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IDK88

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God says something to the effect of not seeking revenge on those that have wronged us, forgive them. So If Ive done wrong in my past and I asked for forgiveness, why do I feel like Im paying for past sins that I ve done when clearly Im trying to change?


God does not want his children to suffer, we turn to him for a better way right. Then why must I suffer before the good comes? Why do I have to be tested???

And if I must be tested, do I have to be tested UNTIL I FAIL?? God tested me, I think I passed..then I KEPT getting tested.....until I failed. Why???

If I choose the wrong path, eventually I will end up failing. I choose the right path and I suffer so much to prove that I "kept the faith", then some sunshine finally comes! Yayy....BUT, then I gotta go through another trial.

Test and trials come to make me strong??? If Im Gods Child, why do I need test and trials and heartache and struggles?? I can get that with the devil!!!

These are the thoughts I am thinking right now. Something in me knows this is wrong but I cant shake it. I need help. I KNOW God is real. Please, somebody slap me with something that will renew my faith before these thoughts Im having take control and steal my faith....W.I.W.
 

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What I am suggesting for you to do to understand and accept God's plan for you isn't easy, but I promise you the rewards are priceless.

Find every verse your bible has about David the read it. His life is so very interesting. He wanted to obey and please God. Lots of the beautiful psalms are written by him. The ones he wrote while Saul was trying to find him and kill him are really something. But oh, what sins he committed. He had so much blood on his hands that God wouldn't let him build the temple. His sex life was so rotten that God took a beloved son from him, and he never did have much luck with his kids.

David had to pay in this life for his sins, but David was also protected and cared for. The Old Testament is so interesting to us because there were prophets that were a communication between God and man, just as we have the Holy Sp;irit for this after Christ lived with us.


As you read this story, keep watching for how God takes care of our sin, what He does about it.

Think of it like this. If you steal something you must go to jail. If you are a thief, you do not have forgiveness. Christ died for our sins, through him you can take advantage of the forgiveness offered you and you can be forgiven and stop being a thief. You are then entitled to all the advantages and blessings of being God's child but you are still going to have to go to jail for the what you stole.
 
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We as Christians have to go through tough times. We have our ups and our downs... Don't worry, you're not the only one going through tough times... But remember, we ARE human; it's usual to go through tough times. It's going to be alright. Just pray and talk to God about it, and I guarantee you, He will aid you and be there for you... God's just trying to shape you and mold you into who He wants you to become...^^
 
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Being forgiven doesn't mean you're now fully exempt from the effects of your wrong doings. For example, lets say you have premarital sex and get pregnant. Then you ask for forgiveness, you don't magically become not pregnant. You still have to deal with the consequences of your actions.
 
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You know, when i was 10, i was playing on a wall that i wasn't supposed to be playing on at church and fell off it, landed on my back side, ended up in hospital and tore the main muscle in my back. i just wanted my father. When he got there, i burst into tears because he came storming in and made sure the nurses were doing all they could to make me comfortable. He walked in and the first thing he did was gave me a big hug and a kiss to let me know he loves me, and as tough as he was, he cried because my relief was out of his hands. As much as he wanted to take the pain away from me, he couldn't. I just had to experience the pain of the mistake i made by playing on that wall in order to never make the same mistake again, but he NEVER EVER LEFT THAT HOSPITAL BEDSIDE FOR A SECOND until i was completely healed, then he took me home and cared for me. I look back at that now and relate it to the way our Heavenly Father loves us.i made the mistake of playing on that wall and paid the price. My father was upset that i was hurting but nothing could be done. But i bet that he was so relieved to know that i would never play on that wall again and his son would be safe from commiting that stupid act again. Just remember that our Lord allows things to happen not only as tests, but as strengtheners. to strengthen our spirit and our faith and also our personality. The israelites, who knew Him better than anyone, kept losing faith. They were the ones He spoke to directly. If they knew Him so well and they kept losing faith in Him, how much easier is it for us to lose it? We are only weak humans and He knows this, but He wants us so much that he needs to strengthen our rock foundation of faith by allowing us to be tempted in order that our faith is strengthened when we beat the temptation. I love beating the temptation in the name of Jesus. I love showing the power i get through Christ Jesus to the temptation. I hope this made sense lol I'm not real good at explaining things sometimes. God bless you and guide you through everything He allows you to go through. Amen
 
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Well God always gives an escape from temptation. If the people you are around aint Christians i recommend you keepin away from them unless u have to be around them basically. If you do, then you just Gotta cry to God to keep your fire for him strong and strength to continue this race.
 
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Sweetheart one of the joys of being a child of God is those test in life that make us more like him. A Christians walk is anything but easy, but is anything worth having ever easy? Thank God for your hardships and ask that he please help you to learn the lesson that he has for you so that you can move on to the next one. I have learned as a child of the Lord that life is beautiful no matter how hard it gets. The Lord will use this time to strengthen your trust in Him. Have faith that he knows exactly what is going on with you and your life and that he has a plan. He says that his ways are higher then ours and that we cant understand them...well take that as 100% fact and don't try to understand but just have faith that he loves you and is with you and for you and that he never leaves nor forsakes you. Expect life to be filled with trials and test because life on earth is the practice before the game.
 

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Ok first we reap what we sow. We all have done wrong and we reap of the evil we do even after asking for forgiveness. Not to say you are going to get it for everything you done wrong. Plus the trying of our faith makes us stronger. We are not tested for God to know where we are, we are tested to see how far away from Him we are and now much we need him. The more you are tested and pass the stronger you get. With that being said make sure your suffering is for the gospel and not of you disobedience
 
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IDK88

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Reap what you sow? See Im confused. The Bible says do not seek vengeance...is that not seeking vengeance ?If some one steals from me the Bible teaches me to forgive them and let it go b/c Im gonna be blessed. Yet the Bible also says Ill reap what I sow, meaning Im not trully forgiven because vengeance will sought on me??? God's plan for me???? Since we are all obviously not going to Heaven, how do I know that God's plan isnt for me to go to hell? If Im going to hell any way then why have me out here struggling to be a better Christian if my destiny is already written??? I know how to do what yall are suggesting, thats what Ive been doing, I know how to read the Bible, what I dont know is why??!!! I know how to comfort my self when im struggling, what I want to know is WHY am I struggling in the first place?? Follow the devil, you sin and you will pay...follow God, you sin and you will pay forgiven or not....confused...
 
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We strive for grace all our lives. God gave us free will because He loved us. If he wanted us to just be robots and be forced to love Him, He could've and would've. But with free will comes choice. either love Him or reject Him. We are humans. We are surrounded by temptation every day of our lives IDK88 and He knows we will fall sometimes. That's where we see His true mercy for us. Our destiny is NOT already written. We write our own destiny. We are damned to hell when we dont repent. When we say sorry for falling and get back up, we're in the state of grace again. As long as we dont say sorry with every intention to commit the same sin. He doesn't wait to " make us pay ", He waits to recieve us back. To forgive us. To welcome us back with open arms. I hope this helps. The evil one is the one who strives his whole existance to punish us. God gave us His only Son that we may be saved. MAY be saved. The final decision is ours through our free will that He most graciously gave us. In the end its up to us. simple as that.
 
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Thank you all for the feedback
 
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Thank you for taking the time to voice your troubles, granting us the precious opportunity of serving you in your time of struggle. There are not many who are transparent -- possibly because they fear being ridiculed, but it's difficult to receive help without making ourselves vulnerable to some degree.

To begin, you mentioned God's call for His people to be a forgiving people, not taking vengeance. Yes, we are called to be "imitators of God," who causes "His sun to rise on the evil and the good." This alone, with meditation, should grant us a glimpse of His generosity, but there is more to be said about His nature as we proceed to your question.

You asked, "Why do I feel like I'm paying for past sins that I've done when clearly I'm trying to change?" And earlier you made it known that if you've done wrong in your past, you've asked for forgiveness.
Friend, you know that "no temptation has overtaken you but such as is common to man." You may wisely ask why I label this a temptation? Because it tempts you to disbelieve God's word in 1 John 1:9, which says, "If we confess our sins, He is faithful and righteous to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness."
It's possible for a person to not feel like God has truly forgiven them after he/she confesses his/her sin to Him, but that doesn't nullify the promise; Fact 2 concerning God is 'He is incapable of lying' (Titus 1:2).

In addition, you cannot pay a price that Christ has already fully paid. Concerning our past sins, Paul says, God "made Him who knew no sin to be sin on our behalf..." Isaiah says "He was pierced through for our transgressions, He was crushed for our iniquities." [Notice, how it says "He" rather than "you". For instance, it does not say "Whittney was pierced through for her transgressions, she was crushed for her iniquities." No, the text puts the Savior in your place.] But note that Isaiah doesn't stop there, but also records in verse 11, "As a result of the anguish of His soul, He will see it and be satisfied." (The Savior's sacrifice was enough to satisfy the sin-avenging God, creating the beautiful sunrise of Romans 8:1, "There is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus.")

The answers to your questions are not short, but require a tremendous amount of Scripture, so I'll let what I've already said suffice for now. (I don't want to overwhelm you.) If additional questions exist, please send me a private message, for the Scriptures shows certain things that could hinder a person from receiving/believing the truth as well. There are things which can impede ["impede" means to "delay or prevent"] your joy.
 
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