1 peter 1:19

[garee]

This is one of those places in the bible that seems to be a stalemate because you have scripture on both sides of the issue. Jesus clearly said that those who would get a new body would not marry or be given in marriage and would be equal to the angels. This has led to the assumption that angels of all ages and all types could never have sex, which of course contradicts the story in Genesis and Jude and Peter, where angels had sex with human women and were also punished by God for doing so. The story about SOME angels having had sex with women is so clear that I cannot in good conscience pretend that it does not say that. My opinion, in the past SOME angels were capable of having sex and did so with women even having children.

Can't procreate if a person does not have the tools do it.Angels as spirit messengers have no form no DNA made up from the dust also things are created after their own kind.

That section in Genesis 6 is simply teaches the believers(sons of God) were being unevenly-yoked with unbelievers. (daughters of men ).

 

[Stunnedbygrace]

JohnnyB, amstar, Garee and samuel, those were all very good observations. I'll be thinking on this. (Even if I don't want to), because my mind doesn't ever stop, even in sleep it would seem...

 

[FrankLee]

Psalm 131:1 KJVS
Lord , my heart is not haughty, nor mine eyes lofty: neither do I exercise myself in great matters, or in things too high for me.

Let everything be done for edification...

 

[Desertsrose]

And we are guilty of our sins against God too, but have the good luck of hearing the gospel, having our sins forgiven and receiving the Holy Spirit. They are held to their sins without the benefit of the good news so they got the raw deal. So 1 peter says (in my opinion) that He went and proclaimed it to those from the ancient world who were in prison. This seems wonderfully fair to me and it resolves my problems with some doctrine that seems to me to connote that they are going to hell for not obeying the law, even though no one can keep it, and we are going to heaven because we were born at a better time in which we heard the good news that saves us from our sin. I mean...it's how my mind thinks about it - that it was not fair, that the deck was stacked against them. So 1 peter deals with it.

Some doctrine just seems a little off to me. Or maybe it isn't really doctrine but just what I've heard men say in trying to resolve it. It doesn't quite sit right.

Hi Stunned,

I know sometimes we all use words incorrectly sometimes without even thinking about it, but I would think you meant to call the pre-planned work of redemption a blessing rather than luck. Those living in the new covenant are blessed and not lucky.

I'm not sure that this generation was lost to their sins. We know that Noah was a righteous man and the bible calls him a preacher. I would think that this generation had the opportunity of God's grace as much as Noah did. In Gen 4:26 we read that men began to call on the name of the Lord.

As far as keeping the law, Paul said he kept the law blamelessly. The rich young ruler kept it as well. I'm sure many were able to keep the law. But it wasn't enough to just follow the law - it's a bunch of rules without faith. It's following the law without a relationship with God. It's a rightousness of the Law and not a righteousness based on faith in God which is what God requires.

Abraham obeyed all of God's laws during his relationship with God. Sojourn in this land and I will be with you and bless you, for to you and to your descendants I will give all these lands, and I will establish the oath which I swore to your father Abraham. I will multiply your descendants as the stars of heaven, and will give your descendants all these lands; and by your descendants all the nations of the earth shall be blessed; because Abraham obeyed Me and kept My charge, My commandments, My statutes and My laws.” Genesis 26:3-5 I can't answer this question in 1 Peter, but it's got me curious so I think I'll go and do some commentary reading.