Will the dead have a chance to meet Jesus?

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WomanLovesTX

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What did Jesus do even when He had not technically risen from the dead? Did He not descend into the earth and lead those who were disobedient in the days of Noah captive showing us that He rules those under the earth and therefore those once dead people who did not believe in Him when they died? That scripture 1 Peter 3:18-20 says “For Christ also once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that He might bring us to God, indeed being put to death in the flesh, but made alive in the Spirit; in which also He went and preached to the spirits in prison, to disobeying ones, when once the long-suffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was being prepared (in which a few, that is, eight souls were saved through water)”

He did it then, so He will do it again or He continues to do it? Do you think the dead that died not knowing Jesus or accepting Jesus before they died will have a chance to meet Him and have eternal salvation?

John 14:6 tells us that no man comes to the Father except through Jesus. “Jesus said to him, I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life; no one comes to the Father but by Me.
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There is no other way to come to the Father but through Jesus and by believing what He has done for all mankind.


Phillipians 2:9-11 says “Therefore God has highly exalted Him, and has given Him a name which is above every name, that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of heavenly ones, and of earthly ones, and of ones under the earth; and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. So where is the glory of God the Father if people under the earth don’t somehow confess Jesus as Lord, which can only be done by the Holy Spirit according to 1 Corinthians 12:3 “Therefore I make known to you that no one speaking by the Spirit of God says Jesus is a curse, and that no one can say that Jesus is Lord, but by the Holy Spirit. “



According to these scriptures the dead will have a chance to meet Jesus and He will be Lord of all, that is all will have the Holy Spirit. Does God force the Holy Spirit upon us or do we invite the Holy Spirit in? Will the dead meet Jesus because they want to or because they are forced to? What does the scriptures say? To be sent to a literal hades/sheoul/hell/grave that is burning with fire and torments flesh forever or eternity seems to contradict the above scriptures. So which is allegory or symbolic and which isn't?


 
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Abiding

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Hello WomanLovesTX,

The context here is the suffering the saints are going through.

The spirits are not the spirits of men as In Hebrews 12:23 but as in angels or demons. Which are spirits. The prison is the domain they are in.

What He preached to them was as they feared in Matthew 8:29 And, behold, they cried out , saying, Jesus, thou Son of God?
art thou come hither to torment us before the time?

They are in this domain or prison for what they did in Noahs time Jude 6 And the Angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own
habitation, He hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgement of the great day.

...1Peter3:20..which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsufferring of God waited in the days of Noah..................heres the point.....

......verse 21b,22...by the ressurrection of Jesus Christ; who is gone into heaven, and is on the right hand of God; angels and authorities and powers being made subject to Him.

In other words He preached His victory to the spirits in prison now all they have to look forward to is a future destruction at the end of the age.(the great day)
This was to encourage the saints that as Christ has victory. So will they in their sufferring. So this was not good news, it was bad news! Good for the saints...bad for the spirits in prison.

This was not when He was in the grave...it says "made alive by the Spirit" which certianly was after the ressurrection...and says "went" most likely
His assention.

It is appointed once for man to die...then judgement...no place in the bible does it teach a second chance.
 
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Hello WomanLovesTX,

The context here is the suffering the saints are going through.

The spirits are not the spirits of men as In Hebrews 12:23 but as in angels or demons. Which are spirits. The prison is the domain they are in.

What He preached to them was as they feared in Matthew 8:29 And, behold, they cried out , saying, Jesus, thou Son of God?
art thou come hither to torment us before the time?

They are in this domain or prison for what they did in Noahs time Jude 6 And the Angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own
habitation, He hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgement of the great day.

...1Peter3:20..which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsufferring of God waited in the days of Noah..................heres the point.....

......verse 21b,22...by the ressurrection of Jesus Christ; who is gone into heaven, and is on the right hand of God; angels and authorities and powers being made subject to Him.

In other words He preached His victory to the spirits in prison now all they have to look forward to is a future destruction at the end of the age.(the great day)
This was to encourage the saints that as Christ has victory. So will they in their sufferring. So this was not good news, it was bad news! Good for the saints...bad for the spirits in prison.

This was not when He was in the grave...it says "made alive by the Spirit" which certianly was after the ressurrection...and says "went" most likely
His assention.

It is appointed once for man to die...then judgement...no place in the bible does it teach a second chance.

Your explaination was exactly according to the truth. Well stated. God bless.
 

zone

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hi WLTx
everyone will stand before the Throne.
and everyone will bend the knee and confess that Jesus Christ is Lord...even those that go away into destruction.
i don't wish that fate for anyone.
we have to preach the gospel....it's urgent.
 
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Abiding

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Your other questions. Those who didnt hear about Jesus heard a message and its always been by grace through faith. The bible doest say
it in a verse but the coats of skins after adam and eve sinned implies a redemption plan. Cain and Able were giving firstfruit sacrifices yet with no other information
we see a system already similiar to the sacrifices in the tabernacle. We have lots of info we glean in the rest of Genesis in the contexts and in the
meanings of the names given in the geneologies. Noah taking sacrifical animals on the ark. He came from a line of preachers. So we have both a
gospel and sacrifical system before the flood. Noah found grace in God and came off the ark and built an alter and made sacrifices. All the nations that grew out of that had the gospel. And were saved by grace through faith. What im saying is that all will have had a chance. Remember the Lord said He would leave the 99 to get the lost sheep and that He never changes. Those with less less is expected and Ninivah was told to repent and they did so that was obedience in faith.
We are told that none will have an excuse, so if any perish it seems they were given a chance.

We are told to ask for the Holyspirit, but the indwelling spirit is in every believer. Jesus said if you obey Him He will send the comforter who will be your guide and comforter, alaso the Father and son will come and commune with you. No He wont force Himself.

zone answered the next one and i dont understand the last one. But the last time i studied on Hell it was still there and was eternal.