and unity of the Church. It is ironic that the modern Catholic teaching pins the hope of salvation for "heretics and schismatics" (like Protestants and Orthodox Christians) on a "mysterious relationship" that is supposedly maintained with the Catholic Church. [1] Evidently Pope Eugene had never heard of that mysterious relationship!

The positions taken by the old and the modern Catholic Church are irreconcilable and contradictory. As a faithful Catholic you will find it impossible to admit that the Church was or is now mistaken; with such an acknowledgement the whole structure of infallibility falls like a house of cards. But I think that deep down you can feel the tension.

Certainty about salvation can be known through God's infallible Word, the Holy Bible. The apostle Paul declares, "I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ, for it is the power of God to salvation for everyone who believes, for the Jew first and also for the Greek" (Romans 1:16). He also reminds the believers in Ephesus how they were saved when they heard the Gospel and trusted in Jesus. "In Him you also trusted, after you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation; in whom also, having believed, you were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise" (Ephesians 1:13).

In the past, the Roman magisterium wrongly condemned the true believers who were outside of papal domination. In the present, the Vatican gives a false hope of salvation apart from the knowledge of the Gospel and faith in Christ Jesus.

To ascertain whether you are saved or not, do not ask the name of you church or denomination. Ask if you know the Word of Truth, the Gospel, and whether you truly believe in the Lord Jesus Christ or not. If you genuinely believe in Jesus, you are a member of His body, the church, and in this sense it is perfectly true to say that there is no salvation outside the church! Being "saved" and "a member of the church" (the spiritual body of Christ) are one and the same thing.

Very good post!

When Constantine deemed Christianity as the official religion of Rome, he being the first pope (not Peter) and also holding the office of emperor, these characteristics were eventually passed along to the office of the papacy. The agenda of the popes and the RCC was and still is to have all people accountable to the papacy and Roman Catholicism.

The church of Rome and her popes were responsible for the major inquisitions in order to bring all people under her authority and that by imprisonment, torture, confiscation of property and the possibility of death for all who refused. To bring all people everywhere, all religious sects and unbelievers as well to be accountable to the papacy and a member of the RCC, is still her agenda. The only reason that this is not currently being enforced is because she doesn't have the physical/military power to enforce it. In times past she wielded controlled over kings and their armies and that by threat of ex-communication or anathema. She will again have that power back and more, which the antichrist with afford her when he appears and then the papacy will have the power to enforce her authority upon all people once again and that under the same consequences of rejecting her.

"And I saw the woman, drunk with the blood of the saints, the blood of the martyrs of Jesus. When I saw her, I marveled greatly."

I personally believe that one of the future popes will play the part of the false prophet and since he will performing those satanic counterfeit miracles, signs and wonders on behalf of the first beast, the antichrist, then the devout of the RCC will listen to whatever their leader, the pope, instructs them to do. Regarding this, it is the second beast, the false prophet, who will require all people great and small, rich and poor, free and slave to receive that mark. The purpose of those miracles, signs and wonders, (2 Thes.2:9-10, Rev.13:13:13, 19:20) will be performed by the false prophet for the purpose of giving authentication to the first beast/antichrist who will be proclaiming himself to be God or anything that is called God or worshiped (2 Thes.2:4).

"And he performed great signs, even causing fire to come down from heaven to the earth in full view of the people."

Suffice to say, if there are already over 1.2 billion devout people to the papacy and to the RCC, what do think is going to happen when one of her popes begins to perform those miracles, signs and wonders, evening causing fire to come down out of heaven in full view of the inhabitants earth? All of those religious sects, Mormonism, the JW's, Christian science, Scientology and any other religious groups on the earth during that time will flock to her and that because of those signs. The only groups that will not be deceived by this will be the woman/Israel who will flee out into the desert to that place prepared for her by God after the abomination is set up and the great tribulation saints. The rest of the world will become worshipers of the beast, his image and will receive his mark.

 

[valiant]

Very good post!

When Constantine deemed Christianity as the official religion of Rome, he being the first pope (not Peter) and also holding the office of emperor, these characteristics were eventually passed along to the office of the papacy. The agenda of the popes and the RCC was and still is to have all people accountable to the papacy and Roman Catholicism.

The church of Rome and her popes were responsible for the major inquisitions in order to bring all people under her authority and that by imprisonment, torture, confiscation of property and the possibility of death for all who refused. To bring all people everywhere, all religious sects and unbelievers as well to be accountable to the papacy and a member of the RCC, is still her agenda. The only reason that this is not currently being enforced is because she doesn't have the physical/military power to enforce it. In times past she wielded controlled over kings and their armies and that by threat of ex-communication or anathema. She will again have that power back and more, which the antichrist with afford her when he appears and then the papacy will have the power to enforce her authority upon all people once again and that under the same consequences of rejecting her.

"And I saw the woman, drunk with the blood of the saints, the blood of the martyrs of Jesus. When I saw her, I marveled greatly."

I personally believe that one of the future popes will play the part of the false prophet and since he will performing those satanic counterfeit miracles, signs and wonders on behalf of the first beast, the antichrist, then the devout of the RCC will listen to whatever their leader, the pope, instructs them to do. Regarding this, it is the second beast, the false prophet, who will require all people great and small, rich and poor, free and slave to receive that mark. The purpose of those miracles, signs and wonders, (2 Thes.2:9-10, Rev.13:13:13, 19:20) will be performed by the false prophet for the purpose of giving authentication to the first beast/antichrist who will be proclaiming himself to be God or anything that is called God or worshiped (2 Thes.2:4).

"And he performed great signs, even causing fire to come down from heaven to the earth in full view of the people."

Suffice to say, if there are already over 1.2 billion devout people to the papacy and to the RCC, what do think is going to happen when one of her popes begins to perform those miracles, signs and wonders, evening causing fire to come down out of heaven in full view of the inhabitants earth? All of those religious sects, Mormonism, the JW's, Christian science, Scientology and any other religious groups on the earth during that time will flock to her and that because of those signs. The only groups that will not be deceived by this will be the woman/Israel who will flee out into the desert to that place prepared for her by God after the abomination is set up and the great tribulation saints. The rest of the world will become worshipers of the beast, his image and will receive his mark.

All this happened in 1st century AD

 

[KenAllan]

The End Times with the Mark of the Beast is still in the near Future Valiant. The Anti-Christ has yet to be revealed.

Its when you see all the True Christians disappearing that you can know for sure the End is near.

 

[Word_Swordsman]

Jesus directed the Church to serve the Father, pray to him, in Jesus' name (authority) giving the petitioner a right to be heard and answered according to the new covenant of Jesus Christ.

The RCC has taken that back, directing the Church to serve men who presume to intercede for other people in their quest of God. That makes them a cult. They imitate the old mortal priesthood of ancient Israel, rather than obey the new priesthood, of which Jesus is High Priest. The Pope can't possibly fulfill Jesus' ministry between us and the Father God since these present earthly priests are mortal men that die.

Depart from them, follow Jesus.

 

[CS1]

sorry wrong spot